[polishgenius]

Bane.
Banebanebanebanebane.

I'm not even that huge a fan of Bane (I don't think anyone really counts him among their favourites) but he'd fit.

Then again, I also want to see a side plot involving a reimagined Harley Quinn, one of the copycats turning out to be Dick Grayson (but not a kid), earning Bats' respect and going straight into Nightwing, possibly also Barbara Gordon getting crippled, and maybe Catwoman.

So I might not be the best judge.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Boo catwoman. Boo Angelina Jolie.

[Yellow]

They should stay away from Catwoman. The Penguin could not be done as well as Devito played him... and the riddler is shit.

Unfortunately, Batman has shitty villains, so the Riddler is the best of the rest. Depp would be interesting.

I think they should have left Two Face alive and gone with him.

[McLovin]

stone monkey;362712 said:

The Bale Batvoice is a tad irritating; it's like he's trying too hard

heehee. i turned to Mrs McLovin and said "shouldn't he be on the toilet right now?"

but seriously, it was good. IMO, they should've cut a bit out of the middle, because this movie is long, but it felt even longer. Even the opening bank heist could've been lost. And like SM I thought Ledger was good, but not that good.

[frookenhauer]

Trouble;355529 said:

It was good, but it wasn't that good.

Ledger was great, he was really the best thing the film had to offer. I love Bale, but I felt he added nothing new to the movie after Batman Begins. There were also quite a few cringe worthy lines in the film.

Maggie Gyllenhaal was rubbish. And ugly to boot.
It went far to long then what was needed.

There are a few other things that annoyed me, but you get my point. It was far from the second coming that you make it out to be. Not that I didn't love it of course, I just feel that you're going a bit over board in your praise.

Actually, I think you nailed all the faults of the movie in this one little post, but you're praise for the joker was so underdone as to be raw.

Heath Ledger as the Joker is simply the greatest villain I have ever seen in any movie, ever. I feel the need to watch the movie again just so I can savor his brilliance, but I'll try and watch it on Imax this time, like someone suggested. Now all I need to do is find someone who hasn't seen it already...

[Mezla PigDog]

Finally saw it yesterday. It was great but not quite GREAT. If Heath Ledger gets an Oscar for that performance it will only be because he's dead. Not to say it wasn't good but I don't think his part of the plot gave him that much to work with once he'd sold us the anarchic clown (loved the "I'm going to make this pencil disappear" bit). My main disappointment was the plot. I'd read a few reviews saying that it doesn't patronise the audience but I thought it was quite shallow really. It was also slightly too long (despite on the walk to the cinema me saying to Mr PigDog "the longer the better as far as I'm concerned"). A giant fatty came and shoe horned herself into the seat next to me just before it started, so perhaps my discomfort added to my fidgeting but I found myself looking at my watch either side of the big action sequence on the roads.

Also, that's about the 5th film this year that I've done a massive guffaw in a packed cinema only to find nobody else laughing!! The bit where Alfred says something about the Russian for "apply your own bloody suncream".

EDIT ~ And after reading through the whole thread, re Ledger's previous performances. The best things I've seen him in before this are Brokeback Mountain and Monster's Ball (the one Halle Berry won an Oscar for I think). He's supposed to be great in Candy, but I've not seen that. I think he might get an Oscar for this because his career was leading up to one with those performances.

I don't think his performance was that legendary. I think it's quite exciting considering the last 10-20 years of relatively bland movies in terms of characters, but over entire movie history, people used to do the crazies just as well.

[Bauchelain the Evil]

polishgenius;363587 said:

Bane.
Banebanebanebanebane.

I'm not even that huge a fan of Bane (I don't think anyone really counts him among their favourites) but he'd fit.

.

Yeah but then how much of the film would be about how Batman recovered from his injury?

[Illuyankas]

Barbara Gordon's still a kid, and Nolan and Bale have both said they'd walk if Robin is forced into the series in any form. They said nothing about Nightwing, though, so another non-lethal vigilante making his mark while the police chase Bats around might work.

I'd rather have someone hire Deadshot to hunt him down, though.

[Cause]

I liked the movie but I felt I was watching two movies in one. The second I caught the name harvey dent I quickly realized that they were setting up two face for the sequel. Well thats clever I thought. But no, they get the clown and the movie just kept going. Okay. So the bat still has to deal with spycho clown again and now two face is running around. No so lever I though.

First because as has been noted batmans villians are a little ridiculous. Yet two face could have worked. Heres a man whose villiany is grounded in the real world. He is not made from clay, he is not immortal and he is a human villian for the human batman. But they used him up already

Second the movie felt over. We dont need to battle the clown twice.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

In hindsight, since Ledger is dead, it's a good thing that Batman essentially had to fight him twice, since we aren't getting a sequel.

[Morgoth]

Is Robin really that bad?

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

As Batman's underage gay lover, yeah, he takes a little away from the whole dark and gritty badass image Batman has. There's probably a way it could be done well, bu I can't think of any.

[Illuyankas]

Can you see a way a young boy in green pants and bright clothing who fights crime with Batman could possibly fit into the Batman Begins series?

[polishgenius]

Bauchelain the Evil;364122 said:

Yeah but then how much of the film would be about how Batman recovered from his injury?

They don't have to transplant the plot of the comic.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

I want a Wolverine/Batman movie.

[Illuyankas]

Incidentally, during the film

Spoiler

the Batmobile lost a wheel, and at one point the Joker got away.

[Cold Iron]

Raymond Luxury Yacht;364249 said:

I want a Wolverine/Batman movie.

:eek:

"You... you're just like me, with more hair and less toys."
"I have these too."
"Impressive."
"You... you're just like me, with a bondage suit and a cape."
"I have a car."
"Impressive."
"Should we fight crazed criminals or renegade mutants?"
"Hmm..."
"Are there any mutants committing crimes?"
"Yes, Magneto."
"Does he rob banks?"
"What?"
"Can you get him to rob a Gotham City bank?"
"I... don't know where that is."
"Damn."
"Do you know any renegade mutants?"
"Do they have to be born mutant or can they be transformed by falling into a vat of chemicals?"
"I... think they need to be born mutant."
"I see."
"Well... it was nice meeting you anyway."
"Yeah, good luck and stuff."
"Wait."
"Yes?"
"We could..."
"What?"
"We could fight each other?"
"It's been done."
"What?"
"Yeah, and it wasn't all that successful, Alien Vs. Predator?"
"Oh yeah, that was shit."
"Ok, wanna just go bowling?"
"Sure."


*Drum roll*

Universal Pictures Presents:

Batman and Wolverine Go Bowling

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Cold Iron;364263 said:

:eek:

"You... you're just like me, with more hair and less toys."
"I have these too."
"Impressive."
"You... you're just like me, with a bondage suit and a cape."
"I have a car."
"Impressive."
"Should we fight crazed criminals or renegade mutants?"
"Hmm..."
"Are there any mutants committing crimes?"
"Yes, Magneto."
"Does he rob banks?"
"What?"
"Can you get him to rob a Gotham City bank?"
"I... don't know where that is."
"Damn."
"Do you know any renegade mutants?"
"Do they have to be born mutant or can they be transformed by falling into a vat of chemicals?"
"I... think they need to be born mutant."
"I see."
"Well... it was nice meeting you anyway."
"Yeah, good luck and stuff."
"Wait."
"Yes?"
"We could..."
"What?"
"We could fight each other?"
"It's been done."
"What?"
"Yeah, and it wasn't all that successful, Alien Vs. Predator?"
"Oh yeah, that was shit."
"Ok, wanna just go bowling?"
"Sure."


*Drum roll*

Universal Pictures Presents:

Batman and Wolverine Go Bowling

Sounds like an instant classic!

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Interesting speculative article about the future of DC comic movies.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Some perspective on the popularity of TDK...