[Dagger]

Aptorian;360386 said:

While I don't think Oldmans acting deserves more attention than ledgers, the Joker is amazing, I would actually agree that Oldman did a very good job.

When I stop thinking about a character in a film as an actor I think the actor is doing a good job. That was the case when I watched Gordon in the Dark Knight.

Of course one could argue that it was all about that moustache... Damn it's sexy!

I guess I didn't state this correctly. I don't think Oldman deserves more attention than Ledger. Ledger is what drives the movie. I just think that Oldman is not getting enough notice for what is a very seamless performance. As Apt points out above, we totally forget we're seeing anyone other than Jim Gordon.

I love Ledger's little grace note of having the Joker moving his tongue around in his mouth, like he's constantly worrying those scars from the inside.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Yeah, that was a small thing that helped sell the character for me. Also, it made him seem like a creepy old man who no longer notices what his tongue is doing.

[Illuyankas]

The Batvoice made me cringe. Especially the combat pants line.

[Obdigore]

Think that whole copycat storyline was a shot at V for Vendetta?

[polishgenius]

I doubt it - it was an idea around way before the 'V' film. I don't recall much about copycats in the comic.

[Abyss]

Saw it. Likes a LOT. Oldman's mustache wasn't nearly big and fuzzy enuf.

The Bat-Voice was somewhat silly and at times incomprehensible.
Ledger was great. Pro'ly not Oscar worthy but worth a nomination.
The visual effects for Eckhart's Two-Face also meritted a nomination - holy sh!t, the way the eyeball moved was perfect.
Still, that mustache should have been WAY bigger and WAY WAY fuzzier.

- Abyss, ....what?

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Abyss;360790 said:

Still, that mustache should have been WAY bigger and WAY WAY fuzzier.

Abyss likes mustaches big enough to ride.

[Abyss]

Raymond Luxury Yacht;360924 said:

Abyss likes mustaches big enough to ride.

Oldman's big fuzzy mustache was the high point of BATMAN BEGINS and your thinly veiled insinuations regarding my preferences cannot detract from this fact.

- Abyss, bets RLY has a soul patch...

[Illuyankas]

I see I'm not the only one who had problems with the Batvoice.

[Dagger]

"Oooh, excuse. I'd like to drive"

For some reason that line is going through my head today.

[Folken]

Well a few people had a problem with the bat voice...I found it a bit of a pain sometimes myself but its just a minor annoyance. The Begins voice was better as it wasn't so harsh

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Abyss;361277 said:

Oldman's big fuzzy mustache was the high point of BATMAN BEGINS and your thinly veiled insinuations regarding my preferences cannot detract from this fact.

- Abyss, bets RLY has a soul patch...

Nope. I grow facial hair like an adolescent girl. I couldn't sport a soul patch if I wanted to. I bet Abyss is yearded.

[Aptorian]

I don't understand peoples problem with the bat voice. I found it more disturbing that Batman appeared in an interogation room in full light, sort of ruined his "creature of the night" persona.

I think I would had liked to see batman using somekind of voicedistortion microphone or something to explain the voice.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Aptorian;361891 said:

I think I would had liked to see batman using somekind of voicedistortion microphone or something to explain the voice.

That would have been a good idea. They would have caught a lot of shit from the purists though.

[Yellow]

A major amount of shit.

Batman has done the interrogation thing before (Killing Joke). He's also ridden a horse (Dark Knight Returns), dressed up as a policeman (Long Halloween), a motorcyclist (Year One), and an old woman (Dark Knight Returns, again). He does whatever's necessary, even if he looks a dick.

So yeah, the interrogation scene didn't bother me at all. I thought it was very good, especially since the Joker owned it.

The voice thing is weird. The first film was much less pronounced (I hear that a large part of the voice in the second one was actually added post-production), but it seemed so much more realistic. The voice works with very short phrases (e.g. "Swear to me!") but if you give the guy three lines to say one after the other, then you start thinking he's just sounding like a penis.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Your penis sounds like the Batman?

[Yellow]

Batman wishes he sounds like my penis.

[stone monkey]

I saw this Tuesday night. I'm totally convinced that Batman Begins is a better film but I did enjoy it immensely nonetheless. Ledger's performance has been amazingly overhyped - he's good but not that good. The Bale Batvoice is a tad irritating; it's like he's trying too hard (something Batman should have no need to do imo)

And the film is nowhere near as clever as it thinks it is - it bashes you over the head with what it's trying to say, and the Joker's plots were utterly transparent. If you couldn't see what he was up to you weren't paying attention.

It was nice to see the Dark Knight Detective doing some actual detecting, rather than just running around hitting people and blowing shit up. I was also very impressed with the BatPod - particularly where it came from...

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Rumored bad guys for the next movie: Depp as the Riddler, Jolie as catwoman, Phillip Seymore Hoffman as the PEnguin

[Illuyankas]

Whatshisface the director has already said that the Penguin is too unrealistic. They have sort of shot themselves in the foot as far as remaining bad guys go.