Help
im not sure its so much of a "soul" thing as a "consciousness" thing. the jaghut surely believe in consciousness, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they think in terms of "souls". its just a matter of power. disbelieve in an afterlife all you want, if your a jaghut tyrant, part of you is gonna linger after you die, and that part can possess lesser willed beings.
So Hood... what is he?
#21
Sinisdar Toste 
- Dead Serious
-
- Group: Malaz Regular
- Posts: 3,851
- Joined: 14-July 07
- Location:The C-Hood
Posted 21 February 2010 - 03:49 AM
There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line.
- Oscar Levant
- Oscar Levant
#22
WhiskeyJackDaniels
- Emperor
-
- Group: Malaz Regular
- Posts: 885
- Joined: 19-February 09
- Location:Syracuse
Posted 21 February 2010 - 05:28 AM
Sinisdar Toste, on 21 February 2010 - 03:49 AM, said:
im not sure its so much of a "soul" thing as a "consciousness" thing. the jaghut surely believe in consciousness, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they think in terms of "souls". its just a matter of power. disbelieve in an afterlife all you want, if your a jaghut tyrant, part of you is gonna linger after you die, and that part can possess lesser willed beings.
^
This is a good explanation. And thats the reason I said soul/essence/power or whatever it was. Its not a religious belief thing, its a power thing.
So, you're the historian who survived the Chain of Dogs.
Actually, I didn't.
It seems you stand alone.
It was ever thus.
Actually, I didn't.
It seems you stand alone.
It was ever thus.
#23
HoosierDaddy
- Believer
-
- Group: Malaz Regular
- Posts: 8,049
- Joined: 30-June 08
- Location:Indianapolis
- Interests:Football
Posted 21 February 2010 - 05:53 AM
Harvester, on 20 February 2010 - 03:34 PM, said:
I think ice sort of replaced death in Lether. I think that's why he was associated with the aspect of death.
This is much more the reason why there is no Hold of Death in the Letherii system of Holds as opposed to Ice being mingled with Death in general.
Also, there is a difference between willful annihilation of one's essence, and having the power to NOT be annihilated. Consider those Jaghut who were pinned. They didn't want to die, but some of them might not fight it or have the power to fight it (DG, MoI Jaghut come to mind).
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#24
Harvester
- Evil Baron Kitty of the Abyssmal Army
-
- Group: The Abyssmal Army
- Posts: 486
- Joined: 26-December 09
Posted 21 February 2010 - 01:48 PM
Mhmh, I just tried to exdplain the (as it turned out) wrong quote "Death rules the Hold of Ice". As for the ghosts... well they were frozen in place and time.
But is Verdith'anath simply a religious belief? Ah, never mind.
But is Verdith'anath simply a religious belief? Ah, never mind.
#25
Illuyankas
- Retro Classic
-
- Group: The Hateocracy of Truth
- Posts: 7,254
- Joined: 28-September 04
- Will cluck you up
Posted 21 February 2010 - 02:28 PM
Spoilers:
Spoiler
Hello, soldiers, look at your mage, now back to me, now back at your mage, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped being an unascended mortal and switched to Sole Spice, he could smell like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in a warren with the High Mage your cadre mage could smell like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s an acorn with two gates to that realm you love. Look again, the acorn is now otataral. Anything is possible when your mage smells like Sole Spice and not a Bole brother. I’m on a quorl.
#26
D'rek
- Consort of High House Mafia
-
- Group: Super Moderators
- Posts: 14,619
- Joined: 08-August 07
- Location::
Posted 21 February 2010 - 07:39 PM
H.D., on 21 February 2010 - 05:53 AM, said:
Harvester, on 20 February 2010 - 03:34 PM, said:
I think ice sort of replaced death in Lether. I think that's why he was associated with the aspect of death.
This is much more the reason why there is no Hold of Death in the Letherii system of Holds as opposed to Ice being mingled with Death in general.
Also, there is a difference between willful annihilation of one's essence, and having the power to NOT be annihilated. Consider those Jaghut who were pinned. They didn't want to die, but some of them might not fight it or have the power to fight it (DG, MoI Jaghut come to mind).
True, but the Jaghut that were in the FA tombs in MT willfully left their corporeal flesh to let their souls go... somewhere (Bugg doesn't say where, maybe Verdith'anath? And he does use the word souls).
worrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:
I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
