[drinksinbars]

perhaps we should try to get asd many decriptions of the cards then first as we possibly can. then draw from there.

[caladanbrood]

Here


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MAJOR SERIES SPOILERS
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High House Life
King
Queen (Queen of Dreams)
Champion
Priest
Herald
Soldier
Weaver

High House Death
King (Hood)
Queen
Knight (Once Dassem Ultor, now Baudin)
Magi
Herald
Soldier
Spinner
Mason
Virgin

High House Light
King
Queen
Champion (Osseric)
Priest
Captain
Soldier
Seamstress
Builder
Maiden

High House Dark
King
Queen
Knight (Anomander Rake)
Magi
Captain
Soldier
Weaver
Mason
Wife

High House Shadow
King (Shadowthrone/Ammanas)
Queen
Assassin (The Rope/Cotillion)
Magi
Hound (urm... the hounds)

High House of Chains
The King in Chains
The Consort (Poliel?)
Reaver (Kallor?)
Knight (Toblakai)
The Seven of the Dead Fires (The Unbound)
Cripple
Leper
Fool

Unaligned
Oponn (Oponn. Amazingly)
Obelisk (Burn)
Crown
Sceptre
Orb
Throne
Chain
Master of the Deck (Ganoes Paran)

Only a few are described in any detail. Knight of High House Dark is described in Tattersail's DoD readings in GotM, and the Master of the Deck card has probably the most known detail, it was described in both MoI and HoC...

They're all of a similar style, I would imagine, quite etheral, a figure in the centre of the card (or in one case, seven) with weird swirly stuff around the edge is how I'd always imagined them, although I would expect your artistic judgement to be better than mine. You have talent after all, which I don't

[drinksinbars]

not really i doubt all the high house dark cards are just black throughout, that would be odd, now if the was some way to draw it totally black but have it bumped to create the definition, then we could print it out on like brail paper ahahaha im a genius i say


really like shadowthrone mez good job

[Mezla PigDog]

I did a pic of Cotillion tonight using a crappy HB pencil and some scrap paper! Once I got going with my doodle, I just couldn't stop. Now my hand hurts! What does anyone think?

I like your Rake card DiB. The problem with it being shadowy is kinda funny when he's the Knight of High House Dark ......... For some reason I've always thought that Moon's Spawn would look roughly like a Walnut Whip without the nut on top! My mind works around chocolate!

I like the Hound as well Khep, I've had a few tries at them myself but I can't do dogs anatomy well enough to get their body language matching their facial expressions. If I do anything I'm willing to share, I'll stick it up.

[drinksinbars]

that looks pretty cool nice show old chap

didnt think his card got that much description so wouldnt worry about it. this decks starting to show promise

[Mezla PigDog]

You'd be shocked if there was a city inside a giant walnut whip!

I've finished my Shadowthrone card........ I really should do some work :/

[drinksinbars]

i did try that, the only problem with making it dark is you cant see anything... we arent tiste andii so therefore cant see in the dark!!!! shocking i know!!!

every variation i make which is darker, ever rake himself. well i lose any definition and all i can make out is the scaly legs and the white hair

[Mezla PigDog]

It remember doing some drawings years ago, using black paper and only highlighting the light areas with white pastel. Dragnipur would catch the light a treat.

[drinksinbars]

you know i know it says obelisk is burn in the books and all but in dhg they imply that icarum is obelisk, well i thought they meant icarum, but you know it might have been tremelor aswell. one of the unaligned and the past future and present stands still. where else is that true but in icarum?? or indeed the azath?? i for some reason thought burn was in high house life, considering caladan is almost her knight i thought she was part of a hhouse, he uses denul the healing warren sure because of his connection with her. just musing i suppose.

[caladanbrood]

OK, so I messed up merging the topics I blame the eve admin system

Here are the posts from the other topic in order...

quote:

kheprinmatu Captain Posted 11 March 2005 11:21 PM
Heheh. This is gonna be a challenge and a half. Just the way I like it. I always imagined the cards as a dark brown colour (except the picture bit) with a reasonably thick border. I too thought there would be a lot of misty/swirly stuff in the background to emphasise the 'otherwordly' feeling. Do you think the actual picture would have a painted look or would it be more... realistic? Hmmm... I'm going to have to think on this...
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Tiste Simeon Ra-Duin hoffi Cwch!! Posted 12 March 2005 04:17 PM
I also saw them being brown and almost woody around the edges. I think they are quite clear, but painted? I never saw them as painted. More, photogrph/computer imagery. But not animation. Hmm... not reall helping am I? I think the swirling is goo, but on the edges of the picture itself.


kheprinmatu Captain Posted 12 March 2005 06:06 PM
I'm not sure how the deck of dragons would have photo-realistic images on them. Obviously they are made and there is more than one deck... and they obviously dont have cameras... Hmmm... I'm not sure how I would portray that part of the card.


caladanbrood //histler Posted 12 March 2005 09:54 PM
Urm. Yeah. Painted Tiste, I'm ashamed at you, don't you remember the whole part of MoI where Silverfox paints the Master of the Deck card? Call yourself obsessed? Tsk. By the way, If you need ideas for the hound one, I thought something like this would fit quite well well, just one hound, obviously...


kheprinmatu Captain Posted 13 March 2005 11:26 PM
Well i've drawn hell hounds previously, so i've got a pretty good picture in my head, and on paper, for that card.


Tiste Simeon Ra-Duin hoffi Cwch!! Posted 13 March 2005 05:31 PM
They were cool drawings of Dogs caladan... and I know she did paint them but I always had an image of the drawings being more lifelike than paintings...


caladanbrood //histler Posted 14 March 2005 08:15 AM
I thought you might


The Amazing Guy that says Stuff The missing Segulah Second Posted 14 March 2005 10:08 AM
Well I imagined them pretty much the same as what brook did...


kheprinmatu Captain Posted 15 March 2005 04:09 PM
ok, here's a really bad quality photo of the hound picture ive started on. ive actually only got the background and frame to do before i scan it in and colour it.

Posted 15 March 2005 04:10 PM
and here's the full body version


caladanbrood //histler Posted 16 March 2005 09:19 AM
Nice


kheprinmatu Captain Posted 16 March 2005 10:38 AM
Just one thing... Should I make the eyes black, or put pupils in, or just leave them white? I cant seem to decide.


Abeleyn Binary Monk Posted 16 March 2005 10:56 AM
Nice! I would leave them white, looks a bit more supernatural and badass methinks... .............................


kheprinmatu Captain Posted 16 March 2005 02:41 PM
quote:Originally posted by Abeleyn:Nice! I would leave them white, looks a bit more supernatural and badass methinks... Ok, white it is! And of course they have to look badass!


Danforth Lieutenant Posted 18 March 2005 01:12 PM
It's said in the books the hounds have amber eyes, I don't know if that helps but you might want to think about it.


kheprinmatu Captain Posted 18 March 2005 02:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by Danforth:It's said in the books the hounds have amber eyes, I don't know if that helps but you might want to think about it. Oh yeah! I forgot about that. Silly me. Ok, i'll take that on board, and when I colour the beasty in on the PC, he/she shall have amber eyes.


caladanbrood //histler Posted 19 March 2005 04:55 PM
Yeah, but a dark amber. Don't forget, they are the hounds of shadow


kheprinmatu Captain Posted 20 March 2005 01:21 AM
Dont worry. i will definately see him on the dark side.


Drinks in Bars WroteDrunkinGutters Posted 23 March 2005 01:00 AM
heres a link to a deviant art page of mine with a hound card i drew.Hound Card


caladanbrood //histler Posted 23 March 2005 01:03 AM
urm, tis a forbidden link...


Drinks in Bars WroteDrunkinGutters Posted 23 March 2005 10:18 AM
see new link above... sorry about F*** ups


Drinks in Bars WroteDrunkinGutters Posted 23 March 2005 01:34 AM
sorry, never tried to link before, its working for me bt that must be cause i own the image.its the most recent deviantion on my deviantart pagehttp://bendoran.deviantart.com


Abeleyn Binary Monk Posted 23 March 2005 01:38 PM
Nice picture, I especially like the eyes. Just one thing, the Hound itself could be a bit bulkier imo, to better convey its power. PS: the Gunslinger skull is cool .............................


Drinks in Bars WroteDrunkinGutters Posted 23 March 2005 01:43 PM
aye i know, he looked a bit skimpier than i first intended cheers


kheprinmatu Captain Posted 24 March 2005 03:40 PM
I like! Unusual style, but i like it. I think my pup will look better though.


caladanbrood //histler Posted 24 March 2005 09:26 PM
Yes, the only critisism I would have is that it doesn't look fierce enough DiB - kheprinmatu may not like this suggestion, but it wouldn't hurt us to have more than one person helping with the deck. fancy a go? Its just, there are a lot of cards


Drinks in Bars WroteDrunkinGutters Posted 25 March 2005 09:30 AM
im always up for some - creative output

kheprinmatu Captain Posted 25 March 2005 11:36 AM
*gasp* someone else impeding on my artistic licence? Nah! I dont mind. I think I would find it a struggle to do all of them. Of course, we would have to agree as to which ones we're doing.

megaphage Sergeant Posted 29 March 2005 01:08 PM
DiB >> Nice style, looks a bit like a puppy though... needs a smaller head. Would be good to view it from ground level as well to show its opposing size and presence.


megaphage Sergeant Posted 29 March 2005 01:16 PM
Baskerville Hound!http://www.elpentagr...rlockiana75.htm


kheprinmatu Captain Posted 29 March 2005 02:43 PM
One question, guys.Which one of the hounds was the white one. I cant be bothered searching through the books to find out. Heheh. I know, lazy ol' me. I think ive decided to make the hound card, the image of the white hound, although im not too sure if that will look ok. *shrugs*


Mezla PigDog High Fist Posted 31 March 2005 12:27 AM
I've uploaded pics I did of Cotillion & Shadowthrone. Let me know what I've done wrong! If I'm stepping on anyone's toes, just let me know and I'll take them off, no probs


caladanbrood //histler Posted 01 April 2005 01:49 AM
Really nice the only comment i'd make is that the rope one isn't card shaped


Mezla PigDog High Fist Posted 01 April 2005 07:08 AM
Darn, someone noticed

caladanbrood //histler Posted 02 April 2005 01:41 AM
Having these two topics seperate is silly I'll see if I can merge them...


Yellow Invented the Internet Posted 02 April 2005 09:20 AM
POSSIBLE SPOILERS IF YOU HAVEN'T READ MTQuestion: Isn't Rhulad the King in Chains? He's not in the first post.


caladanbrood //histler Posted 03 April 2005 01:06 AM
I got the list from the back of House of Chains... so very possibly.

Once again, apologies for the almighty cock-up... and there aren't four pages in this thread, whatever it tells you

[Yellow]

What about having everything black, but with all the detail (outline, definition etc) done in subtle shades of gray?

Might look crap though.

[caladanbrood]

quote:

Originally posted by Drinks in Bars:
i did try that, the only problem with making it dark is you cant see anything... we arent tiste andii so therefore cant see in the dark!!!! shocking i know!!!

every variation i make which is darker, ever rake himself. well i lose any definition and all i can make out is the scaly legs and the white hair

Isn't that the point?

[drinksinbars]

i always thought it was more jagged, like a floating mountain, especially in GOTM saying as baruk is shocked that theres a city inside, I just sort of lifted a picture of a mountain and sliced a big chunk of it out

[caladanbrood]

Sure thing. I'll work on it... and i'm sure everyone else will too

[drinksinbars]

i use phoitoshop 7 and poser 5. i just used the description of his card, rake on his own obviously wouldnt be so shadowy

[Yellow]

I quite like the Rake card. If one half was light and one was dark, that would make me think of shadow even more

I think the darkness is just about right on Rake, but maybe increase darkness in the background? I dunno.

I agree with Mezla about moon's spawn - always saw it as a big walnut whip, but upside down (flat on top).

[drinksinbars]

well mines a really old copy, think i got it free somehwere to be honest, on an artsy mag. theres 8,9 and cs now anyway which are much better but heh what can you do.

maybe i could make up a less dark card il see what happens

[caladanbrood]

OK, re the Rake card, here's what Tattersail has to say in GotM. Selected highlights, at least

"The face remained blurred as it always did"
"...holding aloft a black two-handed sword that trailed smoky, ethereal chains drifting off into the into the background's empty darkness..." - see, dark background

Also, the shape of Moon's Spawn is only vaguely visible, and this is to an adept who's used the deck for however many years, she only just noticed it... obviously some artistic license is necessary, but hopefully that helps



Oh, and if one of you want to know, in GotM at least, the Crown card is Darujhistan. With green and blue gas light...