[CatKillerJoe]

I just finshed RG and very much enjoyed it. I am however confused a bit..at the end when the werrant was in the throne room with trull.. what exactly did he do? I mena i reread the whole chapter twice,but never found anything that showed what the errant did.

[Sinisdar Toste]

see by chance sirryn kanar, who was a bit of a coward and a prig ran from battle to seek out the chancellor and came upon trull who was kneeling over the body of his dead insane brother rhulad the emperor of a thousand deaths who was finally dead, and sirryn kanar - hating tiste edur as any self respecting patriotist and personal body guard of the chancellor would - killed trull sengar, killing off the last of the sengar line.


the errant did that, thats his power as a god, tipper of balances, the skewer of chance. theres a whole website designed to hate him.

[CatKillerJoe]

I don't think its right to hate him for being who he is. I mean its like hating oponn for pulling someone who you think he should have pulled. The errant is in my mind one of the most deeply desinged character as we see him go thru a wide range of emotinal states..from panic all the way to regret. Trulls death was tragic but not everyone gets to die in battle, or live out the rest of their lifes in peace. The pure hatred of that one small self imporatnat man was what took Trulls life.

[D'rek]

well afterwards the Errant hates even himself for doing it, so maybe it's justified? (not that I do). I wouldn't go so far as to say that Sirryn sneaking in, deciding to stab Trull and doing so was all part of the Errant's nudge, more likely it was just a simple small thing that could have saved alerted Trull or distracted Sirryn, that the Errant nudged. I would hazard to guess that the Errant's nudge was that Trull did not notice the owl that flew past as Sirryn was creeping up on him (as noted in Sirryn's POV).

[Lisheo]

I hate the Errant... I used to find him an admirable character in MT, when we knew nothing about him, but as his story goes on, we see him in some way responsible for killing TRULL SENGAR! He does nothing to save those who are dying in Lether, those who worship him, and even if he confesses to have no power, he can still trap an Elder God.

Lisheo, proud member of the LHTEC.

[eekwibble]

A said:

I would hazard to guess that the Errant's nudge was that Trull did not notice the owl that flew past as Sirryn was creeping up on him (as noted in Sirryn's POV).

Exactly that! There's a high chance that Trull's spidey sense would've been set off at the owl's shadow and the Errant stopped that happening.

Not sure why though. And the fact that he hates himself afterwards?

Pfffp!?! Don't do it then!!! :confused:

[Bauchelain the Evil]

He feels bad because he made Seren a widow and Trull child orphan of father. Remember his POV:Tipper of balance and now even widow maker.

[Zendog13]

True, but it did give QB a chance to send someone off to a veerrrrrrrryyyyy nasty place indeed...and not feel guilty about it eh?

[Optimus Prime]

The Errant is getting used to being relevant again outside of Lether....and I think he's going to find out that the Gods/Ascendants/Powerful Mortals are disinclined to play nice.

I'm glad we have a character like him though....at one point showing remorse and at other times just being a plain asshole.

[foolio]

the errant had a long term sexual relationship with his own son. I am not sure if anything could make that worse but the fact that his son was a total scumbag to boot does not help. I hope we never see him again. It seems silly that after what he did to Mael that Mael would leave him to keep screwing aroung with people and is it me or does it seem like all of his nudges all benifit the crippled god or evil characters?

[Hinter]

What did the Errant actually gain from Trull's death?

[Aptorian]

Amusement? Sense of satisfaction? He was compelled to do it because it's his aspect?

[Hinter]

Aptorian, on Nov 12 2008, 04:21 PM, said:

Amusement? Sense of satisfaction? He was compelled to do it because it's his aspect?

Hmmm, I keep forgetting that nothing is black or white in SE's universe.

[D'rek]

Because letting Trull live, letting Mael unleash his rage, and all the other things would have promoted ennui and stagnation... somehow

[Wampyry]

CatKillerJoe, on Jun 26 2008, 07:50 PM, said:

I just finshed RG and very much enjoyed it. I am however confused a bit..at the end when the werrant was in the throne room with trull.. what exactly did he do? I mena i reread the whole chapter twice,but never found anything that showed what the errant did.

I think it what the Errant didn't do that's important. He could have easily convinced his butt-fucking
son (don't know if he is a batter or catcher) to leave a guard or two over Rhuland's body. Or he
could have made some noise to alert Trull that he wasn't alone. Why he didn't do something is
unknown. Maybe he was afraid the Edur would return and proclaim Trull Emperor.

[Darts]

Maybe it has something to do with Trull's unborn child? What if Trull's influence on the child would have turned it in the wrong direction (from the errants point of view)?

I have another question about Trull's death... I seem to remember reading that Trull was the knight of shadow or something.. Would this make him an ascendant? And if it did, wouldn't it be possible for him to somehow return, sort of like Hedge did?

[D'rek]

Trull was represented by a Knight of Shadow card in Fiddler's game. However, not only was the card not one that T'amber had created, it's also not a position in the actual House of Shadow. Since when Decks are fielded or used in Fid's games the cards played do not necessarily represent that actions of the actual person holding a position in a house, but rather the cards use the positions of the houses to reference the actions and beliefs and whatnot of people. Trull was doing something important within Shadow's realm of influence, but his actions couldn't really be represented properly by, say, the Rope, the Magi, the Hounds, etc, so lo-and-behold a new card randomly springs up to symbolize him. Not only is this card most likely not going to appear again, but additionally, even if it was just like any other, u don't need to be an ascendant to have a card represent your actions in a Deck-laying. For that matter, you don't need to be an ascendant to even have the actual position within a House (like Munug for example).

[Jude]

But Trull was also listed in the glossery of TBH as knight of shadow, wasn't he? not saying he was an ascendant, just saying he was most likely the knight of shadow at the time. it wouldn't be an unheard of thing at all if Trull were the knight of shadow up until he got the axe

[D'rek]

Jude, on Nov 24 2008, 05:02 PM, said:

But Trull was also listed in the glossery of TBH as knight of shadow, wasn't he?

that's a negative. At least not in the UK mmpb version, which generally the mmpb have the most complete glossaries and end-stuff...

[Jude]

was it RG then? I'm sure I read it somewhere