[Traveller]

Airports. Ugh.

Seven hours to get home, only three of which were spent actually flying. Those places seem to be designed to be the most uncomfortable places on earth in which to queue, and wait and queue some more.

Glad to be home, even if it did take all night. Everyone worn out and sleeping, apart from my boy, who doesn't want to sleep like normal people, and is now playing noisily with his castle, and me, because I need to keep an eye on the little man.

[Centzon Totochtin]

Just found out one of my friends I was close with at university has died suddenly. While we haven't caught up for ages since she lives overseas, she was someone who kept me going through some of the worst times of my life and I will always be grateful for that.

[QuickTidal]

Traveller, on 10 August 2015 - 09:52 AM, said:

Airports. Ugh.

Seven hours to get home, only three of which were spent actually flying. Those places seem to be designed to be the most uncomfortable places on earth in which to queue, and wait and queue some more.

You have my sympathy. In all my travels the worst airport for this HAS to be Venice, Italy. That airport sucked our will to live. There have been others that are bad, but the Venice airport actively hates humans.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 10 August 2015 - 01:16 PM

[Maark Abbott]

QuickTidal, on 10 August 2015 - 01:16 PM, said:

Traveller, on 10 August 2015 - 09:52 AM, said:

Airports. Ugh.

Seven hours to get home, only three of which were spent actually flying. Those places seem to be designed to be the most uncomfortable places on earth in which to queue, and wait and queue some more.

You have my sympathy. In all my travels the worst airport for this HAS to be Venice, Italy. That airport sucked our will to live. There have been others that are bad, but the Venice airport actively hates humans.

Considering the director of that airport is named Morbo*, this was to be expected.

*purest conjecture

[Maark Abbott]

One of my friends tried to top herself yesterday. Now I'm playing agony uncle and it's pretty heavy knowing that an ill-placed word could mean you've a life on your conscience. Just hoping she can pull through this.

[Abyss]

What do you mean, Japan ran out of whiskey?
How the fuck does an entire country run out of whiskey?????

[Nicodimas]

http://www.breakingn...-tianjin-china/
<21 Ton Explosion>

Chemical explosions. Always do a little prayer as my bros-- 1st due has a water treatment plant in it.

Then it makes you think about 1 KT <1000 ton tnt> nuke, or 1 MT Nuke <1000 Kilo-tons>....

then you know we designed this...
http://www.dailymail...s-app-that.html

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 12 August 2015 - 10:32 PM

[Maark Abbott]

Saw that. Glad it was quickly sourced as a chemical explosion because I don't like to think what China might do if it thought someone was bombing it.

[Nicodimas]

Wow..This Drone Footage puts things into perspective.

20k workers during the day.

http://www.zerohedge...cloud-explosion

A 21 Ton Bomb..basically.

[Andorion]

I am having some difficulty believing the 50 people death toll.

[Andorion]

King Briar, on 14 August 2015 - 01:59 AM, said:

Andorion, on 14 August 2015 - 01:21 AM, said:

I am having some difficulty believing the 50 people death toll.

Like in as it should be more or that their lies cause it's China?

The explosion was huge. Stuff was burnt upto 2 Km away. There is no way only 50 people died. The shockwave would have shattered enough glass to kill more all by itself. And apparently buildings collapsed. The Chinese state is withholding information

[Andorion]

King Briar, on 14 August 2015 - 02:27 AM, said:

No doubt it will rise. I imagine lots were just straight up incenarated based off videos. It was detected from space by Japanese satellite apparently and it set off quake machines.

Yeah I saw that satellite video. yesterday I was watching CNN and the reporter was standing beside a burnt out car and a wrecked building and he said he was 2 km (1.5 miles roughly I think) away from the blast. There must have been a wave of fire like in a nuclear blast.

[Traveller]

Children trouble.

My five year old daughter has started to become really difficult over the last couple of weeks - refusing to go to bed (it took 3 hours last night, effectively taking up my entire evening) shouting, throwing stuff if she gets put in her room for behaving badly, and generally kicking off for about an hour or more at a time.

Another problem is that both of my kids always go to me for everything. I've always been the one to get up in the night for them, and I reduced my work hours when my daughter was born so I've had more 'hometime' with them than my wife, but she's getting upset now as it's got to the stage where when she does go to put them to bed, read to them etc they just say 'I want daddy.'

Over the last few months ive been reading their bedtime story to them while my wife gets dinner sorted after we've both been at work, but now they both want stories at the same time, in different beds, and when I try to get one of them settled the other one starts yelling the house down.

So I feel stuck - have I been too nice? Is that possible with your kids? When they kick off, like hitting, shouting, throwing things or being rude, they get a sort of time-out in their room until they apologise. Rarely, if they do something immensely stupid/dangerous or foul they get a smack on the bum - not something I'd ever thought I'd do, as I don't believe it achieves anything and makes me feel horribly guilty afterwards, but sometimes feels necessary on that spur of the moment if you've just been on the receiving end of something that they know is unacceptable behaviour.

Obviously you want your kids to listen to you - to have a certain respect, but not because they fear being hit or something. But if they don't respond to any 'fair' discipline, and are verging on being totally out of control, how do you deal with it?

It's very tricky, as most of the occasions my daughter really kicks off, it's because she's tired or worryimg about school or something, so invariably the best way to deal with her is to scoop her up, give her a cuddle and wait however long it takes for her to calm down and sleep if it's late. But then I worry that I'm almost rewarding her for being awful!

We've got a star chart for rewards, which works when we stick to it; they know what is expected of them and what they are not supposed to do, but when I've spent three hours getting her settled after a 13 hour shift, my patience is getting short. And once they tell my wife 'I don't want you I want daddy' yet again, she buggers off downstairs and lets me get on with it. (She is currently working long hours, at a much higher grade than me, in a very stressful job, so I can see why she can't cope when she gets home; but still, I can't help thinking that she needs to divide everything a bit more equally so they don't ask for me all the time).

I'm at work now, and as we're both working today I had to take them to nursery/holiday club. They're usually ok going in, but on wednesday I had to peel them off my legs (they have a good day there when I've left) and today she wouldn't even get out of the car. I had to leave them both crying at the window, and even though they go in and have a nice day there, it makes me feel like crap having to leave them there.

Oh well it's quite cathartic writing it all down, anyway. I'm already thinking about how I'm going to get them settled tonight without a meltdown from one of them.

(I can understand why some kids have trouble at bedtime, when they play games until late, stay up too long, have tvs in their rooms, and eat god knows what before bed; but I get mine bathed, in their night things, downstairs for a drink and a last program before we go up for stories - it's been working up until now, anyway. Maybe now my boy has his own room and his own stories my daughter is feeling a bit sidelined.)

Bah, I just want to get them to sleep so I can stick Battlestar on and have some food dammit!

This post has been edited by Traveller: 14 August 2015 - 12:07 PM

[Gothos]

Traveller, on 14 August 2015 - 11:57 AM, said:

Children trouble.

My five year old daughter has started to become really difficult over the last couple of weeks - refusing to go to bed (it took 3 hours last night, effectively taking up my entire evening) shouting, throwing stuff if she gets put in her room for behaving badly, and generally kicking off for about an hour or more at a time.

Another problem is that both of my kids always go to me for everything. I've always been the one to get up in the night for them, and I reduced my work hours when my daughter was born so I've had more 'hometime' with them than my wife, but she's getting upset now as it's got to the stage where when she does go to put them to bed, read to them etc they just say 'I want daddy.'

Over the last few months ive been reading their bedtime story to them while my wife gets dinner sorted after we've both been at work, but now they both want stories at the same time, in different beds, and when I try to get one of them settled the other one starts yelling the house down.

So I feel stuck - have I been too nice? Is that possible with your kids? When they kick off, like hitting, shouting, throwing things or being rude, they get a sort of time-out in their room until they apologise. Rarely, if they do something immensely stupid/dangerous or foul they get a smack on the bum - not something I'd ever thought I'd do, as I don't believe it achieves anything and makes me feel horribly guilty afterwards, but sometimes feels necessary on that spur of the moment if you've just been on the receiving end of something that they know is unacceptable behaviour.

Obviously you want your kids to listen to you - to have a certain respect, but not because they fear being hit or something. But if they don't respond to any 'fair' discipline, and are verging on being totally out of control, how do you deal with it?

It's very tricky, as most of the occasions my daughter really kicks off, it's because she's tired or worryimg about school or something, so invariably the best way to deal with her is to scoop her up, give her a cuddle and wait however long it takes for her to calm down and sleep if it's late. But then I worry that I'm almost rewarding her for being awful!

We've got a star chart for rewards, which works when we stick to it; they know what is expected of them and what they are not supposed to do, but when I've spent three hours getting her settled after a 13 hour shift, my patience is getting short. And once they tell my wife 'I don't want you I want daddy' yet again, she buggers off downstairs and lets me get on with it. (She is currently working long hours, at a much higher grade than me, in a very stressful job, so I can see why she can't cope when she gets home; but still, I can't help thinking that she needs to divide everything a bit more equally so they don't ask for me all the time).

I'm at work now, and as we're both working today I had to take them to nursery/holiday club. They're usually ok going in, but on wednesday I had to peel them off my legs (they have a good day there when I've left) and today she wouldn't even get out of the car. I had to leave them both crying at the window, and even though they go in and have a nice day there, it makes me feel like crap having to leave them there.

Oh well it's quite cathartic writing it all down, anyway. I'm already thinking about how I'm going to get them settled tonight without a meltdown from one of them.

(I can understand why some kids have trouble at bedtime, when they play games until late, stay up too long, have tvs in their rooms, and eat god knows what before bed; but I get mine bathed, in their night things, downstairs for a drink and a last program before we go up for stories - it's been working up until now, anyway. Maybe now my boy has his own room and his own stories my daughter is feeling a bit sidelined.)

Bah, I just want to get them to sleep so I can stick Battlestar on and have some food dammit!

They can smell your fear.

[amphibian]

You gotta walk away when the tantrum starts. Keep listening to make sure they don't hurt themselves or break anything big.

Take anything easily breakable out of her room.

The goal here is to ride out the storm until she realizes it isn't going to get her extra affection and cuddling. At the same time, you gotta figure out better what's setting her off and reduce that before she kicks off.

It's going to stink sitting outside that room and hearing her holler, say awful things, and throw stuff. I suggest you read and/or catch up with your partner quietly during this time. Not tv, bc it's harder to listen for danger.

(Have taken care of entirely too many kids of exactly that age for many years. Thankfully, my youngest cousin is now seven, so the battles have shifted to an easier plane.)

This post has been edited by amphibian: 14 August 2015 - 03:10 PM

[QuickTidal]

Traveller, on 14 August 2015 - 11:57 AM, said:

Children trouble.

From experience with my many nieces and nephews (and one godchild), and a wife who works with the elderly.

Best piece of advice I was ever given...give them two options for everything you can and only two options. The idea of choice makes them think they are in control and they like that, and it lulls them to listen to you and not kick off.

Do you want to go to bed now, or in 15 minutes after a story?

Do you want a story, or do you want to play with *insert toy here* for 15 minutes?

Do you want bananas or apples for a snack?

As for two kids, it's best to do things together if you can manage it. My Nephew is nearly 7, Niece is nearly 5...but we still try to aim for a middle bedtime that is between the two when we babysit for my brother-in-law. They are never going to go to sleep when you want them to...so putting them both into bed at the same time with a story is the easiest. We then (usually) let the elder kid stay up a bit longer with another story...but not until the younger kid is asleep. It's a bit of trickery to get the younger child to sleep at or around their bedtime...while not making the older kid suffer with going to bed too early. It's must be an organized system, and is hard to do....but is possible. I've seen it....especially because my niece has been in a terrible 3s and 4s for two years now...and is about as much of a diva as a child can be.

The worst part is that one child affects the other child, so they can be horrible influences on one another.

I wish you luck. Don't give up hope. It sucks right now, but it will get better.

[Gnaw]

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full face keyboard smash.



I just found out that when my Dad and Mom bought this place in 94 they failed to notice that the neighbor owns 12 feet of the width of the driveway. And the line of 10 very pretty shade trees on the other side of garage. Oh. And 1.5 bays of the freaking garage.

[Slow Ben]

Gnaw, on 14 August 2015 - 08:21 PM, said:

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I just found out that when my Dad and Mom bought this place in 94 they failed to notice that the neighbor owns 12 feet of the width of the driveway. And the line of 10 very pretty shade trees on the other side of garage. Oh. And 1.5 bays of the freaking garage.

Is there an easement of some kind or something?

[worry]

When my kid didn't want to go to bed I "gave in" and started playing with him, but really I was setting in motion my plan. A little playing, a few fun tosses up in the air, and finally a little "forgetting" the ceiling fan was on. BONK! After a few times he didn't want to stay up with me at all anymore! And once or twice, if the fan was on high, the knock would make him really sleepy or whatever immediately anyway. I'm no expert but it worked for us!

[amphibian]

Gnaw, on 14 August 2015 - 08:21 PM, said:

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I just found out that when my Dad and Mom bought this place in 94 they failed to notice that the neighbor owns 12 feet of the width of the driveway. And the line of 10 very pretty shade trees on the other side of garage. Oh. And 1.5 bays of the freaking garage.

Look into consulting an attorney, 1994 was 21 years ago and open usage of that land may mean your parents own that by adverse possession.

I'm not your lawyer, but that's something to really look into..