[councilor]

there is an inherent unfairness to the whole system. since the next US president be the leader of the free world, shouldn't the rest of the free world get a vote too? i know if the rest of the world gets their say, Obama would win hands down.

[amphibian]

councilor, on Oct 1 2008, 11:18 PM, said:

there is an inherent unfairness to the whole system. since the next US president be the leader of the free world, shouldn't the rest of the free world get a vote too? i know if the rest of the world gets their say, Obama would win hands down.

"Hey everybody, let's all make stupid statements that make no gotdang sense whatsoever in the attempt to a) be funny and/or try to tick Americans off." You failed on both counts.

World War I. Lend/Lease Act. World War II. Marshall Plan. Pizza. NATO. Stevie Wonder. Free Pron. Google. You shut the heck up.

The polls are crazy right now. There's so many of them and right now, RealClearPolitics has Obama up from anywhere between 9 and 2 points. I don't follow politics enough to know if specific pollsters have been absolutely nailing states and counties, but if you do, follow those and forget the media.

This post has been edited by amphibian: 02 October 2008 - 04:21 AM

[Terez]

Real men don't say "sass".

[Dancer+]

It looks like a landslide victory, it will be interesting to see how much the polls reflect our feelings (albeit many of us not being American)

[amphibian]

Dancer, on Oct 2 2008, 07:19 AM, said:

It looks like a landslide victory, it will be interesting to see how much the polls reflect our feelings (albeit many of us not being American)

Are you serious? Landslide? You think Obama or McCain is going to win by more than 15 points?

That won't happen. I'll do a Mexican hat dance and drink four shots in a row if it does.

This post has been edited by amphibian: 02 October 2008 - 01:53 PM

[Terez]

Well, it depends. I'm interested to see if the debate tonight has an effect. Yeah, I think it's unlikely that Obama will win by a landslide...but the McCain campaign has some serious potential for cataclysmic failure...a whole month to go...

[Optimus Prime]

I think Obama will win bigger than people expect.

It's sad that some are saying Sarah Palin "won" last night's debate simply because she didn't self destruct. Pathetic.

[Bent]

Optimus Prime, on Oct 3 2008, 03:18 PM, said:

I think Obama will win bigger than people expect.

It's sad that some are saying Sarah Palin "won" last night's debate simply because she didn't self destruct. Pathetic.

I actually agree with this, we all know she won be cause she chewed Biden into pieces and spit out his bloody corpse.

[Obdigore]

Bent said:

I actually agree with this, we all know she won be cause she chewed Biden into pieces and spit out his bloody corpse.

I was waiting all night for Biden to do a rebuttal after Palin claimed 'McCain is a Maverick!' with something like 'Does that make you Iceman?' It works on so many different levels!

The debate was idiotic. Biden just hammered again and again how he is a local middle-class boy and how McCain and the Reps are responsable for the economy and for any hardships ever. Palin said numerous times 'you are wrong', then didn't elaborate and went off on a tangent. I don't think she ever actually answered a question posed to her, although Biden did quite a bit of sidestepping as well.

[Dancer+]

amphibian, on Oct 2 2008, 02:51 PM, said:

Dancer, on Oct 2 2008, 07:19 AM, said:

It looks like a landslide victory, it will be interesting to see how much the polls reflect our feelings (albeit many of us not being American)

Are you serious? Landslide? You think Obama or McCain is going to win by more than 15 points?

That won't happen. I'll do a Mexican hat dance and drink four shots in a row if it does.

The poll on the forum was a landslide. Not the actual voting, it looks very even across a few select states that a British newspaper(s) decided to print (a few days ago) - I believe it was the Guardian.

[James]

"The biggest debate this week; lipstick on a pig. I cant wait for next weeks big issue; Should squirrels be aloud to water ski?" -Peter Helliar petespace ep.23
Unfortunately that's the first thing that comes to mind ever time i think of the US elections

[mocker]

clicked on a link somwhere earlier that led to reading posts from irrate Americans being majorly pissed of with Russell Brand at the MTV award things over there.

its kinda bad that he decided to pro Obama so much but i think he was just trying to convey how frustrated the rest of the world gets knowing that Americans are even considering McCain! think the stat is 4:1 in Obama's favour in Europe.

altho calling Bush a retarded cowboy did make me chuckle! he is.

still tho it aint our say, you guys have a daunting responsibility of choosing a President who can deal with the hard times we all got ahead. muchos respectos.

it'll be interesting to see whether Obama can do more than just talk nice rhetoric, and whether McCains campaign can consist of more than "did i tell you i was a POW?"

i'd vote for Bill Clinton

This post has been edited by mocker: 04 October 2008 - 02:58 PM

[mocker]

and a lot of these polls are done in malls, so the people polling are the ones who aren't savvy enough to cut a wide berth wen they see a chump with a clipboard. love it

This post has been edited by mocker: 04 October 2008 - 02:55 PM

[amphibian]

mocker, on Oct 4 2008, 10:43 AM, said:

and a lot of these polls are done in malls, so the people polling are the ones who aren't savvy enough to cut a wide berth wen they see a chump with a clipboard. love it

It is a really weird thing that those who should be answering polls have either no time or no inclination to actually go through one.

I know pollsters try to correct for this, but honestly, I don't think they do a good enough job of it.

[Bent]

Alright, gonna let you guys in on a little secret, polls are not really done sop much in malls anymore, I supliment my money at work by taking polls. Pays 3 to 4 dollars usually per poll, although once I got 35 bucks, for taking a poll about Burger King. Its done online. Also, now telemarketers call and give surveys, I answer maybe 1 every 4 or 5 months. So really pollsters don't have to work very hard to get the info anymore. At least not down here in the dumb old south, lol.

[Shinrei]

Listening to NPR this morning and their talking about the estimated costs of Obama's programs. I don't see how trillions of dollars of spending will fix our current economic crisis.

Of course, McCain continuing to spend trillions of dollars on wars won't help much either.


STOP USING THE USA CREDIT CARD YOU BASTARDS!

[Chance]

The 20th, on Oct 5 2008, 03:30 PM, said:

Listening to NPR this morning and their talking about the estimated costs of Obama's programs. I don't see how trillions of dollars of spending will fix our current economic crisis.

Of course, McCain continuing to spend trillions of dollars on wars won't help much either.

Id rather have ecconmic/social reforms that should have been implemented years ago for my tax money then just waste it on pointless wars not to speak about expanding them...but then Im a swede and we love our high tax and large amount of state control or not and have a low single didgit % of the budget going to military (well with increased cuts each year )...so what do I know

Well that the US economic crisis is more then misspending wallstreet money from nothing people...its fundamental miss managment on highest level and down...and anyone who things a Bush clone can handle it is smoking to much of something unhealthy...

/Chance

This post has been edited by Chance: 05 October 2008 - 03:07 PM

[Anomander]

My roommate showed me this link earlier today, showing the standings in terms of Obama/McCain, the Senate, and the House. It's updated daily, and I found it pretty interesting:

www.electoral-vote.com

[HoosierDaddy]

Indiana is currently a battleground state with polls within ~3% in either direction depending upon the poll. If Indiana remains within 5% on the R side then that bodes extremely well for the Obama campaign, considering the last two elections the R's won by 20+ points in IN and IN hasn't gone D since 1964. I am absolutely ecstatic that IN is a battleground for the first time ever in my life.

[Shinrei]

Chance, on Oct 5 2008, 03:06 PM, said:

Well that the US economic crisis is more then misspending wallstreet money from nothing people...its fundamental miss managment on highest level and down...and anyone who things a Bush clone can handle it is smoking to much of something unhealthy...

/Chance

I don't think either candidate has a prayer of handling it. What is fundamentally wrong goes beyond what the executive branch can hope to do.....