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Just re-reading Mt and i came to the end and found one of my favourite quotes ....probably my favourite end to any of the books and it was Bugg saying:
'But for now I am going to beat a god senseless' when he is going to "stick the heed" into the CP..
ahhh good times.......wait but if he can do that why havnt we seen him during the pannion wars? surley bugg shoudve interfferred there as well? if he's done it before can he do it again?
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 09:54 AM
Black Cloaked Pug said:
Just re-reading Mt and i came to the end and found one of my favourite quotes ....probably my favourite end to any of the books and it was Bugg saying:
'But for now I am going to beat a god senseless' when he is going to "stick the heed" into the CP..
ahhh good times.......wait but if he can do that why havnt we seen him during the pannion wars? surley bugg shoudve interfferred there as well? if he's done it before can he do it again?
'But for now I am going to beat a god senseless' when he is going to "stick the heed" into the CP..
ahhh good times.......wait but if he can do that why havnt we seen him during the pannion wars? surley bugg shoudve interfferred there as well? if he's done it before can he do it again?
Yes, that was a great line. As to your question about Meal not helping durring the Pannion wars. Well i get the feeling he doesnt want to be a part of the "game" anymore.
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 10:47 AM
I think Mael's only motivation was to get a bit of vengeance for Tehol.
he's been around so long he really doesn't seem to care about anything else, even his own realm. we probably won't see him joined the forces allied against the CG unless Tehol convinces him too/almost dies again.
he's been around so long he really doesn't seem to care about anything else, even his own realm. we probably won't see him joined the forces allied against the CG unless Tehol convinces him too/almost dies again.
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Posted 19 February 2006 - 12:05 AM
Dolorous Menhir said:
I think Mael's only motivation was to get a bit of vengeance for Tehol.
he's been around so long he really doesn't seem to care about anything else, even his own realm. we probably won't see him joined the forces allied against the CG unless Tehol convinces him too/almost dies again.
he's been around so long he really doesn't seem to care about anything else, even his own realm. we probably won't see him joined the forces allied against the CG unless Tehol convinces him too/almost dies again.
He has joined the forces allied against the CG. Or is, at least, working with and for someone who is plotting to thwart the CG by financially ruining the Edur empire, even if Tehol isn't aware of the CG. And Bugg probably tells him at some stage anyway, if only to admire what Tehol's brain will make of the situation.
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Posted 19 February 2006 - 01:54 PM
And Pust!!!!!
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Posted 19 February 2006 - 10:27 PM
damn it he'll probably kill him with buggs cooking of and i quote " what looks like an eel"- very dodgy stuff
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Posted 05 March 2006 - 12:42 AM
here's a few of my fave Buggisms
"Well they're trousers for every season"
Shurq Elalle "Is that You ?"
Bugg "Yes it is"
"Well they're trousers for every season"
Shurq Elalle "Is that You ?"
Bugg "Yes it is"
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Posted 05 March 2006 - 02:05 AM
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I really hope the climax of the tenth book is a witty conversation between Tehol and the Crippled God wherein Tehol emerges triumphant.
tehol and kruppe (and also pust) perhaps.
but the crippled god is about as bright as karsa orlong.
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Posted 05 March 2006 - 11:08 AM
the CG seems to be both very very intelligent and shrew to levels far beyond what's human... Why would you compare him to Karsa in that regard? Karsa is by no means stupid, but the CG is far beyond him.. ..Basis?...
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Posted 05 March 2006 - 10:01 PM
He's manipulative and powerful, but I'm not convinced he's very, very intelligent myself. No more so than the average Ascendant. His conversations with Withal actually show a narrow mindedness that I for one do not equate with high intelligence.
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Posted 05 March 2006 - 10:44 PM
I have the impression that both Karsa en the CG are thickheads...
Their talents lay elsewhere.... bugg on the contrary
Their talents lay elsewhere.... bugg on the contrary
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Posted 05 March 2006 - 11:06 PM
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I have the impression that both Karsa en the CG are thickheads...
Their talents lay elsewhere.... bugg on the contrary
Their talents lay elsewhere.... bugg on the contrary
I agree with you and bc7
Mael is an intelligent god, but clearly he is drawn to Tehol because of Tehol's sheer intellectual abilities. I don't know if Elder Gods have a propensity for this: Krull adopts Kruppe because of his phenominal intellectual ability...
Perhaps Mr Erikson is making the point that when you live long enough (or get old enough) you tend to 'go for' brains rather than beauty.
But then I'm physically stunning so I think that's all rubbish!
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Posted 05 March 2006 - 11:48 PM
Nobody really ... said:
Mael is an intelligent god, but clearly he is drawn to Tehol because of Tehol's sheer intellectual abilities. I don't know if Elder Gods have a propensity for this: Krull adopts Kruppe because of his phenominal intellectual ability...
Perhaps Mr Erikson is making the point that when you live long enough (or get old enough) you tend to 'go for' brains rather than beauty.
Perhaps Mr Erikson is making the point that when you live long enough (or get old enough) you tend to 'go for' brains rather than beauty.
This is a good point. I also think that Erikson shows in Cottilion and Shadowthrone that recent Ascendants of the cunning Human kind are a power to reckon with. In fact I suggest that Intelligence and not Magic will win the day.
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Posted 06 March 2006 - 01:03 AM
There is (isn't there?) a running theme which respects intelligence.
Shadowthrone was once just a pub owner. Cotillion just a thief. The Empress Laseen just a barmaid. Quick Ben was just a very minor wizard before his cunning opportunism in rakaru.
It was their intelligence which made them great
Mr Erikson seems to be supporting socrates' example with the slave boy. does he not?
Shadowthrone was once just a pub owner. Cotillion just a thief. The Empress Laseen just a barmaid. Quick Ben was just a very minor wizard before his cunning opportunism in rakaru.
It was their intelligence which made them great
Mr Erikson seems to be supporting socrates' example with the slave boy. does he not?
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Posted 13 March 2006 - 09:47 PM
Inherent unknowing intelligence ? IOW it's all in there, it just needs teasing out as circumstance dictates. Or perhaps Erikson just likes the self-made, self reliant sort. Free from divine influence or patrimony ?
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Posted 14 March 2006 - 05:22 PM
I think that you can always be a powerfull entity, if you are against an extreme intelligent personne, you'll stand not a chance.
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Posted 15 March 2006 - 02:21 AM
You attribute thick closed-mindedness to the Crippled God only because he makes assertions that are difficult to contemplate, and easy to dismiss. But he makes good points. World War II brought many countries into prosperity, from one of history's most miserable states.
Here's a grim truth that people will have a hard time accepting, and will eagerly dismiss, but consider this: In the books later than Midnight Tides (later than that particular scene), like MoI or HoC, we haven't seen any interference or intervention by Mael, but we've seen plenty of the Crippled God. What does that tell you about the outcome of the aforementioned scene?
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ahhh good times.......wait but if he can do that why havnt we seen him during the pannion wars? surley bugg shoudve interfferred there as well? if he's done it before can he do it again?
Here's a grim truth that people will have a hard time accepting, and will eagerly dismiss, but consider this: In the books later than Midnight Tides (later than that particular scene), like MoI or HoC, we haven't seen any interference or intervention by Mael, but we've seen plenty of the Crippled God. What does that tell you about the outcome of the aforementioned scene?
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Posted 15 March 2006 - 03:53 AM
That the CG is even more pissed off, and that Mael continues to not care, even when [BONEHUNTERS SPOILERS], and there's not a thing he can do? We need to learn more about Mael (not Bugg) before we can gauge what kind of power he has.
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