[Sa'yless Lorthal]

I had to look up the defination for cosmopolitan - free from local, provincial, or national ideas, prejudices, or attachments; at home all over the world. If Darujhistan was to have mascot, it would be Kruppe.

[Kurt Montandon]

Sa said:

I had to look up the defination for cosmopolitan - free from local, provincial, or national ideas, prejudices, or attachments; at home all over the world. If Darujhistan was to have mascot, it would be Kruppe.

Well, that's more the definition of cosmopolitan as it applies to an individual person. As to an entire city, it has more to do with being a mishmash of numerous cultures, while having its own - and being a meeting place of peoples, a junction. Kind of like New York, or San Francisco.

[pippin]

kmmontandon;178507 said:

Well, that's more the definition of cosmopolitan as it applies to an individual person. As to an entire city, it has more to do with being a mishmash of numerous cultures, while having its own - and being a meeting place of peoples, a junction. Kind of like New York, or San Francisco.

When I think of Darujhistan, I picture Bagdad about a 1000 years ago, with the acceptance of Amsterdam (30 years ago), the architectual wonders of Paris and London combined and slums like Ankh - Morpork:)

[Bottle]

I never realised this thread had any life. Thank you for the replies. On Quick Ben and Kalam looking the same, I recall Kalam's cousin from BH, (Barathol?) stating that they both came from southern tribes with onyx-black skin, (like the Southern Dal Hon) where as Quick Ben has skin like "boiled leather" (RG) which makes him a shade or two lighter then Kalam, and so I presumed Indian/Arabic as most of Seven Cities seems to be based on Arabic culture.

It seems that the Gadrobi, like the Falari and the Letherii have hair that is Ginger (red) or blonde (fair). We know this because Redmask describes the grey swords as such, and the Tenescowri were originally gadrobi farmers (I think MoI says something like that, secondly what where the similarities in the Pannion language that Evny found? Bah wish I had my books close) Stonny being ginger too, adds to this again.

So now back to my original point, I just thought with the Malazan Empire looming, that someone with ethnographic knowledge living in Darujhistan might think; "Hey those two look like they're from Seven cities, that one a falari, a barghast a little kanese girl too... all just so happen to be assimilated nations of the Malazan Empire. And wait! they're all speaking a slightly strange accent of Daru... hmmmmmm"

When I wrote that first comment to start this thread, I had slightly more faith in Erikson's realism of distributing different "ethnic" peoples. However I now know he hasn't bothered to do this at all. So my point falls flat.

It bugs me though, Yes I can accept that the spreading of fair and red haired peoples is probably the first empire's doing. Which I presume the comments made in BH about the red-haired empire that invaded Falari lands, assimilating the indigenous peoples. But now that each continent seems to have its own African-esque peoples (southern Seven cities tribes, Dal Hon, apparently southern genebackis too.) it seems that each continent has its own microcosm of ethnic variants, and I'm sorry but with Erikson's world, given the level of technology, racial migrations would have not happened to that effect.

It's the one thing that annoys me most about his World.

Oh and I will edit this for any spoilers people think this contains, but all I talk about is the appearance of different nations.

[Draconus]

Bottle;190921 said:

I never realised this thread had any life. Thank you for the replies. On Quick Ben and Kalam looking the same, I recall Kalam's cousin from BH, (Barathol?) stating that they both came from southern tribes with onyx-black skin, (like the Southern Dal Hon) where as Quick Ben has skin like "boiled leather" (RG) which makes him a shade or two lighter then Kalam, and so I presumed Indian/Arabic as most of Seven Cities seems to be based on Arabic culture.

It seems that the Gadrobi, like the Falari and the Letherii have hair that is Ginger (red) or blonde (fair). We know this because Redmask describes the grey swords as such, and the Tenescowri were originally gadrobi farmers (I think MoI says something like that, secondly what where the similarities in the Pannion language that Evny found? Bah wish I had my books close) Stonny being ginger too, adds to this again.

So now back to my original point, I just thought with the Malazan Empire looming, that someone with ethnographic knowledge living in Darujhistan might think; "Hey those two look like they're from Seven cities, that one a falari, a barghast a little kanese girl too... all just so happen to be assimilated nations of the Malazan Empire. And wait! they're all speaking a slightly strange accent of Daru... hmmmmmm"

When I wrote that first comment to start this thread, I had slightly more faith in Erikson's realism of distributing different "ethnic" peoples. However I now know he hasn't bothered to do this at all. So my point falls flat.

It bugs me though, Yes I can accept that the spreading of fair and red haired peoples is probably the first empire's doing. Which I presume the comments made in BH about the red-haired empire that invaded Falari lands, assimilating the indigenous peoples. But now that each continent seems to have its own African-esque peoples (southern Seven cities tribes, Dal Hon, apparently southern genebackis too.) it seems that each continent has its own microcosm of ethnic variants, and I'm sorry but with Erikson's world, given the level of technology, racial migrations would have not happened to that effect.

It's the one thing that annoys me most about his World.

Oh and I will edit this for any spoilers people think this contains, but all I talk about is the appearance of different nations.

It seemed to me that Darujhistan was presented as sort of a "melting-pot" city, a center of trade and mercantilism for all of Genabackis, not unlike RL cities such as Alexandria, which was populated by all manner of folks. Had the Malazans been working on a street in someplace more isolated like Mott or Coral, they would have undoubtedly drawn more attention. I never got the impression that the populations of big cities like Genobaris, Unta, Aren, and such were anything but racially diverse.