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Telorast and Curdle

#1 User is offline   tjc52 

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Posted 24 April 2006 - 12:48 PM

At the end of the book, when Apsalar leaves the service of Shadow, and during her mini-war thoguh Malaz City against the Claw, does anyone know what happens to Telorast and Curdle. They're agents of Edgewalker, but now that Apsalar has left Shadow, what are they going to do? for that matter, are they still with Apsalar?
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 01:12 PM

unknown.. unmentioned.. they are still probably hanging around keeping an eye on her and basically wandering around in lizard bones
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 01:55 PM

They are still on the ship, no?
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 03:55 PM

I tend to agree with fan. They could go travel shadow - see how they showed up at the Poliel temple, surprising Apsalar. They are probably still watching her for Edgy.

I liked these two - not as outright comic relief as Tehol/Bugg in MT, but fun, interesting, and in trademark SE fashion, they kept dropping (or being the soruce) of interesting information.

And i STILL giggle when i picture the two little skeletons hissing at five Hounds and making them pause.


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Posted 24 April 2006 - 04:48 PM

yeah.. 2 piles of moving bones gives hounds the crap... absolutely hialrious..

i mean your standard person would jsut try to stomp on them
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 08:45 PM

I love what SE's done with Telorast & Curdle, and I have to think they're still tagging along with Apsalar, she's always gonna be involved in something dangerous and that's fun for them, the thing I like about them is that they give personalities to these dragons, and though they may be (seem) a bit crazy, is it just an act, some of it anyway, b/c they know a lot more than they're telling but dropping little bits here and there like about the throne and the other creatures in starvald, and if Bottle can see they true nature, how surprised were the hounds, that was great
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 08:49 PM

So Kallor was afraid of them, and it's later verified they are dragons. What business do you think Kallor had with two dragons?
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Posted 25 April 2006 - 02:42 AM

Something EVIL, no doubt. And while Kallor may have been afraid of them, it could be just their boasting. Maybe.
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Posted 25 April 2006 - 02:48 AM

I too really liked the characters of Telorast and Curdle. They seemed so eccentric and understated. Not what I expected the dragons to be like at all.
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Posted 25 April 2006 - 07:57 AM

Dolorous Menhir said:

So Kallor was afraid of them, and it's later verified they are dragons. What business do you think Kallor had with two dragons?


Kallor appeared in TBH ??? Where the hell is he this *bip of censure that will last for some minutes...*.
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Posted 25 April 2006 - 08:52 AM

He didn't. Telorast and Curdle just mention that even Kallor was afraid of them.
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Posted 25 April 2006 - 12:50 PM

I wonder if either one of them is linked to the dragons that Cotillion sees chained at the edges of Shadow realm ... when Edgewalker first makes his appearance.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 01:58 PM

Two thoughts:

- they are ghosts, and while able to possess things, they don't seem THAT powerful. The scaring the Hounds thing probably had more to do with dragon aura, scent or something, than actual power (altho Apsalar speculated one of them could have possessed Urko's T-rex skeleton, and theeeeennnnn...

- it seems all dragons are linked, if only thru SD, but these two appear to have been ghosts for a VERY long time, and inhabitted a series of bodies. I don't think their eccentricity was an act. I do think that like Pust, Kruppe and Kettle, they are effective in spite of their eccentricities - a fact Edgy recognized and made use of.


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Posted 25 April 2006 - 02:14 PM

Is it a t-rex or a dragon?
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Posted 25 April 2006 - 02:39 PM

I figured people would recognize a dragon skeleton. The description, huge skull, long tail, small forelimbs, certainly suggested 'dinosaur' to me.

It's either that, or one MOTHER of a kchain chemalle.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 02:46 PM

Dark Mac said:

He didn't. Telorast and Curdle just mention that even Kallor was afraid of them.


Sorry for the confusion, it's like Dark Mac says. At one point during their babbling, Telorast & Curdle say that even Kallor feared them. That's as far as it goes, not sure if Apsalar even heard it. (Does Apsalar know who Kallor is? I suppose one of the soldiers in tBH must have told her at some point that WJ was dead, though I don't remember such a scene)

I took it to mean they were part of the mage circle that originally brought down the CG - the only enemies of Kallor we know of that weren't Elder Gods, and are most definitely dead - but the dragon comment later in the book disproved that.
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Posted 26 April 2006 - 12:54 PM

But who were telorast and curdle? Icarium's reaction to finding out that Sorrit was dead speaks volumes of the importance of dragons. And it seems Rake imprisoned the 3 dragons in shadow to stop them from getting themselves killed trying to heal Emurlahn, so it's important for eleint to survive. If T&C are both dead what warrens are affected or gone?

Of course they might not be dead, just without bodies ala Scabby.
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Posted 26 April 2006 - 01:18 PM

Do all the dragons are aspected ? may only a few of them...
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Posted 26 April 2006 - 01:51 PM

All. They might not have an aspect to themselves - Osric and Sorrit shared serc - but they are all aspected.
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Posted 26 April 2006 - 02:18 PM

And apprently Krul had something to do with that.

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