Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread)
#681 Guest_Serc_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 07:47 PM
I voted him because if he is going to say 'i defended myself' and not participate anymore, I would be fine with lynching him. I built the case on him and he freaked out, and then it seemed like he was emo/sulking.
That kind of person, once we hang BB once, is a great target, because everyone is going to be looking at high posters, and it will be very very had to tell if Gamelon's play style changes, because he might just 'be better'.
That kind of person, once we hang BB once, is a great target, because everyone is going to be looking at high posters, and it will be very very had to tell if Gamelon's play style changes, because he might just 'be better'.
#682 Guest_Serc_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 07:49 PM
Ahem, I meant 'very very hard to tell if the play style changes' in 681.
#683 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 07:52 PM
I am happy to wait and see if he defends himself, and what HP just did is suspicious as hell to me.
Once we hang BB once I reckon everyone will be looking at everyone. Really its back to day one. And telling if anyones posting style changes will be hard as hell.
Once we hang BB once I reckon everyone will be looking at everyone. Really its back to day one. And telling if anyones posting style changes will be hard as hell.
#684 Guest_Serc_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 07:54 PM
I know that. But do you know how much harder it is to tell if someone who was sick and now claims to not be sick compared to someone who has been posting and participating?
#685 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 07:54 PM
Ok OK OK! I have calmed the fuck down. sort of. My beef with mocra was not that they lynched. It was after they revealed "I" felt he was using the vig hit they have left as a club to persuade people with. "bullying" I didn't take that as jokes. if they were, my bad. That said moving on.
I refuse to vote for Gamelon. I don't think he's evil or roled. Just my feeling on his playing up to this point.
All the cases so far today are pretty much the same. Weak. "I know make your own" I will and it will be just as weak, if not weaker than the rest of yours.
My weak ass case
With the CF of yellow playing ruse it takes the meta out of what I'm using for my case. We have been told by PS that Ruse was Yellow. Now most of you have played a few games with yellow and know he is a good player. He would not just reveal that code like that. The games I have played with yellow he has played his hand very close to his chest. So why would he do that? I feel that yellow was UB and wanted to get that code reveal to BB, and the only way he could, was to do it in thread. So yellow throws that code reveal out and tries to play dumb. It worked for me right up to the point where the CF reveals who ruse. Now the CF comes up inno. Oh well maybe he just "screwed up" I don't buy it. I think he was UB. And with UB gone why do we have some one silenced?
vote telas
I think your BB Telas. I could be wrong. But I'm going with it.
I refuse to vote for Gamelon. I don't think he's evil or roled. Just my feeling on his playing up to this point.
All the cases so far today are pretty much the same. Weak. "I know make your own" I will and it will be just as weak, if not weaker than the rest of yours.
My weak ass case
With the CF of yellow playing ruse it takes the meta out of what I'm using for my case. We have been told by PS that Ruse was Yellow. Now most of you have played a few games with yellow and know he is a good player. He would not just reveal that code like that. The games I have played with yellow he has played his hand very close to his chest. So why would he do that? I feel that yellow was UB and wanted to get that code reveal to BB, and the only way he could, was to do it in thread. So yellow throws that code reveal out and tries to play dumb. It worked for me right up to the point where the CF reveals who ruse. Now the CF comes up inno. Oh well maybe he just "screwed up" I don't buy it. I think he was UB. And with UB gone why do we have some one silenced?
vote telas
I think your BB Telas. I could be wrong. But I'm going with it.
#686 Guest_Serc_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 07:57 PM
Really Galain? Really?
I didn't know you could do night actions when hung the day before. Yellow/Ruse was hung day 1. The UB had to have sent in night actions on night 1, for them to be active day 2.
Honestly, come on. At least figure out what might be possible when you make a case.
I didn't know you could do night actions when hung the day before. Yellow/Ruse was hung day 1. The UB had to have sent in night actions on night 1, for them to be active day 2.
Honestly, come on. At least figure out what might be possible when you make a case.
#687 Guest_Gamelon_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 07:57 PM
Mockra;375586 said:
Gamelon if you are sick...then why are you at work?
Cause some of us have to work when we are sick. I have worked through saminilla poisoning, food poisoning (not the same thing), and the flu. The only time that I don't work when I am sick is if I am too weak to get out of bed. This has happened a couple of times. I have thrown up at work several times over the years. If my fever reaches a dangerous level and I can't see then I will go home and perhaps not come into work. But I always work. Always.
Edit = Also I figure that my coworkers usually give me my whatever my illness is, so I go to work to return the favor.

#688 Guest_Liosan_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:02 PM
Ok Kaschan is this the post you are thinking about?
First he says Gamelon isn't scummy, then he votes for him? I mean wtf.
Hoods Path;375573 said:
Here again.
Gamelon doesn't strike me as scummy, although I have to admit his self vote is alarming. That he voted himself and gave a reason of feeling shitty can be seen as a way to try avert attention from the true bastard. Or he could be really feeling shit
Well, if he really is trying to get out of this game, then:
Vote Gamelon
Gamelon doesn't strike me as scummy, although I have to admit his self vote is alarming. That he voted himself and gave a reason of feeling shitty can be seen as a way to try avert attention from the true bastard. Or he could be really feeling shit

Vote Gamelon
First he says Gamelon isn't scummy, then he votes for him? I mean wtf.
#689 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:07 PM
Serc;375595 said:
Really Galain? Really?
I didn't know you could do night actions when hung the day before. Yellow/Ruse was hung day 1. The UB had to have sent in night actions on night 1, for them to be active day 2.
Honestly, come on. At least figure out what might be possible when you make a case.
I didn't know you could do night actions when hung the day before. Yellow/Ruse was hung day 1. The UB had to have sent in night actions on night 1, for them to be active day 2.
Honestly, come on. At least figure out what might be possible when you make a case.
Think it thru!!!!!!!!! there can't be anyone silenced if UB was lynched!!!!!!!soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Telas is faking!

#690 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:07 PM
Ruse cant have been UB.
We wouldnt have someone silenced. Hes the only one who can silence. If UB is killed at night he would still be silenced, but not at day.
You think that Ruse was UB, but Telas is silenced, and therefore BB. Ok, hes been throwing more accusations around, which is a bit suspicious, but now its day two, there's more to go on, so most people are making more cases etc.
I also disagree with lynching someone while they're silenced. I think thats its just trying to get an easy lynch when he cant defend himself. Thats how it seems to me. You seem just to be trying to get an easy lynch on anyone, and as he cant defend himself, hes a prime target.
The only time I reckon lynching someone silenced would be OK would be when most or at least some of the evidence came from before the player was silenced.
If you are so convinced he is BB, then at least you could wait until he can present a defence, or watch him after he is unsilenced, and if he keeps being suspicious then present a case.
Your case is weak and rifled with inconsistencies.
We wouldnt have someone silenced. Hes the only one who can silence. If UB is killed at night he would still be silenced, but not at day.
You think that Ruse was UB, but Telas is silenced, and therefore BB. Ok, hes been throwing more accusations around, which is a bit suspicious, but now its day two, there's more to go on, so most people are making more cases etc.
I also disagree with lynching someone while they're silenced. I think thats its just trying to get an easy lynch when he cant defend himself. Thats how it seems to me. You seem just to be trying to get an easy lynch on anyone, and as he cant defend himself, hes a prime target.
The only time I reckon lynching someone silenced would be OK would be when most or at least some of the evidence came from before the player was silenced.
If you are so convinced he is BB, then at least you could wait until he can present a defence, or watch him after he is unsilenced, and if he keeps being suspicious then present a case.
Your case is weak and rifled with inconsistencies.
#691 Guest_Serc_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:09 PM
Oh... you are claiming Telas is faking being silenced?
That is... interesting, but I agree with Kaschan that unless you have a lot more evidence, at the very least we can wait until when he HAS to be able to talk to us.
That is... interesting, but I agree with Kaschan that unless you have a lot more evidence, at the very least we can wait until when he HAS to be able to talk to us.
#692 Guest_Omtose_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:11 PM
22 hours since my last post, so just avoiding modkill for now. Considering that I've had only 7 hours sleep in the last two days it may take those two hours to catch up.
More when I do.
More when I do.
#693 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:11 PM
Kaschan;375604 said:
Ruse cant have been UB.
We wouldnt have someone silenced. Hes the only one who can silence. If UB is killed at night he would still be silenced, but not at day.
You think that Ruse was UB, but Telas is silenced, and therefore BB. Ok, hes been throwing more accusations around, which is a bit suspicious, but now its day two, there's more to go on, so most people are making more cases etc.
I also disagree with lynching someone while they're silenced. I think thats its just trying to get an easy lynch when he cant defend himself. Thats how it seems to me. You seem just to be trying to get an easy lynch on anyone, and as he cant defend himself, hes a prime target.
The only time I reckon lynching someone silenced would be OK would be when most or at least some of the evidence came from before the player was silenced.
If you are so convinced he is BB, then at least you could wait until he can present a defence, or watch him after he is unsilenced, and if he keeps being suspicious then present a case.
Your case is weak and rifled with inconsistencies.
We wouldnt have someone silenced. Hes the only one who can silence. If UB is killed at night he would still be silenced, but not at day.
You think that Ruse was UB, but Telas is silenced, and therefore BB. Ok, hes been throwing more accusations around, which is a bit suspicious, but now its day two, there's more to go on, so most people are making more cases etc.
I also disagree with lynching someone while they're silenced. I think thats its just trying to get an easy lynch when he cant defend himself. Thats how it seems to me. You seem just to be trying to get an easy lynch on anyone, and as he cant defend himself, hes a prime target.
The only time I reckon lynching someone silenced would be OK would be when most or at least some of the evidence came from before the player was silenced.
If you are so convinced he is BB, then at least you could wait until he can present a defence, or watch him after he is unsilenced, and if he keeps being suspicious then present a case.
Your case is weak and rifled with inconsistencies.
no it's not. It's weak, weak as hell but very plausable. If BB knows that UB is dead he can fake being silenced at least once. When we next lynch someone and the next day no one comes up silenced he can play at, that persn must have been UB.
#694 Guest_Liosan_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:13 PM
Interesting idea Galain, but I'm not sure I buy it. I mean, it's a pretty big leap, even taking into account the possible gains.
#695 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:15 PM
Serc;375606 said:
Oh... you are claiming Telas is faking being silenced?
That is... interesting, but I agree with Kaschan that unless you have a lot more evidence, at the very least we can wait until when he HAS to be able to talk to us.
That is... interesting, but I agree with Kaschan that unless you have a lot more evidence, at the very least we can wait until when he HAS to be able to talk to us.
I'm putting this out right nowso that When/If no one comes up silenced tomorrow, people will all ready know what I'm talking about. But I can see your point.
remove vote
#696 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:16 PM
Note when i posted this I hadnt seen that your case thought he was faking, as you said that when I cross posted with you.
Edit: If no one is silenced after this I will have a long think about it. As it would either mean you are right, UB is playing dead, or that wheover we lynch today was UB. Thats three options, so its a 1/3 chance you're right. If no one is silenced a few days after it comes down to 1/2. It would also depend on how suspicios whoever we lynch today is. Atm im not inclined to take action on something like this though.
Edit: If no one is silenced after this I will have a long think about it. As it would either mean you are right, UB is playing dead, or that wheover we lynch today was UB. Thats three options, so its a 1/3 chance you're right. If no one is silenced a few days after it comes down to 1/2. It would also depend on how suspicios whoever we lynch today is. Atm im not inclined to take action on something like this though.
#697 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:21 PM
Kaschan;375604 said:
Ruse cant have been UB.
We wouldnt have someone silenced. Hes the only one who can silence. If UB is killed at night he would still be silenced, but not at day.
You think that Ruse was UB, but Telas is silenced, and therefore BB. Ok, hes been throwing more accusations around, which is a bit suspicious, but now its day two, there's more to go on, so most people are making more cases etc.
I also disagree with lynching someone while they're silenced. I think thats its just trying to get an easy lynch when he cant defend himself. Thats how it seems to me. You seem just to be trying to get an easy lynch on anyone, and as he cant defend himself, hes a prime target.
The only time I reckon lynching someone silenced would be OK would be when most or at least some of the evidence came from before the player was silenced.
If you are so convinced he is BB, then at least you could wait until he can present a defence, or watch him after he is unsilenced, and if he keeps being suspicious then present a case.
Your case is weak and rifled with inconsistencies.
We wouldnt have someone silenced. Hes the only one who can silence. If UB is killed at night he would still be silenced, but not at day.
You think that Ruse was UB, but Telas is silenced, and therefore BB. Ok, hes been throwing more accusations around, which is a bit suspicious, but now its day two, there's more to go on, so most people are making more cases etc.
I also disagree with lynching someone while they're silenced. I think thats its just trying to get an easy lynch when he cant defend himself. Thats how it seems to me. You seem just to be trying to get an easy lynch on anyone, and as he cant defend himself, hes a prime target.
The only time I reckon lynching someone silenced would be OK would be when most or at least some of the evidence came from before the player was silenced.
If you are so convinced he is BB, then at least you could wait until he can present a defence, or watch him after he is unsilenced, and if he keeps being suspicious then present a case.
Your case is weak and rifled with inconsistencies.
If that were true I would have voted for Gam. The person being silenced is the hardest target. No one will vote for him. I voted because I made the case. I think if you make a case you need to try to back it up with a vote. I removed it so you people can wait to see what he has to say when he can type again.
#698 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:22 PM
Liosan;375599 said:
Ok Kaschan is this the post you are thinking about?
First he says Gamelon isn't scummy, then he votes for him? I mean wtf.
First he says Gamelon isn't scummy, then he votes for him? I mean wtf.
Yeah thats basically it. Its a drive by with no justification, and it seems hes giving himself a way out if he comes under suspicion for it as well. Not only that but he has been low-posting as well, and has contributed little.
#699 Guest_D'riss_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:23 PM
Galain;375609 said:
no it's not. It's weak, weak as hell but very plausable. If BB knows that UB is dead he can fake being silenced at least once. When we next lynch someone and the next day no one comes up silenced he can play at, that persn must have been UB.
Now that is a VERY interesting thought...
Your concept could be applied every time an inno turns up on CF apart from a CI... and if UB is still alive, he could now pause for a day and play on your concept... pleading limited innocence for himself...
Not to mention, to enter true WIFOM-heaven, if you are UB, you just made yourself CI according to your theory for as long as you hold in your power...
#700 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:24 PM
Kaschan;375613 said:
Note when i posted this I hadnt seen that your case thought he was faking, as you said that when I cross posted with you.
Edit: If no one is silenced after this I will have a long think about it. As it would either mean you are right, UB is playing dead, or that wheover we lynch today was UB. Thats three options, so its a 1/3 chance you're right. If no one is silenced a few days after it comes down to 1/2. It would also depend on how suspicios whoever we lynch today is. Atm im not inclined to take action on something like this though.
Edit: If no one is silenced after this I will have a long think about it. As it would either mean you are right, UB is playing dead, or that wheover we lynch today was UB. Thats three options, so its a 1/3 chance you're right. If no one is silenced a few days after it comes down to 1/2. It would also depend on how suspicios whoever we lynch today is. Atm im not inclined to take action on something like this though.
the only real substance to my case is yellow as a player. Smart player.