Buckle up for the dumpster fire that was my trip to England.
Firstly, my issues were not with England in general or the people, they were for the most part lovely and the places and things we saw great. Two minor problems are: There are no bins anywhere...and the toilets are as sparse (and occasionally pay toilets)...and London is ENTIRELY too busy, and the heatwave building back up did not help. But I digress.
So, the trip started inauspiciously by me (in my haste to help the kids pack up their stuff on the plane as we landed at Heathrow) leaving my iPad on the plane. I didn't notice this until we were on the bus halfway to Cheltenham...checked FindMy and saw it sitting in Heathrow Terminal 2...so that was not good.
The FlixBus to Cheltenham from Heathrow has set seat assignments...but some sketchy dude was sitting in one of ours at the back so my wife and the kids sat on the other side of empty seats to not cause issues, as the bus was not full. There was a young (turned out to be French couple) in the seats in front of my wife and kids and my son (ADHD/Jet Lag made him jig his leg and it was lightly tapping her seat. Instead of being a human and being like "Oh hey can you stop tapping my seat?" to him, she turned around and snapped "HEY. STOP KICING THE SEAT" and he was like "I wasn't kicking it" and she was like "You were and it's fuckign annoying" my wife then saying "Okay okay lady, sorry" and then my kids were silent as ghosts for the rest of the 2hr drive and yet when we got off in Cheltenham the woman STILL gave my wife the daggers....like we apologized and they were quiet and largely immobile for the next two hours...the fuck else do you want lady? Ugh, the French.
The family we stayed with were Canadian's we knew from our town (they moved to England a year+ ago; he's military and gets posted) and we only knew them mildly well, but we thought enough.NOPE. They are deeply strange, and their kids are strange as well. Their son (who is 5) is maybe the whiniest and unchecked instigator I've ever encountered....and every time he and my son had an interaction of words (be it over a toy, or how my son takes everything literally and doesn't do make believe) their kid IMMEDIATELY threw hands, and we just got done telling our son after the attack at camp that he was allowed to defend himself, so he did and every single time these parents called MY son out and not their for throwing hands...and when that was brought up their excuse was "Well, he's five"...I secretly told my son that I supported him and watched that kid reach for violence every time he got upset and that it wasn't my kids fault. I reassured him constantly, but I basically had to be around to play referee between their son and my son unless I was willing to let the other da scold my son....which I was not. Their kids are Screen-starved. The family chose not to move their TV (the wife doesn't watch stuff, only the husband), and the kids tablet/screen time was for like a half hour in the morning and a half hour at night...we let out kids (provided they have been out doing stuff for the day) watch in the morning and night before bed for a much longer time...their daughter tried TWICE to "advise me" that my kids should have the same screen time rules as they have and I flatly was like "No, our rules work or us, thanks"....but both their kids are like little screen goblins who would sit at your shoulder or crowd over my kids when we were on our devices for any reason. The parents are strict on everything. My son is picky and didn't eat most of the food, and we bought hi things he would like to eat and when he didn't finish it they would try to police him to finish it, and I had to tell them frequently that my son's ADHD meds make him not hungry during the day....then when he was hungry at night after the meds wore off they would be annoyed he was eating later at night and I had to explain REPEATEDLY why he was ravenous after that...and every time I threw out old food (Again, that I bought) that he didn't eat, I got dirty looks. Like yeah, it's wasted food but I'm not forcing my kid to eat. Also, I bought my son a big aero chocolate bar and he left it on the table and their son just grabbed a hunk and was eating it...and I'm like oh no, that's my sons (who was upset this other kid had eaten his treat) and the parents excuse was "Oh, well he didn't know it was _____s".....I'm sorry, does your kid just grab whatever random food is anywhere and eat it without asking whose it is or if he can have some?...It turns out the whole ass family does this. I did some grocery shops for everyone (to split on meals), but I also bought stuff for just me or just my kids (treats, crisps ect) and for the first few days I thought those things were safe to be out on the counter...NOPE...the whole family would just dive into whatever was there as if it was theirs. I took to hiding the treats in my luggage to prevent this. It's insane.
The rules in the house were next level and I felt like I was on eggshells the entire time by trying to make sure neither us nor our kids did anything to go against their house rules....but like they CONSTANTLY police the kids playing, and tell them not to do ______ and to include the 5 year old...but the 5 year old would (as 5 year olds do) kick off every 5 minutes over something or another and the other kids would get in trouble for not playing nice with him...and my son HATED him and didn't want to play with him (my son is 7.5 and not into make believe)...and the parents kept getting annoyed that my son was not playing with theirs...and no amount of explaining that their play styles were different helped.
We asked about transport up front and they said "don't worry, we have two EVs and solar panels and the CDN military pays for their ultities so it was technically all free"....but by about midweek they began to feel like they were put out by driving to the places we were going to....even when it was just the other dad and I in a 2.25hr (each way) trip to Portsmouth it felt like he was put out...and the kids had to be arranged in the cars to not fight (my son and their son could not be in the car together)...which was a task. The mom stopped her car once when my daughter was upset to tell her to be quiet and that she was acting like a 3-year old for crying (she's 10)....meanwhile her daughter who is also ten spent the entire week WHINING about everything. The mom was mean, the dad was aloof and WAY more nerdy than I am...to the point any conversation with him was boring as hell. They got into not one but two vocal domestic fights while we were there (slamming doors and shit) based around the dad (military; working) and the mom (not working, not searching for a job, but also not doing anything administratively or for the household)...he works all day and she doesn't do much of anything that's not for herself (she bikes and works out) so he has to scramble to order groceries and then make dinner...it's causing them a tonne of friction as they don't really seem to operate like a team tackling the home life, but rather two individuals who happen to have kids...she was put out a little by him wanting to go with me by ourselves to Portsmouth for the day as she would have the kids on her on....which feels weird for a mom to say/act like.
I wanted to leave by Day 2...I was willing to reserve hotel rooms for the remainder of the trip and eat that extra cost to get out of there. My wife talked me out of it and said we should make the best of it with this family.
They also didn't do "adult time" after the kids go to bed, you know with chat and drink and whatever...nope, they were in bed by 9PM each night and it was so strange.
The rest of the week was more of the same, and I could not wait to get out of there. The mom and the kids came other London with us on our last full day by train...and that made London even more difficult. She literally said out loud "Well, your DAUGHTER has been delight this trip" and smirked and looked away. Hey....fuck you lady. Taking pot shots at my 7.5 year old son because his ADHD makes him a bit of a handful and because your son doesn't know how to keep his hands to himself? Nah lady, you're an asshole.
I was not unhappy to see them go when they finally left Paddington to go back to Cheltenham Sunday afternoon. Our hotel by Heathrow was fine, nothing special, and the local buses were easy as heck to navigate.
It's given me not only a better appreciation of being home, but it makes my issues with my sister-in-law and her family seem quaint. I would spend a month with them before I'd ever think of seeing this other family again. Good riddance.
eDIT: Oh, but I DID get my iPad back and the local air Canada staff at Heathrow were AMAZINGLY helpful in helping me get it back the morning we left to come back home. So that was good.
This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 12 August 2026 - 12:32 PM
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