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#21 User is offline   Macros 

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 10:10 AM

being from the emerald Isle everyone pronounces things wrong in my head, your list has very few in line with my own little head voice.
I understand your U for A likely originates in another languages phonetics but in my head it sounds absolutely ridiculous :o

Rhulad - Rue-aald (like, you will rue the day, and aald is like the name al with a d on it.)
Karsa Orlong - Car-sah Orr-long (Car, sah like sa(brina) Orr like Or(dinance) but slighgly more emphaiss on the r and long like far)
Duiker- Duke-er (duke like the nobel or fighhting word and er as in er...I'm lost)
Coltain - Coal-tain (coal like the mineral, tain like (s)tain)
Apsalar - Ap-salar (app(lication)Salar(y))
Baruk - Bar-ock (bar like a pub, ock like (m)ock, although its slowly changin to uke like (reb)uke)
Caladan Brood - Cal-ah-dan Brood (Cal like Cal(vin) ah was put in to make sure you took the phoneticaly not the letter, dan like the name and brood like an emo kid does)
Dassem Ultor - Da-seam Ul-tor (Da- seam (like in clothes) ultor like altar in form but ul(terious)(real)tor in pronunciation)
Ganoes Paran - Gan-o's Par-an (Gan as in Ghan(a) o's like talking about a plural of the letter o par like car an like (m)an)
Iskaral Pust - Iss-car-al Pust (iss as in (t)iss(ue) car like a car, al like the mans name, pust like bust)
Icarium- eh-car-um (the eh is how i say the I, like I(caris) and i ignore the i in ium due to an initial misread mis pronunciation :p)
Kallor- Kal-orr (the orr like i dunno, or(dinary) but heavier)
Kilava - Kill-ava
Laseen - La-scene
Onos T'oolan - Onus T'ool-an (onus as in there an onus (sp) no you to do something and T'ool-an like tool with a slight hitch and an
Raest - Raist (like rais(ed) as in lifted but the ed replaced with a t.)
Seren Pedac - Ser-an Pen-dac (I kno my pendac is wrong =but its a misread thats stuck in my head, and i know the seren hould be like the real seren name, but its stuck as ser-an)
Tayschrenn - Tay-schren (tay like bay, schren like wren the bird)
Trull Sengar - Trull - sen-gar (trull like hull, sen like zen with an s and gar as is (han)gar)
Udinass - ooo-din-as (ooo as in the childish sound din as in a noise as as in as)
Tehol Beddict - Tay-hol (like bay but said short and hol like haul(age) I always say their surname as benedict for some reason,t ha twill never change :o)
Brys - Bries (fired with a :p
Itkovian - Ict-ovan (one of my misreads tyhat wont change, if i focus on it, its it-cove-ian)
Cottilion - Co-till-eon (co (as in & co) Till like a register and eon like the times scale)
Bauchelin - Baw-shelin (as close as i can type what I'm thinking, maybe bosh-shellin like the filthy bosh, shell from a beach in.)
Crokus - Croak-us
Mekhar - Meck-ar (Mek is like feck and ar as in ar(row) basically feckar)
Ceda Kuru Qan - Seed-a Cur(e)-oo Kwan (the kuru - is like the start of cure with the oo like igloo)
Kellanved - Kell-van-ed (I mis read it first time and its stuck, if i focus on it its Kell-anv(il)-ed(itor)


Tiste Andi - Tyssed - Andee (tyssed is like pissed but with the higher emphasis that a y gives, almost like yeast actually, then Andee is like the ande mountains)
Tiste Liosan - Tyssed Leo-san (same tiste, then Leo the lion and san(itary))
Tiste Edur - Tyssed Ed-ur (same tiste, then Ed(itor)(f)ur))
T'lan Imass - T'elan Im-ass (the phoneetic T not letter, like t(ea) I dontknow why its elan, but it is, a very short so e before lan(d) possibly just a followon form my pronunciation of the t)
Jaghut - Jag-oot (the oot as if a scottish/jordy man said out)
K'Chain Che'Malle - K'chain che-e'maal (first is just ke (not just the letter k, the phonetic k) stop chain, the che isnt like che the revoluationary, more pithy almost like chit, and maal is like (a)mall(gimated))
Teblor - Teb-lor (like kevlar but with an o if you know what i mean)
Forkrul Assail - For-krull Assail (the almost like a'forekrull there was Assail)
Letherii- Leth-ari (this is one of the few ones thats changed for me, used to be letheary but now its more like leth(argic)(ferr)ari)


Anomander Rake - Ano-man-der Rake
Silchas Ruin - Sill-chas Ruin ((window)sill and chas is like has with a "ch" as in cha cha cha)
Andarist - An-darist (dar like tar and ist like er ist, sortof like (gui)tarist with a d)
Scabandari Bloodeye - Ska-bandari (ska like the godawful music genre bandari like band(saf)ari)
Eleint - El-e-ant
K'Rul- Krull (like cr(acker)(h)ull)
Kilmandaro - Kill-Man-Daro (almost like kilimanjaro mountain)
Mael - Mail
Sukuhl Ankhadu - So-cul Anc-had-oo (Anc as is Anc(hor))
Menandore - Men-an-door
Sheltatha Lore - Shell-Ta-Tha ( not "(Th)e" sound. like " (th)ank ")
Osserc - Oss-er-ic (should likely be oss-irk or something but i normally over/under pronounce owrds)
Tiam - Tame (totally wonrg I know, but once i get a word in my head it stays)

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Posted 12 June 2008 - 11:08 AM

I say my vowels the way they are phonetically said as per the rules of my language, roar.

Names are crazy enough for me anyway without making them into Undees :)
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Posted 12 June 2008 - 11:40 AM

OtataralDragon;326971 said:

I'm more curious about which syllables people stress, and whether they pronounce all or do the silent-e-at-the-end type thing.

Kil-MAN-dar-os or Kil-man-DAR-os? LETH-er-ii or Leth-ER-ii? And is it Ga-no-es or more Ga-knows?

For Rake, it seems natural to say A-no-MAN-der - but with the full name, I want to say A-no-man-DAR-is, which makes the whole thing feel a little odd...


Notice how many people just call him Paran? Lolz.... what an illiterate bunch of faygs.

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Wow, what a list! Have repzorz.

EDIT: I just came up with a new curse word! Jaghut-oriented, however.

Faghut/Fhag.

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Posted 12 June 2008 - 11:13 PM

how do you say Unnutal????
uhn at al
you nat al
what??
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Posted 19 June 2008 - 02:40 AM

now i thought an interesting way to pronounce "Jaghut" would be to take the -aghu- and make it sound like "thOUGHt" like say it kinda like "Joort"

perhaps not popular but a theory none the less
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Posted 14 July 2008 - 12:47 PM

I think Jag - Hut sounds better. Also, there is a type of antelope called a Duiker... it's pronounced Dwi-ker, which is how I've alway read it..
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Posted 14 July 2008 - 02:46 PM

drag-ne-pur or drawn-ye-pur?
I just looked at it this morning and realized it has the same Italian 'gn' as gnocchi and lasagna.
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Posted 14 July 2008 - 02:49 PM

I use the first.
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Posted 14 July 2008 - 03:14 PM

I do too, because of the consonance with "dragon", which I'm sure was SE's intent.
But then I also say "Jag-hut", whereas I seem to recall Steve using "Jaghoo".
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Posted 14 July 2008 - 03:24 PM

An-o-MAN-der
An-o-man-DAR-is
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 01:19 AM

@ST - I say Un-u-tal. Although somewhat more flowing, i.e. I don't stress the middle 'u'.

@Carnifex - I say "Dran-e-pur", ignoring the g. It just seems better. You technically should never pronounce gn as g-n. It just doesn't work.

On a side note, anybody else notice that Anomandaris Ipurake, if you also look at Dragnipurake, are essentially the same word? I've thought they might be related for quite some time, but never posted it....
I think he adopted the Rake bit after he got Dragnipur.
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 02:03 AM

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@ST - I say Un-u-tal. Although somewhat more flowing, i.e. I don't stress the middle 'u'.

@Carnifex - I say "Dran-e-pur", ignoring the g. It just seems better. You technically should never pronounce gn as g-n. It just doesn't work.

On a side note, anybody else notice that Anomandaris Ipurake, if you also look at Dragnipurake, are essentially the same word? I've thought they might be related for quite some time, but never posted it....
I think he adopted the Rake bit after he got Dragnipur.


He's been called several different names throughout the series. I thought he said his true name would be too hard to say, and that Anomander Rake was the closest.
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 02:29 AM

Yes, but he's also been called Dragnipurake and Ipurake - both of which contain "Rake". So I think it's just an abbreviation. At the same time, we don't know if these are abbreviations themselves.
Rake also didn't say that his name would be too difficult to pronounce, he just said that "Rake" was the easiest way of saying it. So it could be that it's one hell of a lot easier to say "Rake" than "Dragnipurake".
The sword was once called Dragnipurake, which is where I got the connection to Ipurake, I think. He might have been called Dragnipurake at one time though.
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 04:37 PM

HoosierDaddy;351417 said:

He's been called several different names throughout the series. I thought he said his true name would be too hard to say, and that Anomander Rake was the closest.


That was my impression also. As a result, I always crack up when the other Andii call him by the "easy" version of his name.
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Posted 16 July 2008 - 05:19 AM

About not wanting to change things once you get them in your head: for the first couple of books I pictured Quick Ben as a white guy. Every time his dark skin was mentioned, I just assumed it was because he was tanned from living in the desert. I can't picture him as a black guy now :D
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 11:43 AM

Well, having seen SE last week I have a few comments on pronunciation. Someone asked him how to pronounce Jaghut. SE said he pronounced it 'Jag-oot'. Then he said he really didn't care how people pronounced things - in fact, he and Cam didn't even agree on the pronunciations!

But, for the record he pronounced Anomander as 'Ano-man-der', Draonus as 'dra-CO-nus', Kruppe as 'Krup' or maybe 'kroop' - can't remember which, but the e at the end was definitely silent. I can't remember many others, Kallor and Torvald Nom were exactly as you might expect ('Kall-or', 'Tor-vald Nom').

But, as SE says, each to his own :D
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 03:34 PM

Most names in the series i come up with which i find an obvious pronunciation... except a few and most notably is Duiker. His name has so many potentially correct ways of saying it that my mind just cannot choose one so I just don't pronounce it while reading it, just kinda skip over it and say "yeah that guy over there". It looks like his name could go as Dwi-Ker but no other name seems even close to a similar language in the whole series so that could clearly just be Dew-Ker and i dunno what could possibly be right so i just have to ignore it!!

Also if your name isn't as cool as Ganoes Paran, then who cares how it is pronounced? I might name a dog or song Ganoes as it just sounds so cool to me...
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 01:05 AM

I pronounce it Dwi-ker, and I pronounce all Nom s as "gnome".

And saying that you can't pronounce it as drag-ni-pur is silly. Magnum? Signet? Can't think of any others right now, but I'm sure there are many more.
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Posted 22 August 2008 - 09:07 PM

Hokonoso;365354 said:

Most names in the series i come up with which i find an obvious pronunciation... except a few and most notably is Duiker.


There are several species of small antelope native to South Africa called duikers; their name is pronounced "dyker". I use this pronunciation for the character's name as well.
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Posted 22 August 2008 - 09:08 PM

Perashaman;365638 said:

I pronounce it Dwi-ker, and I pronounce all Nom s as "gnome".

And saying that you can't pronounce it as drag-ni-pur is silly. Magnum? Signet? Can't think of any others right now, but I'm sure there are many more.


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