[Terez]

The truth hurts, doesn't it? I found it very hard to listen to, but I didn't need that to tell me she was dumb...

[Osric]

Well I dunno, you know everything is about Obama, Obama is the better speaker and better man, mccain is mostly in the media negatively. But I think we're forgetting that there's like millions of hilbillies in America who don't go online, who don't influence the media and who, more importantly, are not going to vote for a black president.

I wouldnt be suprised if Mccain won, just because of that.

Disclaimer
Not judging all americans by this, a lot of americans are not stupid and america is one of the most powerful countries for a reason, but it's a fact their social services are like a third world country and there are a LOT of poor and ignorant people.

This post has been edited by Osric: 02 November 2008 - 01:11 PM

[Falco]

I think Obama will win quite comfortably, just to be honest.

[Terez]

Be prepared for the McCain effect. They're all embarrassed to admit they're voting for him.

[amphibian]

Falco, on Nov 2 2008, 09:27 AM, said:

I think Obama will win quite comfortably, just to be honest.

Five points? 10? 20? What's "comfortable"?

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Obdigore, on Nov 1 2008, 08:54 PM, said:

Raymond Luxury Yacht, on Oct 31 2008, 10:31 AM, said:

Obdigore, on Oct 30 2008, 03:02 PM, said:

Yea you can vote from about 7am until 8 or 9 pm here.

RLY is just being lazy, or maybe he has hot plans for the wife on tuesday night.

Lots of people around here are saying the same thing as RLY, and it worries me because it means McCain is getting your vote. Do you think the McCain backers are going to sit around and not vote? That is the ONLY chance McCain has at this point, that Obama's supporters are lazy and assume they have won, and so don't vote.

Bah.

How is McCain getting my vote? I'm voting. For Obama. I think you missed something. I'm just sending it in, instead of going and voting in person.

I don't think you can vote for Pres/vice pres seperately. I believe they are listed as one choice, you vote for Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin.

I was going off on a tangent. People who think Obama already won, who would be voting for obama, and don't, are essentially giving McCain a vote.

Oh. But I am voting.

[HoosierDaddy]

1. Palin is kinda stupid. But, worse than that, she surrounds herself with stupid people, i.e. the woman who puts Palin on the phone ("I always do that... tee hee hee!).
2. This thing is going to close. Obama might lead by around 8% nationally, but that is with 6% +/- 2% undecided, and those undecideds are going to break strongly for McCain, there is no other reason they are undecided besides the fact that they just can't quite get themselves to vote for a black man. The only thing that gives me a smidgeon of hope is that Obama is over 50%.
3. It's not the percentages that matter, it's the turnout. If Obama turns out his voters he's over 300 electoral college votes and has a mandate, with Dem's getting close to 60 Senate seats and a massive majority in the House. Pray, pray, pray that turnout approaches the % of possibl voters of the 40's and 50's when 80% of people registered actually do vote.
4. There is absolutely no reason for election day to not be a national holiday. Having it not be one is a fantastic coup for conservatives as turnout is ultimately reduced significantly.
5. Tuesday is a holiday for me, and I'm going to be watching t.v. until the vote gets called, and drinking/celebrating every D victory.
6. For those who don't want to watch all of it, if Indiana does not get called within 30 minutes (polls close here at 6:00 p.m. EST, first to close), or it's "too close to call" after 45 minutes or so, Democrats/liberals start celebrating because Obama wins big.

Vote. Even if you are going t vote for McCain.

Obama/Biden '08!

[Terez]

HoosierDaddy, on Nov 2 2008, 04:22 PM, said:

1. Palin is kinda stupid. But, worse than that, she surrounds herself with stupid people, i.e. the woman who puts Palin on the phone ("I always do that... tee hee hee!).

Agreed. And McCain is stupid for going for that.

HD said:

2. This thing is going too close. Obama might lead by around 8% nationally, but that is with 6% +/- 2% undecided, and those undecideds are going to break strongly for McCain, there is no other reason they are undecided besides the fact that they just can't quite get themselves to vote for a black man.

That last bit. I call it the McCain effect. You think the poll results are bad here? At another site I go to, the McCain supporters (few as there were around the time the poll here was started) have slowly dropped away to where NOBODY is willing to admit they're voting for him, cause they know he sucks. You can bet they'll be casting anti-Obama votes for McCain, but they would have done the same against any liberal candidate. They just don't like McCain. They didn't like any of their choices this year, so their voter turnout was horrificly low for the primaries (while droves came out for Obama and Hillary). But, for the large part, they're still conservative idealogues that will cast a grudging anti-liberal vote at the polls. The fact that Obama is leading, and the fact that Congress might well become more liberal than we've seen in several decades will bring them out in huge numbers to cast grudging anti-Obama votes. I'm not saying that all those who tend conservative will do that, but I know a lot of them will, and they're not about to admit it on a forum where they debate politics and might actually have to take responsibility for supporting McCain if he wins. He sucks, and everybody knows it. Obama supporters aren't scared of having to take responsibility for him.

HD said:

The only thing that gives me a smidgeon of hope is that Obama is over 50%.

I'm very scared of complacency in this election, because of the polls. Obama's mentioned that he's concerned about complacency as well. Every vote counts in this election. In any election.

HD said:

4. There is absolutely no reason for election day to not be a national holiday. Having it not be one is a fantastic coup for conservatives as turnout is ultimately reduced significantly.

This, I agree with. But a lot of low-income jobs don't observe federal holidays. And a lot of higher-income people would be pissed if they did (cause then they couldn't get gas, or go to the grocery store, or get a tire changed, or a $6 frappuccino at Starbucks).

HD said:

5. Tuesday is a holiday for me, and I'm going to be watching t.v. until the vote gets called, and drinking/celebrating every D victory.

I don't have anything major on Wednesday but I do need to go to class. I hope it doesn't run too far into the night, and I hope that the places I can watch live coverage on the internet don't have bandwidth issues. I might head down to the media room to watch Stewart and Colbert (and bring my laptop with me, of course ).

HD said:

6. For those who don't want to watch all of it, if Indiana does not get called within 30 minutes (polls close here at 6:00 p.m. EST, first to close), or it's "too close to call" after 45 minutes or so, Democrats/liberals start celebrating because Obama wins big.

I was talking to one of my music theory profs the other day about Mississippi and Indiana both going pink at pollster.com (now MS is red again and IN is a full-fledged swing state). Anyway, the theory prof is from Indiana, and got all of his degrees at IU, and he's just amazed. He mentioned that he doesn't really feel inclined to vote in MS, and I argued that he should anyway, always. The inclination of your state is NEVER a good reason to stay home. But I know that there are a lot of people in MS that don't vote for that same reason.

HD said:

Vote. Even if you are going t vote for McCain.

Obama/Biden '08!

I'm voting, and I'm driving a friend to Tupelo, MS (3-4 hours away) so he can vote.

[Falco]

amphibian, on Nov 3 2008, 06:16 AM, said:

Falco, on Nov 2 2008, 09:27 AM, said:

I think Obama will win quite comfortably, just to be honest.

Five points? 10? 20? What's "comfortable"?

We can do predictions on www.270towin.com

I have Montana, Nevada, North Carolina all going blue. Penn will stay blue. Ohio, Indiana, Missouri, North Dakota all go red.

Obama wins 309-229. Comfortably in the EV stakes.

[Dolmen 2.0]

I'm going with Obama, change is what the country needs. Positive change.

[cerveza_fiesta]

oh man, listening to the Sarah Palin prank call....oh my god. This is very hard to listen to, but she doesn't come across as especially retarded...

If you ignore the fact they totally pranked her and she didn't guess that it wasn't sarkosy.

[Zakari39]

CNN has the neatest Electoral College map...you can play around with your hearts content making Jesusland shrink into oblivion.

[Terez]

Hey, I'm an Obama voter in Jesusland.

[HoosierDaddy]

Aren't we all? He does have the whole world in his hands.

[Terez]

Well, there's Jesusland, and then there's JESUSLAND:



So I guess I technically don't live in JESUSLAND...there's a good bit of blue up the MS river valley...

I mean....JEEZ look at that HUGE swath of land without a single county that went blue in 2004. That's the Bible Belt, baby!

This post has been edited by Terez: 03 November 2008 - 08:59 PM

[HoosierDaddy]

Terez, on Nov 3 2008, 03:58 PM, said:

Well, there's Jesusland, and then there's JESUSLAND:



So I guess I technically don't live in JESUSLAND...there's a good bit of blue up the MS river valley...

I just love Indiana. 3 Blue counties, Marion (Indianapolis), Monroe (IU), and Lake (Gary & East Chicago).

A quick and dirty analysis of that map and U.S. politics: Population = more liberal, whereas isolation = conservative and incestual.

[Terez]

I hope for your sake that Indiana goes blue tomorrow. MS is a longer shot, I think...

[HoosierDaddy]

I hope for all our sakes it does. I've purposefully not voted so that I can get in all the excitment on Tuesday. Now, yes, I know that labels me as an uber-nerd. But, I also post on this forum so that is superfluous at this point.

In the immortal words of Frank the Tank: "I saw Blue, and it was glorious!"

[frookenhauer]

Good Luck Obama! God Bless!

Poor Luck Old fart chip geeza! Satan Loves you!

[Mushroom]

I like this one;

This post has been edited by Mushroom: 04 November 2008 - 02:32 AM