[Tapper]

Morgoth, on 31 May 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Wait, when did people get confused about the tmdi index? It's ridiculously straight forwards.

Apart from the multi-faction thingie, which skyrockets a game to 7+ instantly, the index is very clear indeed, so the only thing I'd change about it is lowering multifaction games that have very simple roles.

[D'rek]

Tapper, on 31 May 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 31 May 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Wait, when did people get confused about the tmdi index? It's ridiculously straight forwards.

Apart from the multi-faction thingie, which skyrockets a game to 7+ instantly, the index is very clear indeed, so the only thing I'd change about it is lowering multifaction games that have very simple roles.

We could change it so whether the game is multi-faction or not does not affect the index?

Or have different indexes for town v scum, town v scum+ and faction games?

Or the TMDI is based on the roles/mechanics, but then you add +1 to it if the game has independents, +2 if it is a faction game?

[Vengeance]

Morgoth, on 31 May 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Wait, when did people get confused about the tmdi index? It's ridiculously straight forwards.

Cause people are stupid. A person is smart but people... Worse then lemmings.

[Morgoth]

Vengeance, on 31 May 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 31 May 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Wait, when did people get confused about the tmdi index? It's ridiculously straight forwards.

Cause people are stupid. A person is smart but people... Worse then lemmings.

Good thing the two of us are here to enlighten them.

[Tapper]

D, on 31 May 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

Tapper, on 31 May 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 31 May 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Wait, when did people get confused about the tmdi index? It's ridiculously straight forwards.

Apart from the multi-faction thingie, which skyrockets a game to 7+ instantly, the index is very clear indeed, so the only thing I'd change about it is lowering multifaction games that have very simple roles.

We could change it so whether the game is multi-faction or not does not affect the index?

Well, for faction games, this indeed so, but for town vs scum vs serial killer (last time that was used was somewhere in the 20s, probably), it matters - so I'd say your idea of adding +2 is very sound.
Imho, the less tinkering, the better. I tried setting up a flowchart, and it is very easy for tmdi 1-4, it gets more difficult progressively as you have to scale many more variants higher up the tree.

A simple scale index with a few modifiers as addendum would be very good, imho.

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Or have different indexes for town v scum, town v scum+ and faction games?

Or the TMDI is based on the roles/mechanics, but then you add +1 to it if the game has independents, +2 if it is a faction game?

I'd be very happy adopting the last bit.

[D'rek]

In the end, it's the creator/mod's job to give a good impression of what the game will be like, and the TMDI is just a tool for that. We do usually describe whether the game is TvS or faction, and if it will have weird mechanics or not ahead of time anyways.

[Silencer]

Hrm...do we have any scheduled mini's in-between Batman and Espers? If not, I've got an idea or two that I want to try out (not in terms of weird mechanics, it will be M&P, pretty much), so I'll put my name down if there isn't anything else in that vein in the queue.

[JLV]

There are actually 2 minis in line, currently.

Azathmaster/Lizra's game and Mott's game.

The list needs rearranging, ST's is done, Arkham's is open for signups/running. Whenever I die and get access to PSer I'll update it.

[Shinrei]

That would be good. Remember to put my Sengoku Chapter 3 on the list too. It's a faction game, everyone has a role, but the roles aren't really new or experimental so TMDI 8. The only things that aren't normal to most mafia setups will be fully explained in the OP, so everyone will start the game knowing what is going on. (Basically, you'll have all the major information up front except for some minor points, which will be different from the first faction game where people got pissy about knowing/not knowing who their leader was)

[Mentalist]

JLV, on 02 June 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

There are actually 2 minis in line, currently.

Azathmaster/Lizra's game and Mott's game.

The list needs rearranging, ST's is done, Arkham's is open for signups/running. Whenever I die and get access to PSer I'll update it.

I'll get on it sometime today

[JLV]

I'm going to update the OP.

It looks like we're doing Azath's mini, if there are no objections.

This is based on the assumption D'rek would want a low tmdi break between hers and ment';s game.

edit: no I'm not, no time.

This post has been edited by JLV: 14 June 2012 - 01:53 PM

[Azathmaster]

I'm good with doing my mini. These next weeks are the free est ill have all summer.

[Azathmaster]

I'll put up the sign ups now. If D'rek wants to do her game then I'm fine with that, but for now I'll just start sign ups, so they don't start over the weekend.

[D'rek]

JLV, on 14 June 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

This is based on the assumption D'rek would want a low tmdi break between hers and ment';s game.

Definitely! Not only was Ment's game also a high-tmdi, but it was a cult game too (albeit not *just* a cult game)!!! And even though mine is a totally different kind of cult game, it'd still be two high-tmdi cult-games back to back - BIG NO-NO!

I'm away around the July 1 weekend and Silencer is away the first week of July. I'm sure this next mini will go at least into the middle of next week, so I'm not looking to start Espers anytime in June, really. First week of July could work quite well for it, but we're pretty flexible.

[Silencer]

What D'rek said. We can shoe in a couple of minis between Arkham and Espers, for sure.

[Path-Shaper]

Updated the OP
-Azath

[Shinrei]

Path-Shaper, on 16 June 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

Updated the OP
-Azath

Fail

[Tapper]

Shinrei, on 17 June 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 16 June 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

Updated the OP
-Azath

Fail

I guess with update he meant 'adding the current game' instead of updating the OP with everything in the last few pages.
I'll see if I get to it somewhere this week.

[Path-Shaper]

Whoops...

[Obdigore]

D, on 14 June 2012 - 09:13 PM, said:

JLV, on 14 June 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

This is based on the assumption D'rek would want a low tmdi break between hers and ment';s game.

Definitely! Not only was Ment's game also a high-tmdi, but it was a cult game too (albeit not *just* a cult game)!!! And even though mine is a totally different kind of cult game, it'd still be two high-tmdi cult-games back to back - BIG NO-NO!

I'm away around the July 1 weekend and Silencer is away the first week of July. I'm sure this next mini will go at least into the middle of next week, so I'm not looking to start Espers anytime in June, really. First week of July could work quite well for it, but we're pretty flexible.

D'rek when are you running your game? Would I be able to start Dresden 2.0 around July 30th? I'm would assume we need time for your game and then a low TMDI or two?