[PAN]

yup and something about not being able to do it again because treach was too new to his job

[Obdigore]

PAN;197262 said:

yup and something about not being able to do it again because treach was too new to his job

Treach does not have the wide base, and possibly the followers necissary to achieve the power needed to be input to the chaining by the god of war.

I wonder if each god of 'something' adds a 'link' to the chain, to prevent the CG from using that aspect... and since there is no god of chaos (that we have met yet) perhaps that is why CG is able to use Chaos and relativly little else?

[BridgeBurner]

I recall a statement somewhere (yes, I know, vague) that Togg and Fanderay took the Gods of War role because Fener was gone and Treach wasn't up to the task yet, where the CG was concerned...

[Abyss]

Yet Trake DID ascend. Just not to the God of War position. He was ID'd in TB as 'Hunter'. And even so, he invested in a Mortal Sword, followers, etc. One wonders how severely he was hurt by the loss of his Destriant/Sheild Anvil (and if indeed Heboric is now hanging in Chaur's body, whether he still holds that/those positions).

Plus, if Fener's in Leth, what DID enter Stormy when Heboric did the healing hands thing in DG? And if Stormy is a Sheild Anvil, is he Fener's? Does the link still hold power?

- Abyss, needs answers, dammit. or bacon. bacon is good. mmmmmm, bacon.

[BridgeBurner]

Abyss;197570 said:

Yet Trake DID ascend. Just not to the God of War position. He was ID'd in TB as 'Hunter'. And even so, he invested in a Mortal Sword, followers, etc. One wonders how severely he was hurt by the loss of his Destriant/Sheild Anvil (and if indeed Heboric is now hanging in Chaur's body, whether he still holds that/those positions).

Actually, I think that the recruiting of Mortal Sword/ Destriant by Treach showed how desperate he (and the war god situation) was, or how short the timeline in which he needed to be set up as God of War really was...

In both cases he rushed, and in both cases the people he 'recruited' were not happy at all about it. The caravan guy (Gruntle?) in MoI was not happy, but took the role in order to avenge Stonny. Heboric wasn't happy as well, but used his powers for his own means. Mentally, both were giving Treach the finger though.

At the same time, the process of restoring Togg was already going on. Treach may have been a (desperate) back up plan from the start, after Fener Descended.

Abyss;197570 said:

Plus, if Fener's in Leth, what DID enter Stormy when Heboric did the healing hands thing in DG? And if Stormy is a Sheild Anvil, is he Fener's? Does the link still hold power?

I still think it was some Fener essence that entered Stormy. Fener, knowing that his role as God of War was definitely over, doesn't want to challenge T&F now, especially with the CG situation going on. Gesler and Stormy may not agree there, and that's why Fener wants to be shielded from his followers. Especially since they are really close to him.

[Thelomen Toblakai]

Yeh I thought that Fener was planning on going down in one last blaze of glory.

I could see it happening that Fener doesn't come into play till the last battle against the CG (thats assuming he's against the CG) and rushing in to battle, leaving carnage in his wake, and dying gloriously.

I think he will now be preparing himself in the Eternal Domicile (sp?) for his last battle. Maybe he'll join the CG against the Wolves or Treach as a way of getting them back for jumping in his grave so quickly. (though I don't like that idea much)

[Abyss]

Y'know, it occurs to me now that the very reason Fener may have shown up on Leth when he did was because Stormy landed on the continent with the Malazan marine force. (If, in fact, he was somehow hiding in Stormy, and notwithstanding Heboric's comment it wasn't Fener who slid over when Heb healed Stormy's leg in DG. )

After all, in TB we find out Stormy is or was an SA, and something about that position entails being a 'vessel' of sorts.


- Abyss, hmmmmm.....

[BridgeBurner]

Abyss;199769 said:

Y'know, it occurs to me now that the very reason Fener may have shown up on Leth when he did was because Stormy landed on the continent with the Malazan marine force. (If, in fact, he was somehow hiding in Stormy, and notwithstanding Heboric's comment it wasn't Fener who slid over when Heb healed Stormy's leg in DG. )

After all, in TB we find out Stormy is or was an SA, and something about that position entails being a 'vessel' of sorts.


- Abyss, hmmmmm.....

I think you're on to something here.