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I've re-read the book recently and still don't get something. Now I don't know if people have discussed this or not, so forgive me if I am dragging up a "dead donkey".
What was the point of The Malazan splitting their force up to try and reach the Jaghut headquarter before everyone else? They knoew they didn't have the force needed to win on their own. They knew they would be massacred if their allies didn't reach them in time. So it wasn't a race to claim the most land as such.
Now by force marching the allies, the soldiers would be too tired to fight when they got there, cause for failures of numerous historical battles on earth. Again, doesn't make sense in the strategic sense, considering Whiskey Jack, Dujek are reputely briliant tacticians.
I am fascinated with military strategies so this stuck in my mind. What the hell was the point of themracing ahead? It doesn't make any tactical sense. I can understand if they thought they could win on their own and lay claim to the spoil for the Empire. But clearly they knew it was suicidal. So what was the rationale? Was there something important that I missed?
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Malazan's army strategy
#2 Guest_Whacked_*
Posted 07 December 2005 - 06:54 PM
Before posting a question that may have already been asked, I searched and found this.
No one replied and it was more than a year ago.
Have to admit that whole split the combined arimies and race to the Pannion Seer didn't make sense to me either.
So, why, oh why, oh why, did Dujeck and Whiskeyjack race to die without waiting for Caladan? It makes no sense to me.
No one replied and it was more than a year ago.
Have to admit that whole split the combined arimies and race to the Pannion Seer didn't make sense to me either.
So, why, oh why, oh why, did Dujeck and Whiskeyjack race to die without waiting for Caladan? It makes no sense to me.
#3 Guest_Merkur_*
Posted 08 December 2005 - 07:37 AM
The original strategy was quite sound actually.
They thought (rightly so) that they should not let the enemy deploy on its own accord. If the Pannion troops would have been digged in, the whole attack would last as long as Pale. Remember, the flying fortress was assumed as lost.
So it was a great move to send troops ahead.
There was a fumble by Dujek - his decision to attack better than to withdraw, meaning "to make it worth". He was right in assuming that he could not hold the fortifications, but i would have simply withdrawn, after booby-trapping the ditches. And this certainly is the reason, why he is crushed and will let Tavore take command.
They thought (rightly so) that they should not let the enemy deploy on its own accord. If the Pannion troops would have been digged in, the whole attack would last as long as Pale. Remember, the flying fortress was assumed as lost.
So it was a great move to send troops ahead.
There was a fumble by Dujek - his decision to attack better than to withdraw, meaning "to make it worth". He was right in assuming that he could not hold the fortifications, but i would have simply withdrawn, after booby-trapping the ditches. And this certainly is the reason, why he is crushed and will let Tavore take command.
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Posted 09 December 2005 - 06:59 AM
Well actually there were a whole bunch of replies to that question Whacked but the replies to many archived threads got deleted in the forum move.
To answer the question.
Yes it was a sound strategy like Merkur said it was prevent the Pannion making any dug in fortifications outside their city. Like Brood or Korlat said instead of waiting 4 weeks for the malazans they would wait 4 days for when they meet up.
So when the first malazan force gets there they capture the hastilly made fortifications. Which they did. The pannions retreated to the city.
Dujek could have withdrawn destroying the trenches or attacked. He chose to attack because he thought it would do more damage to the pannion forces.
However there was something that none of the commanders took into consideration or anticipated or knew that they would encounter at Corel.
K'Chain Che'malle. 1 thousand of those creatures basically threw the malazans whole military (and slightly political) plan out the window, as the K'Chains did a lot of unexpected damage to the malazans.
To answer the question.
Yes it was a sound strategy like Merkur said it was prevent the Pannion making any dug in fortifications outside their city. Like Brood or Korlat said instead of waiting 4 weeks for the malazans they would wait 4 days for when they meet up.
So when the first malazan force gets there they capture the hastilly made fortifications. Which they did. The pannions retreated to the city.
Dujek could have withdrawn destroying the trenches or attacked. He chose to attack because he thought it would do more damage to the pannion forces.
However there was something that none of the commanders took into consideration or anticipated or knew that they would encounter at Corel.
K'Chain Che'malle. 1 thousand of those creatures basically threw the malazans whole military (and slightly political) plan out the window, as the K'Chains did a lot of unexpected damage to the malazans.
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