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#6201 User is online   QuickTidal 

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 01:48 PM

View PostEnd of Disc One, on 01 March 2011 - 01:36 PM, said:

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View PostQuickTidal, on 01 March 2011 - 01:07 PM, said:

Still reading TOWERS OF MIDNIGHT because.....hey guess what....THE CRIPPLEd GOD...STILL NOT HERE!!!!

Mother*%&#@^*@*$

Arg!! Scott smash!!

ToM is pretty damn good though.


I just finished TOM and am impressed, though I expected to be again after tGS. Looking forward to a Memory of Light. This final 'trilogy' is shaping up to end WOT on a high note. Roll on the last battle...

Also tCG... STILL NOT HERE... EITHER!!!

Not sure what to read next...


You read way too fast.



Haha, I was gonna say. I'm not even halfway through ToM and I think we started it around the same time. Lol
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 02:02 PM

Starting up TCG...hum strange feeling...

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 02:21 PM

View PostBombur, on 01 March 2011 - 01:23 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 01 March 2011 - 01:07 PM, said:

....THE CRIPPLEd GOD...STILL NOT HERE!!!!

Mother*%&#@^*@*$

Arg!! Scott smash!!
...

... tCG... STILL NOT HERE... EITHER!!!

Not sure what to read next...


Oh, don't be too torn up... TCG isn't THAT awesome.

Oh, who am i kidding, it totally is...


@Bombur - have we hooked you on the Dresdencrack yet? or the CoCaine?
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 02:42 PM

I was going to say, I don't recall seeing Bombur in the Dresden topics. That is a requirement if you wish to post in the Other Literature forum.

I still need to get around to CoCaine...
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 02:53 PM

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View PostT77, on 28 February 2011 - 03:10 PM, said:

Finished Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson, this was my first book by him. I thought it was very meh, it just didn't do it for me. Everything about it was just very average and I was not that impressed with his writing. Normally I would stop reading a book that doesn't draw me in by the halfway point, but seeing all the praise for this guy I trudged on. Unless I hear it gets much better from here I don't think I will be continuing with th series.


Since you thought Mistborn was meh, my advice is DO NOT read book two!

I wasn't that impressed by the mistborn series. I sort of enjoyed the first book, decent overall and good in parts but not spectacular. But the second book was pretty bad. Nothing much happens for hundreds of pages... a bunch of armies sitting around looking at each-other, wondering (along with the reader) when the action will begin. Only the last 100 or so pages are interesting. The third book is better, not quite as good as the first, but decent. Still, I wish I hadn't bothered with the series. There are better things to read. My only consolation is I got a boxed-set of all three volumes for $20NZ - and each is sold separately for around $25NZ.

I didn't really care for Sanderson's writing style in mistborn either. Though I thought the blend between his style and Jordan's in The Gathering Storm was an improvement over both and quite good. I'd say that Jordan is the better writer, so trying to emulate him improved Sanderson, and Sanderson's faster paced story-telling improved Jordan.

Mistborn has the dubious distinction of being the only fantasy I've read over the past couple of years that I couldn't lose myself in. I think this might be because Sanderson info dumps a lot and explains his character's thoughts on what they're doing in too much detail. I found that a bit jarring, like I kept being plucked out of the story so Sanderson could make it absolutely abdundantly clear what was happening.

Though considering that over this same two year period I've mainly been reading classics like the book of the new sun, lyonesse, and the chronicles of amber, plus malazan and ASOI&F with a sprinkling of gemmel and pratchett, it's probably not surprising mistborn came out the worst. Oh scratch that - I just remembered I read Dragonlance a few months ago - that was fucking awful. Mistborn beats it by miles.


Thanks! Chances were slim that I was going to continue with the series, but seeing that you felt as I did I will not read the last 2 books. Like you I have been reading the New/Long Sun, Malazan as well as The Black Company and compared to that it is so inferior IMO. It felt like cookie cutter fantasy with average writing. I read the first WoT book and thought it was pretty good and will eventually go back and finish that, especially since Jordan wrote most of it.
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 10:22 PM

Just finished Solaris by Stanislaw Lem - excellent novel, and thought-provoking.

Now halfway through Perdido Street Station by China Mievelle. I like it so far, but I'm waiting to see how it turns of before committing myself to the Scar.

Also, just received Guy Gavriel Kay's Tigana in the mail as well as Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell. I'm not sure which one I should tackle first.
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 10:44 PM

View PostHoodsPath, on 01 March 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:

...Now halfway through Perdido Street Station by China Mievelle. I like it so far, but I'm waiting to see how it turns of before committing myself to the Scar....


Just my nsho, but if you even slightly like Perdido, try THE SCAR. It's a VERY different book from Perdido.
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 11:03 PM

View PostAbyss, on 01 March 2011 - 10:44 PM, said:

View PostHoodsPath, on 01 March 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:

...Now halfway through Perdido Street Station by China Mievelle. I like it so far, but I'm waiting to see how it turns of before committing myself to the Scar....


Just my nsho, but if you even slightly like Perdido, try THE SCAR. It's a VERY different book from Perdido.


Also my 2 cents: even if you don't like PSS go for The Scar, it's on a completely different level. Not that PSS is bad.
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 12:16 AM

got home.

looked in mailbox.

empty.


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Posted 02 March 2011 - 12:18 AM

View PostQuickTidal, on 02 March 2011 - 12:16 AM, said:

got home.

looked in mailbox.

empty.


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That sucks man sorry to hear that hopefully it will show up tomorrow. I picked my copy up at the bookstore this morning so I just got started into a few pages because of work. I had a little over a hundred pages to go in Stonewielder but I couldn't resist TCG so I'll read that, finish SW and then re-read TCG again after that.
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 01:43 AM

View PostHoodsPath, on 01 March 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:

Just finished Solaris by Stanislaw Lem - excellent novel, and thought-provoking.

Now halfway through Perdido Street Station by China Mievelle. I like it so far, but I'm waiting to see how it turns of before committing myself to the Scar.

Also, just received Guy Gavriel Kay's Tigana in the mail as well as Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell. I'm not sure which one I should tackle first.

Norrell is dense and takes a long while to get going. also, the style is ... peculiar. you either like it or you don't .

I love GKKay, but Tigana, despite all the critical praise, I found to be one of his weaker works (have not read the last book he wrote yet, htough)

and yes, the Scar is quite different from PSS. though out of all the Bas-Lag books, i'm in the minority that found Iron Council to be simply amazing.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 02:13 AM

View PostT77, on 01 March 2011 - 02:53 PM, said:

View PostBombur, on 28 February 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

View PostT77, on 28 February 2011 - 03:10 PM, said:

Finished Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson, this was my first book by him. I thought it was very meh, it just didn't do it for me. Everything about it was just very average and I was not that impressed with his writing. Normally I would stop reading a book that doesn't draw me in by the halfway point, but seeing all the praise for this guy I trudged on. Unless I hear it gets much better from here I don't think I will be continuing with th series.


Since you thought Mistborn was meh, my advice is DO NOT read book two!

I wasn't that impressed by the mistborn series. I sort of enjoyed the first book, decent overall and good in parts but not spectacular. But the second book was pretty bad. Nothing much happens for hundreds of pages... a bunch of armies sitting around looking at each-other, wondering (along with the reader) when the action will begin. Only the last 100 or so pages are interesting. The third book is better, not quite as good as the first, but decent. Still, I wish I hadn't bothered with the series. There are better things to read. My only consolation is I got a boxed-set of all three volumes for $20NZ - and each is sold separately for around $25NZ.

I didn't really care for Sanderson's writing style in mistborn either. Though I thought the blend between his style and Jordan's in The Gathering Storm was an improvement over both and quite good. I'd say that Jordan is the better writer, so trying to emulate him improved Sanderson, and Sanderson's faster paced story-telling improved Jordan.

Mistborn has the dubious distinction of being the only fantasy I've read over the past couple of years that I couldn't lose myself in. I think this might be because Sanderson info dumps a lot and explains his character's thoughts on what they're doing in too much detail. I found that a bit jarring, like I kept being plucked out of the story so Sanderson could make it absolutely abdundantly clear what was happening.

Though considering that over this same two year period I've mainly been reading classics like the book of the new sun, lyonesse, and the chronicles of amber, plus malazan and ASOI&F with a sprinkling of gemmel and pratchett, it's probably not surprising mistborn came out the worst. Oh scratch that - I just remembered I read Dragonlance a few months ago - that was fucking awful. Mistborn beats it by miles.


Thanks! Chances were slim that I was going to continue with the series, but seeing that you felt as I did I will not read the last 2 books. Like you I have been reading the New/Long Sun, Malazan as well as The Black Company and compared to that it is so inferior IMO. It felt like cookie cutter fantasy with average writing. I read the first WoT book and thought it was pretty good and will eventually go back and finish that, especially since Jordan wrote most of it.





Be encouraged that Sanderson's WOT books have been damn good. My hat goes off to him for that. A brilliant achievement really, considering he is finishing off someone else's super famous epic fantasy series.

Actually, the problem with WOT isn't with Sanderson, but with Jordon.

The thing about WOT (well for the majority of readers): it's really great till after book 6 (Lord of Chaos), but from thereon in Jordan gets bogged down in too much detail. Arcs that should have been wrapped up quickly drag on forever, and less and less seems to happen. Despite this, books seven, nine and eleven are still decent reads (some really cool stuff in 9 especially, and eleven ties up all those tedious arcs that should have ended books ago), but disappointing compared to the earlier ones. Eight made me almost bored with the series, so much so that it was some years before I bothered with 9. The real trough though is with book Ten. Ten is possibly the worst fantasy novel I've ever read. Nothing happens in it. NOTHING.

The wikipedia plot summary for book 10 goes something like:
- character X continues doing something he started doing in the last book, but doesn't finish doing it, and in fact makes almost no headway. Actually, he joins the circus.
- character Y: see X
- character Z: see X

Rand is just about completely absent from the book. Probably he got bored too and went off to do something more interesting, like water his garden.

Then (after book 11) Sanderson came along with book 12 and seriously got the story moving again. Sanderson's books 12 and 13 both blew me away. Anyway, when you continue with WOT, and find yourself despairing with book 10 just be encouraged that it does get good again.
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 03:49 AM

View PostAbyss, on 01 March 2011 - 02:21 PM, said:

View PostBombur, on 01 March 2011 - 01:23 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 01 March 2011 - 01:07 PM, said:

....THE CRIPPLEd GOD...STILL NOT HERE!!!!

Mother*%&#@^*@*$

Arg!! Scott smash!!
...

... tCG... STILL NOT HERE... EITHER!!!

Not sure what to read next...


Oh, don't be too torn up... TCG isn't THAT awesome.

Oh, who am i kidding, it totally is...


@Bombur - have we hooked you on the Dresdencrack yet? or the CoCaine?


I've not read Dresden. Have seen some of the TV series, does that count?

And what's the CoCaine?
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 03:58 AM

CoCaine is Matthew Stover's Acts of Caine series, which are dragonfucknuts awesome.
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 04:47 AM

View PostMTS, on 02 March 2011 - 03:58 AM, said:

CoCaine is Matthew Stover's Acts of Caine series, which are dragonfucknuts awesome.


Dragonfucknuts eh. The best sort of fucknuts. Checking it out in wikipedia and amazon.
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 04:59 AM

View PostBombur, on 02 March 2011 - 04:47 AM, said:

Dragonfucknuts eh. The best sort of fucknuts. Checking it out in wikipedia and amazon.

We are making you buy a ton of books. To cover all bases and basically ensure that you have a ridiculous stack of books to go through:

1) Dresden Files (must get all)
2) The Acts of Caine books (must get all - but Blade of Tyshalle is like fucking impossible to find for a decent price. May have to go find the ebook)
3) Blindsight (which can actually be read online for free [I bought the book after reading it and then gave it to my little brother - it's that damn good] link is here: http://www.rifters.c.../Blindsight.htm)
4) Codex Alera (must get all - may not thrill at first, but gets very, very fun to read)
5) The China Mieville books (start with Kraken, then go to Perdido Street Station, The Scar, Iron Council, The City & The City and Un-Lun-Dun; there's others, but not quite as essential as these. I <3 binjas.)

Good luck, Bombur.

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 04:59 AM

Someone is using a "Summon Terez" spell in here. Let's see how long it takes....

:unsure:
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 05:35 AM

View Postamphibian, on 02 March 2011 - 04:59 AM, said:

View PostBombur, on 02 March 2011 - 04:47 AM, said:

Dragonfucknuts eh. The best sort of fucknuts. Checking it out in wikipedia and amazon.

We are making you buy a ton of books. To cover all bases and basically ensure that you have a ridiculous stack of books to go through:

1) Dresden Files (must get all)
2) The Acts of Caine books (must get all - but Blade of Tyshalle is like fucking impossible to find for a decent price. May have to go find the ebook)
3) Blindsight (which can actually be read online for free [I bought the book after reading it and then gave it to my little brother - it's that damn good] link is here: http://www.rifters.c.../Blindsight.htm)
4) Codex Alera (must get all - may not thrill at first, but gets very, very fun to read)
5) The China Mieville books (start with Kraken, then go to Perdido Street Station, The Scar, Iron Council, The City & The City and Un-Lun-Dun; there's others, but not quite as essential as these. I <3 binjas.)

Good luck, Bombur.

Oh, and if you want a laugh, read the Evil Chicken section of the Goodkind books. Easily a few dozen laughs.


Lol thanks for that list, that is a tonne of books. I've been interested in Mieville for a while, so I'll definitely check him out. I'll have to read Dresden too, considering how it seems everyone on these forums loves it.

I think I'll read Dresden and Mievile together or in succession, since they're both urban fantasy... or at least I think Mieville is. I've read very little urban fantasy, so I'm looking forward to that.

First though I'm going to read tCG, Gormenghast Trilogy and The Worm Ouroboros. If they ever actually arrive that is.

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 05:40 AM

Dresden and Mieville are about as similar as Erikson and Lord of the Rings.

*brings in huge drum, starts repeatedly banging it

Dresden!
Dresden!
Dresden!
Dresden!
Muadhib!
Dresden!
Dresden!

Currently reading Way of Kings by Sanderson and am slowly getting into it. Have Wise Man's Fear 3 feet away. Placed a voodoo curse on Tor and Border's for the ZERO hardbacks of TCG, and universal acknowledgment that nobody has a fucking clue what is going on with it.
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 06:25 AM

Mieville has one book that can be seen as "urbabn fantasy"... in a majorly "new Weird" setting.

Dresden, otoh, is pure urban fantasy goodness.

I would also suggest Sergey Lukyanenko's "watch" books, starting with "Night watch", if you're into Urban fantasy.

also, for the record: I have only read the one Alera book so far, but I wasn't too impressed. volume 2 is sitting somewhere in my bookshelf, far down the mental TBR pile.

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And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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