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Posted 13 January 2006 - 02:45 AM

I forgot, are the warrens still tainted by the Crippled God at the end of HoC? For some reason I'm thinking they aren't, but I can't remember why.
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Posted 13 January 2006 - 02:58 AM

The infection began to wear off towards the end of House of Chains, iirc. Can't tell you why as I don't really remember. But at the start yes the warrens were still infected and then as the book progressed the infection wore off
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Posted 13 January 2006 - 08:02 AM

really? :Erm:
I thought the infection was still there, but slowed down?
Wasn't that the whole point of what QB did with the Pannion Seer?
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Posted 13 January 2006 - 11:38 AM

Erm... HoC? If you remember, towards the end of HoC (not right at the end - way before Tavores army gets there...) Sha'ik and her generals, mages etc. find out what happened on Genebackis, and that Dujek and his army are coming over to Seven Cities to help Tavore. Remember Korbolo Dom crowing over the fact that Whiskeyjack et al. died?
This would mean that QB has done his thing with the Pannion Seer already, and become a high mage.
Thus, the infection has been stopped by the end of HoC!
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Posted 13 January 2006 - 06:08 PM

The infection of the warrens was localised to the pannion seerdom, and never reached 7 cities, and as far as I'm aware emanated directly through the pannion seer, (the CG would need a strong warren user to access all the warrens), with the defeat of the seerdom the infection subsided.

The CG's infection of burn was seperate and was slowed by QB at the end of HoC, if burn had been infected enough that teh CG could reach through her to the warrens direct the infection of the warrens would have spread throughout the world entire.
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Posted 13 January 2006 - 07:14 PM

But didn't Sormo have difficulties with his warren too? He said so. I assumed this was because of the CG/Burn thing, which meant it was a global thing (i.e., he was in Seven Cities at the time). Unless I'm crossing my wires and it was due to the Path of the Hand ruse flooding the warrens with soletaken and diivers.....
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Posted 15 January 2006 - 04:15 PM

If I remember right warrens in seven cities were indeed inaccessable by Sormo/Kamist Reloe due to the flood of soletaken and d'ivers following the path of hands.
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Posted 25 January 2006 - 05:36 AM

I thought that the soletaken or divers could have affected it, but what if it was the fact the paran legitimised the house of chains, could this have reduced the crippled gods effects on the warrens as he was now part of the game?
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Posted 29 March 2006 - 05:28 PM

I had thought a combination of Paran recog'ing the HoC, QB sticking the Jaghut in Burn's warren and the removal of the Seer as a tool of the CG had stopped the infection from all warren's but Burn's, bcs the CG is chained to her.

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 09:37 PM

Lol, I thought the infection was global too, seeing as the infection was in that of Burn and such is the significance of the "character" how could it be localised?

I may have gotten myself in a complete twist too, but I cannot see that the infection has ceased, how can it be stopped if its source is the Crippled God. Surely to stop an infection you kill it at the "root" i.e.CG.

I had always taken that the infection was still present in HoC, yet it had taken a "back seat" to the plot. Thus the severe lack of magery in the HoC compared with the other books before the ermergence of the CG and his infection.
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Posted 20 April 2006 - 11:55 PM

How about the central point of the infection is the CG's wandering warren, which is in Genabackis at that time?
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Posted 21 April 2006 - 01:09 AM

Agreed with Illuyankas. The CG is wandering and during the time of the infection in MoI his strongest influence was in the Domin and thats where the infection was the strongest, as mentioned by K'rul himself.

the infection was present, just not as strong in 7C's that's all. the CG is pretty far from its location, plus with the defeat of the Dommin i think it slowed the infection a bit
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