Gut-punch books.
#41
Posted 04 June 2007 - 11:58 PM
The First Chronicles of Thomas Covenant - all three books, were definitely gut-punching, if you could get through them. Or, at least, they left you depressed and feeling morose for a while.
Oddly enough, the Chain of Dogs was sad, but not as emotionally taxing as the Icarium/Mappo story line during my first read. Not sure why. MoI-particularly Itkovian-also.
Oddly enough, the Chain of Dogs was sad, but not as emotionally taxing as the Icarium/Mappo story line during my first read. Not sure why. MoI-particularly Itkovian-also.
#42
Posted 05 June 2007 - 06:29 AM
Dolorous Menhir;190406 said:
Got to agree. The Usual Suspects is actually pretty dull, it's only well regarded because the twist makes the previous long stretch of not-very-interesting stuff seem important. It doesn't stand up to repeated viewing.
Use of Weapons is the same, but without the problem of it being mediocre without the twist. It's an excellent story with great characters, original ideas and pitch-black humour Banks always delivers. But the twist is what truly makes it great, and not in some tacky "wow I had no idea" sense, but because it really does transform everything that came before into something else. Banks has toyed with language almost invisibly throughout, and it all comes together for the reader at the end.
Use of Weapons is the same, but without the problem of it being mediocre without the twist. It's an excellent story with great characters, original ideas and pitch-black humour Banks always delivers. But the twist is what truly makes it great, and not in some tacky "wow I had no idea" sense, but because it really does transform everything that came before into something else. Banks has toyed with language almost invisibly throughout, and it all comes together for the reader at the end.
Sorry, but you think Usual Suspects was dull and mediocre without the twist? Doesn't stand up to repeated viewing? Kind of makes me disregard the rest of your post.
I guess there is no agreement to be found between us. Move along!
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#43
Posted 05 June 2007 - 03:55 PM
the twist makes the movie yellow.. without it, the way the movie is filmed doesnt work, and if it was anyone but who it was it would just be a run of the mill caper movie, especially since it wasnt like it was award quality acting or story up until that point. a movie like the departed still is solid without the ending/fallout because the story up until that point is excellent and the acting was as well, but the usual suspects was nothing particularly special until that point other than the mythological presence of "kaiser soze" eventhough the movie had a good amount of quality actors in it. so i agree with dolorous on that point

#44
Posted 08 June 2007 - 07:08 PM
Just remembered another one:
"It's Hard to be a God" by Brothers Strugatsky.
One of the greatest books I've ever read - left me all aching and emotionally beaten up in the end. It was... wow. I read it for the first time when I was about 10, and it had a heavy influence on the shaping of my world views at that time. Since then I've read it at least ten more times, and every time I discovered soomething new in it...
"It's Hard to be a God" by Brothers Strugatsky.
One of the greatest books I've ever read - left me all aching and emotionally beaten up in the end. It was... wow. I read it for the first time when I was about 10, and it had a heavy influence on the shaping of my world views at that time. Since then I've read it at least ten more times, and every time I discovered soomething new in it...
#45
Posted 08 June 2007 - 11:10 PM
Dag;192742 said:
Just remembered another one:
"It's Hard to be a God" by Brothers Strugatsky.
One of the greatest books I've ever read - left me all aching and emotionally beaten up in the end. It was... wow. I read it for the first time when I was about 10, and it had a heavy influence on the shaping of my world views at that time. Since then I've read it at least ten more times, and every time I discovered soomething new in it...
"It's Hard to be a God" by Brothers Strugatsky.
One of the greatest books I've ever read - left me all aching and emotionally beaten up in the end. It was... wow. I read it for the first time when I was about 10, and it had a heavy influence on the shaping of my world views at that time. Since then I've read it at least ten more times, and every time I discovered soomething new in it...
What language did you read it?
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#46
Posted 08 June 2007 - 11:23 PM
The Lord of the Rings
The Great Book of Amber
Tigana
The Last Light of the Sun
The Count of Monte Cristo
Ivanhoe by Walter Scott
The Mysterious Island by Jules Verne
If trilogy is counted then The Farseer Trilogy
The Great Book of Amber
Tigana
The Last Light of the Sun
The Count of Monte Cristo
Ivanhoe by Walter Scott
The Mysterious Island by Jules Verne
If trilogy is counted then The Farseer Trilogy
Only Two Things Are Infinite, The Universe and Human Stupidity, and I'm Not Sure About The Former.
Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein
#47
Posted 10 June 2007 - 04:32 PM
Red Wedding in aSoS.
Seriously, no other scene has made the rest of a book I was reading so emotionally barren.

Seriously, no other scene has made the rest of a book I was reading so emotionally barren.
#49
Posted 12 June 2007 - 03:00 PM
I just finished "The Road" by Cormac McCarthy. This is probably the most gut-punching book I've ever read. Or, maybe gut-tearing. Or something equally...uh...violent.
#50
Posted 20 June 2007 - 02:43 PM
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but King's 'Dark Tower' books were real gut punchers :eek: Don't know if they had a satisfying ending though... :confused:
#51
Posted 20 June 2007 - 02:48 PM
Deornoth
No one has mentioned because it is 7 books series, otherwise I would mention it too
What do you mean?
No one has mentioned because it is 7 books series, otherwise I would mention it too

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Don't know if they had a satisfying ending though...
What do you mean?
Only Two Things Are Infinite, The Universe and Human Stupidity, and I'm Not Sure About The Former.
Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein
#52
Posted 21 June 2007 - 03:19 PM
astra_lestat;195714 said:
Deornoth
No one has mentioned because it is 7 books series, otherwise I would mention it too
What do you mean?
No one has mentioned because it is 7 books series, otherwise I would mention it too

What do you mean?
Don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't read the last book....
Some people think the end of the last book isn't a good one *shrugs*
#53
Posted 21 June 2007 - 03:47 PM
Deornoth;195909 said:
Don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't read the last book....
Some people think the end of the last book isn't a good one *shrugs*
Some people think the end of the last book isn't a good one *shrugs*
Oh, I see. you do know it but you dont wanna say what you think about it.
Fair enough

Though you can say whether you like it not. People still don't know how it is going to end. It would be merely your opinion.
Only Two Things Are Infinite, The Universe and Human Stupidity, and I'm Not Sure About The Former.
Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein
#54
Posted 21 June 2007 - 04:36 PM
Cool, I've just got a nasty habit of dropping spoilers by accident... :Blush2:
Here goes...
I loved the 'Dark Tower' books and I think every one of them is a gut puncher. As far as the ending of book 7 goes, I thought it was satisfactory (although a lot of Dark Tower fans would disagree with me!)
Here goes...
I loved the 'Dark Tower' books and I think every one of them is a gut puncher. As far as the ending of book 7 goes, I thought it was satisfactory (although a lot of Dark Tower fans would disagree with me!)
#55
Posted 21 June 2007 - 05:52 PM
roughest part of King's the dark tower series is the death of the Billy-Bumbler, Oy. I got tears in my eyes remembering how my dog had died in a similiar fashion. I still miss that dog.
#57
Posted 22 June 2007 - 08:15 AM
Deornoth;195945 said:
I loved the 'Dark Tower' books and I think every one of them is a gut puncher. As far as the ending of book 7 goes, I thought it was satisfactory (although a lot of Dark Tower fans would disagree with me!)
I am second to it (I am not of those fans who would disagree with you!).
Only Two Things Are Infinite, The Universe and Human Stupidity, and I'm Not Sure About The Former.
Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein
#58
Posted 22 June 2007 - 08:19 PM
It's definitely a series I will always re-read
Have you read any of the comics? (Sorry, offtopic!)
