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Shadowthrone and Laseen

#21 User is offline   Abalieno 

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 12:50 PM

I think I also figured out a shortcut.

What if Shadowthrone *thought* that he would succeed at turning Dujek against the empress, but then discovered that he was instead loyal to her? (like it kinda happened with Kalam, who refused to take Shadowthrone's side)

The assault to the Bridgeburners may as well be the empress proving she's willingly to use extreme measures. And when persuaded that Dujek wasn't against her, they used the idea for the con.
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 08:11 AM

A simple way of looking at it, but no less correct than any other. If you read on, in MOI you do get a futher insight (though it may be in HOC) into the shadowthrone/laseen relationship to indicate that he was not massively committed to revenge, for obvious reasons when you read it.

I hope you are carrying on with this series? Believe me, MOI is exceptional (my personal favourite).
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#23 User is offline   T'lan Coltaine 

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 09:29 PM

guys about sorry ....... your all thinking about her being used to get close to the empress but no ones thinking about any other possiblities with it. for some people who read on they will know that
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.... so why would they care about the empire?? secondly later on
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so they might just of wanted a wepon to use instead of doing anything with the emipre??



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Posted 24 February 2009 - 10:02 PM

You need to spoil that.

[*spoiler]text that you are hiding[*spoiler] Instead of asterisk in first, nothing, no space either, in second one there is a / before spoiler

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Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 04:16 AM

About the enfilade at Pale, isn't there also the matter of a certain curse afflicting a certain woman? Are the details a spoiler by this point?
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 04:18 AM

Yes, that is addressed in MoI.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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