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Malazan Mafia 31 not my daughter's wedding

#741 User is offline   D'riss 

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 02:46 PM

Doublepost:

Korv, why don't you give us a post range to look for? 50 posts in which he does this 'thing' that shows which team he is on?

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 02:51 PM

View PostD'riss, on Oct 9 2008, 05:46 PM, said:

Doublepost:

Korv, why don't you give us a post range to look for? 50 posts in which he does this 'thing' that shows which team he is on?


No offense, you're smart enough to have seen it. This is not a "cold, cold, colder, warm, WARM!" thing, you don't see it, good.

Info.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 02:59 PM

You say no offense, and then compliment me using meta reasoning? Interesting. Or a typo.

Anyway, I dislike you claiming to have evidence you won't share, and expecting people to take your word for it.

Vote Korvalain

Most suspicious thing I have seen today, besides Path-Shaper saying someone was modkilled and then saying just kidding, but I can't vote for PS.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 03:02 PM

View PostKorvalain, on Oct 9 2008, 02:51 PM, said:

View PostD'riss, on Oct 9 2008, 05:46 PM, said:

Doublepost:

Korv, why don't you give us a post range to look for? 50 posts in which he does this 'thing' that shows which team he is on?


No offense, you're smart enough to have seen it. This is not a "cold, cold, colder, warm, WARM!" thing, you don't see it, good.

Info.


Ok I am here. Nice to see that Mockra decided to get involved in the game.

Korv, I read up on the pages that I missed and I have to say I didn't see wtf your talking about either. Now I have had a rough morning at work but I also like to consider myself a smart player. If you really want Barghast to be lynched you would stop being such a dick and at least point people in the right direction. Even if you are my Don I don't vote for people just cause. I need to have a decent defensible reason in case it blows back. So say that what you saw is inbetween pages ____ and ______ and let me go and look for myself. I really don't have time to reread the thread right now.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 03:05 PM

Ok I just reread my last post and it sounds like I am saying Korv is my Don and he is not. I was being hypothetical.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 03:19 PM

it is day 2 You have 5 hours lleft.

There are 17 players remaining: Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Korvalain, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Shadow, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn,Tellan,Tennes, Thyrllan

9 votes are needed for a lynch
8 votes are needed to go to night

4 vote for Mockra (Ruse, emurlahn, barghast, Tellan)
3 vote for Barghast (Gamelon, Korvalain, Shadow)
2 vote for Hood's Path (Kaschan, Omtose)
1 Vote Korvalain (D'riss)


7 players have not voted: Fener, Galain, Hood's Path, Liosan, Mockra, Tennes, Thyrllan

And about the modkill joke, you have no idea how dull you guys are at times, so I sometimes feel the need to throw out a joke to lighten the mood a bit. Deal with it. Its a game, supposed to be fun. Even for the mods.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 09 October 2008 - 03:34 PM

Back, for a few hours. Not much has changed. A read over, and the people I dont like the behaviour of most is still mockra/korvalain.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 03:58 PM

Egh. This game is going nowhere fast. Where are all the missing players? People like liosan and thyr have said nothing in this game so far. Looks like a lynchless day ahead, followed by a long night ;) come on people, play the damn game. Just under four and a half hours left..

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:02 PM

I really dont think a lynhcless day is a good idea at this point. If it comes to it, and we cant agree, maybe all going for a low poster of something. A lynchless day is just going to be like giving the Triad a free night to recruit, and the FM a kill. If we hit a lot poster it wipes out someone not contributing, at least, and there is less worry of lurkers. If we don't lynch, the people we suspect will still be here tommorow. Nothing will have changed, and we will just have more time to cover, pretty much the same ground.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:08 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on Oct 9 2008, 11:02 AM, said:

I really dont think a lynhcless day is a good idea at this point. If it comes to it, and we cant agree, maybe all going for a low poster of something. A lynchless day is just going to be like giving the Triad a free night to recruit, and the FM a kill. If we hit a lot poster it wipes out someone not contributing, at least, and there is less worry of lurkers. If we don't lynch, the people we suspect will still be here tommorow. Nothing will have changed, and we will just have more time to cover, pretty much the same ground.


I agree with this, although I worry about hitting someone in my family who is trying to lay low because they have a primo role.

Is HP still the lowest poster. (Don't have time to check running to get some food)

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:11 PM

Happy to switch to Korvalain, but only if it becomes apparent that Mockra's rather insubstantial defense is not going to get him lynched.
Maybe a vote or five will make Korv less of a pompous down-your-nose bastard and more of a helpful player... I mean, two people don't see the alignment thingie (make me the third, but I doubt Korv really cares about me, or expects me to agree with him ;)), and they're snubbed at, where, were I in his shoes, I'd have provided a postnumber or even a quote.

So, either he's in a rather tough spot due to work or something, or he is inventing stuff to put a stamp on Barghast (yet again Barghast... are you obsessed or something, Korv? there's more people than him!), or there is a slip of his own (side) closeby as well... I really can't imagine any other time when I (but hey, that's me) would refuse to quote/ refer to my evidence.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:20 PM

Poster Posts
Korvalain 102
Kaschan 86
Telas 71
Tellan 68
Meanas 57
Emurlahn 52
Omtose 48
Barghast 43
D'riss 28
Gamelon 27
Shadow 23
Path-Shaper 22
Fener 22
Ruse 21
Mockra 16
Tennes 15
Galain 14
Liosan 12
Thyrllan 12
Hood's Path 6

HP is still lowest, although Thyrllan, Liosan Galain, Tennes and Mockra, all haent contribted much.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:27 PM

View PostRuse, on Oct 9 2008, 07:11 PM, said:

Happy to switch to Korvalain, but only if it becomes apparent that Mockra's rather insubstantial defense is not going to get him lynched.
Maybe a vote or five will make Korv less of a pompous down-your-nose bastard and more of a helpful player... I mean, two people don't see the alignment thingie (make me the third, but I doubt Korv really cares about me, or expects me to agree with him ;)), and they're snubbed at, where, were I in his shoes, I'd have provided a postnumber or even a quote.

So, either he's in a rather tough spot due to work or something, or he is inventing stuff to put a stamp on Barghast (yet again Barghast... are you obsessed or something, Korv? there's more people than him!), or there is a slip of his own (side) closeby as well... I really can't imagine any other time when I (but hey, that's me) would refuse to quote/ refer to my evidence.


Now I'm an unhelpful bastard ;)

You are also neither on my team nor a Corleone, but sadly this has been obvious for a while (you did the same things Barghast did), and exposing players from your team is what I am trying to do at this point of the game, so don't judge me and call me name when what I'm doing is actually both WORKING and SMART in a merc game.

Your vote on Mockra, on the other hand, is either a mistake, or you misinform of to your motives, which is your choice I guess.

edit: for example, I thought until now that D'riss was in the same team I was. I am happy to now know better before we arrive close to the endgame.

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 09 October 2008 - 04:28 PM


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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:31 PM

Out of interest, how do you work out he's not on your team. Now maybe he seems anti corleone, but people dont know who's on each others team. Also, how can your team know to support you, when they don't know which team you're on. Unless you're a don, of course.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:37 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on Oct 9 2008, 07:31 PM, said:

Out of interest, how do you work out he's not on your team. Now maybe he seems anti corleone, but people dont know who's on each others team. Also, how can your team know to support you, when they don't know which team you're on. Unless you're a don, of course.


You actually want me to teach you, who I don't think is on my team, how to play better? You HAVE to be joking.

The same way we can actually make a case and lynch a killer, in a normal game, without waiting for a finder to reveal, we can know if someone is on our team or not in this game other than having the name on our PM as our "don"

It doesn't matter if people that vote for someone I vote for know I'm on their team or not. As long as I vote on someone they know is not on their team, I don't see the issue.

We have a dream situation right now where 2 teams know about a player, which allows players for both teams to put their votes while concealing their family, which is important in this game. OK, it might narrow the family to 2, but we can't all be in three teams forever. Sometimes you have to cut bridges and eliminate one, like Barghast did with the Corleones on day 1. One is in trouble when you eliminate 2, then you're either in the third team or a unteamed players, and the one who can intelligently vote for you are majority.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:41 PM

View PostKorvalain, on Oct 9 2008, 11:27 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Oct 9 2008, 07:11 PM, said:

Happy to switch to Korvalain, but only if it becomes apparent that Mockra's rather insubstantial defense is not going to get him lynched.
Maybe a vote or five will make Korv less of a pompous down-your-nose bastard and more of a helpful player... I mean, two people don't see the alignment thingie (make me the third, but I doubt Korv really cares about me, or expects me to agree with him ;) ), and they're snubbed at, where, were I in his shoes, I'd have provided a postnumber or even a quote.

So, either he's in a rather tough spot due to work or something, or he is inventing stuff to put a stamp on Barghast (yet again Barghast... are you obsessed or something, Korv? there's more people than him!), or there is a slip of his own (side) closeby as well... I really can't imagine any other time when I (but hey, that's me) would refuse to quote/ refer to my evidence.


Now I'm an unhelpful bastard ;)

You are also neither on my team nor a Corleone, but sadly this has been obvious for a while (you did the same things Barghast did), and exposing players from your team is what I am trying to do at this point of the game, so don't judge me and call me name when what I'm doing is actually both WORKING and SMART in a merc game.

Your vote on Mockra, on the other hand, is either a mistake, or you misinform of to your motives, which is your choice I guess.

edit: for example, I thought until now that D'riss was in the same team I was. I am happy to now know better before we arrive close to the endgame.


Oh I see. Since anyone that attacks you must not be on your team, you are therefore a don or a triad. Faulty reasoning, if you are trying to keep your role a secret. I stand by my vote, because you are not my Don.

Edit: Added the Since to make it make Sense.

This post has been edited by D'riss: 09 October 2008 - 04:43 PM


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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:47 PM

View PostD'riss, on Oct 9 2008, 07:41 PM, said:

Oh I see. Anyone that attacks you must not be on your team, you are therefore a don or a triad. Faulty reasoning, if you are trying to keep your role a secret. I stand by my vote, because you are not my Don.


I know I'm not your don. That also applies to 18 other players ;) As for me being don, sure, let's try to vig me again tonight. Maybe the first time you just all got blocked or something ;)


It's nothing about attacking me, but failing to understand why I attack Barghast.

Actually, I see 4 votes on Mockra, all for bulshitty reasons, and Mockra also voted Barghast. I think I see the problem, people. Not only Barghast is in the other team, but he's the don.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:49 PM

Well, personally, to me, it seems your just saying "He's obviously the one to vote for. The reasons are so obvious that im not going explain them, but dont hesitate to vote anyway. Oh, and by the way, I dont think lots of you are on my team, so im not going to explain, for that reason too. You havent explained why they know he's not on their team, at all.

Has it yet to occur to you that the majority of people in this game are NOT ON YOUR TEAM.

You are obviously in one team. You aren't saying. Neither has barghast. I dont really care what "information" people get from my vote. I vote for who I think is th bigges tthreat. Or who I think is not on my team. Since every single person is only on one team, then you can easily enough vote, and be obviously one of the other. Except, since we dont have much idea who's on our teams anyway, we can only try to figure it out. Maybe we're wrong. You just have to hope that whoever you vote isn't on your team. And why do you speak of the corleones as sperate to your family. I seem to remember you insisting that voting someone(barghast again?) off for not being corleone was good, and we should "level the playing field". That you thought he was FM was an "added bonus". FM and Triad are, to my mind, the biggest threats. Theoretically(not saying whether I support it or not), wiping out the corleones, would give an almost level playing field anyway. One clan would have a one person advantage. Yet we haven't found the FM/Triad yet, so it wouldnt be a majority. And the clan wouldnt even know who each other are. At the moment, my priority is finding the FM/Triad. I am becoming increasingly suspicious that you are one. Especially if you are denying being corleone, a family you seemed rather sympathetic with earlier.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:52 PM

View PostKorvalain, on Oct 9 2008, 05:47 PM, said:

View PostD'riss, on Oct 9 2008, 07:41 PM, said:

Oh I see. Anyone that attacks you must not be on your team, you are therefore a don or a triad. Faulty reasoning, if you are trying to keep your role a secret. I stand by my vote, because you are not my Don.


As for me being don, sure, let's try to vig me again tonight.



Did you say that someone tried to vig you last night? Any evidence for that at all? Or are you just throwing random shit around.
It wouldnt be the first time.
Most of the mockra votes, were rather good reasons. Lurking/Obviously symping you/possible fake symping.
Oh, and now you're defending him.
Surprise!

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:56 PM

In fact, you're being more suspicious to my mind now, and I really dont like your reasoning.
We only have a few hours.
As i've said I dont think no lynch is a good plan.
For me its a choice between mockra and korvalain.
It seems like we need to reach a consensus, and reasonably soon.
I am happy to go for either.
There are 7 of us on.
We should be able to reach a lynch.

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