Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread)
#701 Guest_D'riss_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:25 PM
wait a sec, that last part isn't true (or at least not entirely)... sorry.
will think on it.
will think on it.
#702 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:25 PM
Yeah galain. Its just im against lynching a silenced player. Also if you voted for Gam at this point, you would probably come under lots of suspicion, and it wouldnt get you very far, as lots of people have removed from him.
Your whole defence there however is wifom.
I can see why you made it, its just when I read it without knowing your faking views I found it rather inconsistent, and it looked like a desperate attempt. I see where you're coming from now though, as you've explained it to me.
Your whole defence there however is wifom.
I can see why you made it, its just when I read it without knowing your faking views I found it rather inconsistent, and it looked like a desperate attempt. I see where you're coming from now though, as you've explained it to me.
#703 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:26 PM
D said:
Now that is a VERY interesting thought...
Your concept could be applied every time an inno turns up on CF apart from a CI... and if UB is still alive, he could now pause for a day and play on your concept... pleading limited innocence for himself...
Not to mention, to enter true WIFOM-heaven, if you are UB, you just made yourself CI according to your theory for as long as you hold in your power...
Your concept could be applied every time an inno turns up on CF apart from a CI... and if UB is still alive, he could now pause for a day and play on your concept... pleading limited innocence for himself...
Not to mention, to enter true WIFOM-heaven, if you are UB, you just made yourself CI according to your theory for as long as you hold in your power...
I don't see how that makes me CI in any way, shape, or form
#704 Guest_Gamelon_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:29 PM
I am going home and to bed I will talk again later.
#705 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:29 PM
The other problem now is that UB could easily pause just so we lynch, if he knows telas isnt on his team. Its not as if they lose that much, like if BB skipped a nk. So that means we'd have to take it into account. If there is no silence tommorow, and even the day after I will look far more closely at it. Until then theres nothing we can do but wait and see. Because the whole case assumes no silence tommorow as well.
#706 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:29 PM
Kaschan;375624 said:
Yeah galain. Its just im against lynching a silenced player. Also if you voted for Gam at this point, you would probably come under lots of suspicion, and it wouldnt get you very far, as lots of people have removed from him.
Your whole defence there however is wifom.
I can see why you made it, its just when I read it without knowing your faking views I found it rather inconsistent, and it looked like a desperate attempt. I see where you're coming from now though, as you've explained it to me.
Your whole defence there however is wifom.
I can see why you made it, its just when I read it without knowing your faking views I found it rather inconsistent, and it looked like a desperate attempt. I see where you're coming from now though, as you've explained it to me.
yea I'm sorry I left the case open ended, leaving the last part to dawn on you guys. Read it again now knowing what I was thinking and you will see what I'm talking about.
#707 Guest_Omtose_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:29 PM
Galain;375243 said:
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The Dibs hit. This I have to bite my tongue over. As a player I have killed players for meta reasons(most of us have). Is this what just happened to Dibs? I WON"T post my feelings on this. But I will throw the possibility out there. What I don't understand is why you guys revealed your roles. I think doing that just put more heat on the rest of us. Why you ask? Because now BB can be some what sure your not the finders(His biggest threat). So thanks(sarcasm)
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The Dibs hit. This I have to bite my tongue over. As a player I have killed players for meta reasons(most of us have). Is this what just happened to Dibs? I WON"T post my feelings on this. But I will throw the possibility out there. What I don't understand is why you guys revealed your roles. I think doing that just put more heat on the rest of us. Why you ask? Because now BB can be some what sure your not the finders(His biggest threat). So thanks(sarcasm)
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DiBs was not hit over meta. He was not alt-guessed. Together Mockra and I decided that it would be better to kill early given the context of the game - we don't want BB taking over one of us with the vig power still intact. Tennes was the one we decided was the best bet for the reasons outlined in the post where I claimed vig.
The reveal as vigs was intended to put an end people speculating over why Tennes was killed and drawing false conclusions from that based on the assumption that Tennes was killed by BB.
He knows that we aren't the finders. He has no clue if there are finders or who they are. And I personally think his biggest threat in this game is the guard role. But whatever.
#708 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:31 PM
Kaschan;375628 said:
The other problem now is that UB could easily pause just so we lynch, if he knows telas isnt on his team. Its not as if they lose that much, like if BB skipped a nk. So that means we'd have to take it into account. If there is no silence tommorow, and even the day after I will look far more closely at it. Until then theres nothing we can do but wait and see. Because the whole case assumes no silence tommorow as well.
i Did preface my case with "weak ass"

#709 Guest_Omtose_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:31 PM
I'm doing post as I go.
I'm not going to read the Mechanics post for you.
Also, remove vote since I have no clue what the current state of the game is.
Fener;375242 said:
oh, and another thing that just occured to me that I don't recall being mentioned before.
@ Omtose and Mockra, our two viggs: You claim to have spent one of your kills on Tennes. How many do you have left?
@ Omtose and Mockra, our two viggs: You claim to have spent one of your kills on Tennes. How many do you have left?
I'm not going to read the Mechanics post for you.
Also, remove vote since I have no clue what the current state of the game is.
#710 Guest_D'riss_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:32 PM
@ Galain: aye, I can't tie it together myself either... still, if you can think of this... 
Creative thinking there - WIFOM, but I don't mind that

Creative thinking there - WIFOM, but I don't mind that

#711 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:35 PM
Well, you are right in your thing about making sure to get rid of the vig power before BB is hung. That happening was something I was rather afraid would happen.
The problem with the guard role is that, BB may hold off, and then the guard reveals, an inno is lynched, and BB knows who guard is.
Finders are more of a threat because they/he will know for CERTAIN that he is BB if a find is performed on him.
The problem with the guard role is that, BB may hold off, and then the guard reveals, an inno is lynched, and BB knows who guard is.
Finders are more of a threat because they/he will know for CERTAIN that he is BB if a find is performed on him.
#712 Guest_Serc_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:36 PM
Of course, now the UB, if still alive, can choose to not silence tomorrow, and Galain will either claim it proves Telas is a liar and the BB, or that he is being setup...
Bah upon this whole thing you just started Galain. Bah I say!
If you can come up with something else against someone fine, but after this whole thing, we cannot omgus you or telas tomorrow because UB or BB could just be screwing with us.
Bah upon this whole thing you just started Galain. Bah I say!
If you can come up with something else against someone fine, but after this whole thing, we cannot omgus you or telas tomorrow because UB or BB could just be screwing with us.
#713 Guest_Shadow_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:38 PM
OK, I am back again, and I have caught up, and want to say 1 thing, why are you all suddenly looking at the UB role. Sure it sucks we can be silenced, but UB is the one that we need to kill.
twice.
Having said that I think the drive-by vote was very questionable, but I also believe that the vote of self then unvote, when the heat was starting to disappate(sp?) was even worse. So I am going to leave my vote here, although I am gld that so many people are contributing, minus of course HP and Fener.
twice.
Having said that I think the drive-by vote was very questionable, but I also believe that the vote of self then unvote, when the heat was starting to disappate(sp?) was even worse. So I am going to leave my vote here, although I am gld that so many people are contributing, minus of course HP and Fener.
#714 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:38 PM
Hehe. I liked it the way it was.
Proving Telas=Galain could be rather different.
Proving Telas=Galain could be rather different.
#715 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:39 PM
Kaschan;375634 said:
Well, you are right in your thing about making sure to get rid of the vig power before BB is hung. That happening was something I was rather afraid would happen.
The problem with the guard role is that, BB may hold off, and then the guard reveals, an inno is lynched, and BB knows who guard is.
Finders are more of a threat because they/he will know for CERTAIN that he is BB if a find is performed on him.
The problem with the guard role is that, BB may hold off, and then the guard reveals, an inno is lynched, and BB knows who guard is.
Finders are more of a threat because they/he will know for CERTAIN that he is BB if a find is performed on him.
thats exactly what I was thinking when I said it before. I think one of the possible reasons there was no "other" NK was BB fishing for the guard.
#716 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:41 PM
I reckon the unvote was just correcting a mistake. He realized it was making him more suspious. Also, if before he didnt care about being lynched, he perhaps found out he could contribute more, or just that he realized forcing himself(if hes inno) to be lynched wasnt good for the team.
Or: He was just doing it to try and make people doubt etc, like I said earlier, and it seems to have worked. I still suspect him. But now I find myself more opposed to HP.
Or: He was just doing it to try and make people doubt etc, like I said earlier, and it seems to have worked. I still suspect him. But now I find myself more opposed to HP.
#717 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:42 PM
Gamelon;375596 said:
Cause some of us have to work when we are sick. I have worked through saminilla poisoning, food poisoning (not the same thing), and the flu. The only time that I don't work when I am sick is if I am too weak to get out of bed. This has happened a couple of times. I have thrown up at work several times. etc etc.

#718 Guest_D'riss_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:45 PM
Serc;375635 said:
Of course, now the UB, if still alive, can choose to not silence tomorrow, and Galain will either claim it proves Telas is a liar and the BB, or that he is being setup...
Bah upon this whole thing you just started Galain. Bah I say!
If you can come up with something else against someone fine, but after this whole thing, we cannot omgus you or telas tomorrow because UB or BB could just be screwing with us.
Bah upon this whole thing you just started Galain. Bah I say!
If you can come up with something else against someone fine, but after this whole thing, we cannot omgus you or telas tomorrow because UB or BB could just be screwing with us.
Agree... but that seems the sole effect.
Unless... Galain = UB and specifically set this up for today by silencing his partner Telas (and now passes on a message to try this if UB dies?) As you say, omgus on either of them seems impossible without ruling out the scum toying with us... so they'd then make it for another round of this game when Telas can be targeted by the action again...
This is too much WIFOM, I fear...
#719 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:45 PM
What does everyone think about HP?
#720 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:46 PM
Shadow;375636 said:
OK, I am back again, and I have caught up, and want to say 1 thing, why are you all suddenly looking at the UB role. Sure it sucks we can be silenced, but UB is the one that we need to kill.
twice.
Having said that I think the drive-by vote was very questionable, but I also believe that the vote of self then unvote, when the heat was starting to disappate(sp?) was even worse. So I am going to leave my vote here, although I am gld that so many people are contributing, minus of course HP and Fener.
twice.
Having said that I think the drive-by vote was very questionable, but I also believe that the vote of self then unvote, when the heat was starting to disappate(sp?) was even worse. So I am going to leave my vote here, although I am gld that so many people are contributing, minus of course HP and Fener.
Skimming the thread on your catching up? I started all this shite. go back a page or two:D