[Adjutant Stormy~]

Mentalist;311723 said:

@ AIJ: people think that of Crust b/c he got the Wickans to mainland instead of turning them in... but since he did it for the money, I don't pt much trust into that

@L'oric--Fener's hiding in Errant's old temple in Letheras.

1) Didn't crust try to refuse the huge chest of cash Tavore lobbed at him?
2) Quote on fener? I don't remember that......

[Illuyankas]

The Errant and Fener have a conversation in RG. He states his name at the end of it. It's before the Errant turns into a dick and loses an eye, I think.

[L'oric]

"it's all well and good, but I'm sure Hood didn't see it as straight out "betrayal"... probably more like "a test of faith"-Mentalist"

If I was a god like character asking for a worshipper of mine to do something they normally would not do what would be my paradigm?
-King Priam of Greece sacrificing his son to get the ships across the agean in order to sack Troy?
-Abraham told to sacrifice his son in the bible. He proves he would and the son is spared.
There might be another but I can't think of it off the top of my head.

Now given then SE loves to break down storied cliches I think it fits well that the knight of hood went against Hood's wishes, but I think it would fit in just as well with the analogy that being worshipped by worshippers that will not do your bidding is not the most pleasant of experiences, and thats just the way it goes for god's in the Malazan world.

Sincerely,

[Mentalist]

Lol, in all fairness, L'oric, your argument is valid, but I feel I MUST correct you
Priam WAS the king of Troy
you're thinking Agamemnon, who sacrificed his daughter to Artemis

[L'oric]

Damn my memory! I took latin 15 years ago....and I am not going to take a refresher course. Maybe I should have googled that.-only one thing in my favor on that one and thats the question mark I left behind.

[councilor]

Aptorian;311058 said:

Somewhere in the end of Bonehunters, it says that Paran leaves 7C and he never returns. So that is highly unlikely.

Also Paran doesn't really have any connection to the Wickans, so he doesn't have any reason to get upset about another people subjugated by the empire.

i think it also mentions that he was heading towards aren. where do you think the punitive army is going to land?

[Ain't_It_Just_]

councilor;311974 said:

i think it also mentions that he was heading towards aren. where do you think the punitive army is going to land?

He could have gone anywhere. But I assume he and the Host are still at sea.

@Stormy

The part in that i don't get is why he refused a huge chest of gold. Not because he thinks that "it was fine, don't mention it, etc.", because that ain't MBOTF. I still have a hard time working people out in the books. Example: have you tried following what Cartheron Crust says while on the ragstopper in DG?

[D'rek]

Ain said:

The part in that i don't get is why he refused a huge chest of gold. Not because he thinks that "it was fine, don't mention it, etc.", because that ain't MBOTF. I still have a hard time working people out in the books. Example: have you tried following what Cartheron Crust says while on the ragstopper in DG?

I figure he began by refusing the chest of gold because he saw it contained a lot more then he was asking and knew Tavore was about to make some silly request of him. He'd rather have just taken his bag of gold and sailed away to Malazarctica then do some dangerous job in Imperial waters. In the end he relented anyways.

And yeah, he is tough to follow in DG. Kalam's talk about how Mockra can be used to induce a mental block on people comes to my mind. It would seem Crust spends most of that time under a mental block from Salk Elan which prevents him from
a) thinking too much about they're navigation
thinking about mental blockages
c) identifying Salk Elan as a Claw (or even as Pearl if Crust would know him)

he does a fair job of circumnavigating the blockage and trying to hint things to Kalam, who is either too stupid to realize the truth of things or being mental-blocked himself...

[Mentalist]

The captain of the Ragstopper in DG is supposed to be quite mad. Supposedly, it's all Pearl's fault.

Could be that Catheron wasn't already "all there", though...