[Called-by-the-Voices]

Now- i'm halfway through the MT, and I really didn't catch that part when Silchas Ruin leads Kettle through that inverted pyramid...

First)- Why the hell did he butcher those Forkrul Assail? Cuz they believed in outward balance, while he believed in inward balance?? Confused

2)- What's that thing with Kettle being a FA soul, "The Nameless One", the Azath's protector and the child of the Eres'al...

3) Why on earth did Silchas say that he would have to destroy her? Aren't they allies?

4) Silchas mentiond that the Azath was in despair so offered itself to the "enemy" (Kettle= Forkrul Assail) Why would the FA soul be Azath's enemy. FA believe in balance, and aren't the Azaths the mere tool of achieving balance??
I even had a theory that the FA made the Azath in the first place..

Overall, please shed some light on this for me, please...:cool:

[Hume]

1) It appears that some believe the FA were too powerful as beings and needed to be killed. The Elient and Soletaken Eleint appear to have done the Job. Thats the feeling I got.

3) Because Kettle has a FA soul in her.


The FA couldnt really make the Azath as the Azath span worlds; where as the FA as far as we know are home to that world.


As to the other answers, they dont really get ansered later in the book either, you'd be best of re-reading that part to find something you may have missed.
none get answered in the Next Book Bonehunters.
Though as Reapers Gale is popularly speculated to be set on Lether, its possible such questions are better answered in that book.

[Called-by-the-Voices]

Thanx a lot... I re-read the part... And found some sense, I think Hhehehe

[MecnunK]

1. because FA were too powerful and that they fought order with chaos to achieve balance. Chaos supposedly is bad news if you take rest of the series into account. Secondly that they assumed wrongly that they had achieved inner balance and thus now concentrated on extrenal balance.. i.e. they thought they had achieved perfection of sorts within themselves and now endeavoured to turn the world into their preceived idea of balance...which probably was not a good thing for the world not to mention the conceit which may have pee'd off the draconian lot.

2. Well she has two souls apparently. One FA and one other..

3. If the FA sould fully awakens within her then it would pursue the aforementioned idea of balance + the FA soul was chosen by Azath to potentially kill Silchas after he has killed all the other prisoners.

share your own understanding but this is what I understood from those passages.

[Yasnian]

I don't like them

[Terez]

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An old man emerged from the ditch, a creature

Of mud and wild autumn winds capering

Like a hare across a bouldered field, across

And through the stillness of time unhinged

That sprawls patient and unexpectant in the

Place where battle lies spent, unmoving and

Never again moving bodies strewn and

Death-twisted like lost languages tracking

Contorted glyphs on a barrow door, and he

Read well the aftermath, the disarticulated script

Rent and dissolute the pillars of self toppled

Like termite towers all spilled out round his

Dancing feet, and he shouted in gleeful

Revelation the truth he’d found, in these

Red-fleshed pronouncements - ‘There is peace!’

He shrieked. ‘There is peace!’ and it was

No difficult thing, where I sat in the saddle

Above salt-rimed horseflesh to lift my crossbow

Aim and loose the quarrel, skewering the madman

To his proclamation. ‘Now,’ said I, in the

Silence that followed, ‘Now, there is peace.’


The Lay of Skinner Fisher kel Tath

Yeah, that was random.

[Called-by-the-Voices]

Iirc, Kettle is the child of Trull and the Eres'al.... I just don't know where she's got that Forkrul Assail soul from.... :-s

[Dolorous Menhir]

The dead FA that Udinaas saw in a vision. Its head had been bashed in and the footprints seemed to be the Eres'al's.

Rud & Shurq have the same surname, but no known link. Perhaps Shurq is of Meckros background (Rud's adoptive parents were Meckros).

Oh, and Rud Ellale is definitely the son of Udinaas and Menandore. The swift growth is explained by his Soletaken nature, not time-travel on Menandore's part (though the duration of the pregnancy, is that an issue?). Soletaken what though? Dragon?

[Dolorous Menhir]

Hetan;161009 said:

His adopted parents were letherii indebted and not Meckros at all so there very well could be a connection.

of course! ... that is pretty much a foregone conclusion from MT when the Imass ask Udinaas what dragons eat when they are grown.. and it is in reference to Rud.

Sorry, forgot those parts. Rud's adoptive parents did live with the Meckros though right?

The FA soul in Kettle seems to be inactive, I remember someone (the Ceda?) being concerned that the FA soul would awaken and get down to some serious killing. Which suggests it's not a straightforward possession.

[Dolorous Menhir]

T said:

Which is why I compared it with Silverfox, with the whole issue of several souls contained inside one body, each one attempting to struggle to the surface. The FA soul kind of mirrors the situation with Nightchill, when everyone hoped she would stay dormant and Tattersail would remain the 'main' benign soul.

I don't think it's a good comparison. For lack of a better word, the FA soul in Kettle is "off". It doesn't do anything.

Whereas the souls of Silverfox are all present and active, however they seem to be in some kind of partnership. It's not a case of one being in control and the others shut out. Tattersail seems to be the primary (not dominant) one, with Nightchill not doing very much. Bellurdan has only been glimpsed once, and that's not for sure (the Mhybe remarked on it) and have we ever seen the soul of Pran Chole's daughter do anything?

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Hehe there is some mention of the Meckros there to do with Rud's adoptive parents. Wasn't he found in a destroyed Meckros city, or something?

I think they were former Letherii indebted who lived on a Meckros city that got destroyed, leaving Rud the only survivor. The same destroyed Meckros city that Lanas Tog was found on in MoI?

[Dark Mac]

T said:

Which is why I compared it with Silverfox, with the whole issue of several souls contained inside one body, each one attempting to struggle to the surface. The FA soul kind of mirrors the situation with Nightchill, when everyone hoped she would stay dormant and Tattersail would remain the 'main' benign soul.

It seems more similar to Icarium to me, if you think of Icarium as having a normal happy self and a crazy destroy everything self. It could just be that Icarium's soul has been broken in two.

[Aptorian]

Dark Mac;161117 said:

It seems more similar to Icarium to me, if you think of Icarium as having a normal happy self and a crazy destroy everything self. It could just be that Icarium's soul has been broken in two.

Ah but I think you're underestimating Nightchill. The Malazan Empire just new her as a human mage while she denied her Elder God side. As it's said, Elder Gods embody a host of unpleasantries... Some of them being death and destruction and the swimming in blood

[Dolorous Menhir]

Must be two different Meckros cities destroyed. Or three, if Withal's, Rud's and the MoI one are all different ones.