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#21 User is offline   Nequam 

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 01:56 AM

Skywalker;341765 said:

And this is funny because?

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It's funny because some people like a movie soooo much, that they start following the religion that is in the movie; and then it turned itno a political squabble.

...then someone farted
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 06:57 AM

I think that there is a distinct lack of sense of humour here.
Incidently, I think organised religion is the most evil invention of mankind designed purely to keep the common man down. Suffer your miserable lives and you will be rewarded after death. All you have to do is bow down to your "betters" and support a parasitical priesthood who will intercede with whatever deity you hold to while living a life of obscene ease.
Christ, Mohammed, and all those those other "ascended", deeply spiritual teachers must be in a corner weeping about how their words have been twisted by men for their own ends.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 07:01 AM

Northpennines;342042 said:

I think that there is a distinct lack of sense of humour here.
Incidently, I think organised religion is the most evil invention of mankind designed purely to keep the common man down. Suffer your miserable lives and you will be rewarded after death. All you have to do is bow down to your "betters" and support a parasitical priesthood who will intercede with whatever deity you hold to while living a life of obscene ease.
Christ, Mohammed, and all those those other "ascended", deeply spiritual teachers must be in a corner weeping about how their words have been twisted by men for their own ends.


Ok, THERE'S the obligatory anti-religion rant.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 07:50 AM

I think it was in a Bill Baily stand up act where he said that most people in Britain when pushed, write down Jedi in the religion section of any application form.
He did that part really well

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 08:34 AM

It's all a joke. No one could possibly believe in a religion created by the same man who created Jar Jar Binks.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 09:01 AM

yeah i realised that but its a good joke.
I mean a person would have to be desperatly looking for anything to believe in would be the kinda person who would be part of the religion.
Oh and not to forget Star Wars GEEKS!!

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 09:16 AM

Even Star Wars geeks hate Jar Jar.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:26 AM

I don't have a problem with it. Who cares that it's from a movie, if it resonates with you then go for it.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 11:38 AM

well at least jedi religion won't send you straight to hell for 1422314141235 billion reasons
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 12:53 PM

ALL YOU NAYSAYERS

I find your lack of faith disturbing

:D (what? it had to be said at SOME point!)

Seriously though...

Personally I see nothing wrong with someone trying to 'stay on the light side', avoiding getting angry, too attached, too fearful, or aggressive, or meditating and trying to feel at one with the world. Jedi 'religion' may be pushing the conventional boundaries of what might be deemed sane, but hey, if it works for them that follow it, more power to them.

I will defend to my dying breath anyone's right to believe in the Force same as I will their right to believe that a man nailed to a wooden cross two thousand years ago is going to come back and save their souls; same as I would defend the worship of a half-man, half-ape that legend says carried a mountain to a battlefield and tried to swallow the sun (that is god Hanuman from hinduism btw... the religion I was born into).

Religions are subjective, and deeply personal. I am not beyond cracking a few jokes at their expense - so sorry if this is coming off all sanctimonious - but I wouldn't presume to go so far as to question their validity and/ or raison'd'etre or whatever. The question isn't whether a given religion is a serious thing or the truth or not - the question is are YOU sold on it or not?

In the case of Jedi-ism, I am not.

Now, the OP also talked about how the British government doesn't recognize Jedi-ism. Bah. Like I said, Religions are deeply personal. If I want to worship a vaccum cleaner, I will... and whether my government recognizes me as a vaccumist or not shouldn't matter to me.

After all what does government sanction get a religion? (Beyond officially incorporated charities to run scams with?)

Keep religion out of the public square I say... If anything I would ask the British government STOP recognizing all religions and get the stupid question out of the census.

Um... ok... nuff said for now.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 01:32 PM

Apparently with Australia's Census, I think the last one or the one before enough people put Jedi as their religion down on the Census and the Government did recocgnise it as a religion here.

I for one welcome anyone that wishes to become a jedi master alonside myself, I shall use the force to turn a democratic nation into a dictatorship..lol.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 03:05 PM

Well, that panned out well, didn't it. "Star Wars Geeks" as opposed to Malazan geeks :D best fantasy I've ever read - my original copies are dropping to bits and need replacing.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 03:06 PM

Is Pastafarianism recognized as a religion? This is not any different, really...

The President (2012) said:

Please proceed, Governor.

Chris Christie (2016) said:

There it is.

Elizabeth Warren (2020) said:

And no, I’m not talking about Donald Trump. I’m talking about Mayor Bloomberg.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 04:17 PM

Terez;342222 said:

Is Pastafarianism recognized as a religion? This is not any different, really...


Like in the name of Linguini, Spaghetti, and Riggatoni: Marinara Sauce?
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 04:31 PM

To me every religion if not hurthful can be worshipped because people can believe eveything thy want.
Saying this I still think it's a bit foolish.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 05:41 PM

Jedi'ism is too dualistic for me. It's cool otherwise though. When I saw The Empire Strikes Back when I was 11 it was a religious experience, I almost peed myself.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 05:45 PM

Pig Iron;342276 said:

Jedi'ism is too dualistic for me. It's cool otherwise though. When I saw The Empire Strikes Back when I was 11 it was a religious experience, I almost peed myself.


So you are saying you like a multi-faceted imaginary religion? Complex does that makes you.

On a side note: "imaginary religion", redundant repitition yes?
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 06:06 PM

You're all absolutely .............in crackers. I feel right at home. :D
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 06:15 PM

Northpennines;342290 said:

You're all absolutely .............in crackers. I feel right at home. :D


I'll take that compiliment in the manner it was given. I'd rather be ....in crackers than ....in a horrendous beastial woman. :D
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 07:08 PM

HoosierDaddy;342252 said:

Like in the name of Linguini, Spaghetti, and Riggatoni: Marinara Sauce?


No, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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