[MTS]

All these Stonewielder posts are depressing.

[Aptorian]

Would it help if I told you that half way through Stonewielder is appearing to be ten times as solid a story as Return of the Crimson Guard was? All my doubts about Esslemont has disappeared while reading Stonewielder.

So gooooood.

[Astra]

Yellow, on 06 December 2010 - 08:12 AM, said:

Finished Before They Are Hanged. My opinion of the series hasn't changed, unfortunately. Good writing, boring story.

This is the major fault of The First Law. It doesn't change, doesn't progress. It is the same.
Maybe Abercrombie intended it to be that way, I don't know...

[MTS]

Well, I finished Hyperion, and fuck me, I can see why it won the Hugo Award. It was awesome.

Moving eagerly onto Fall of Hyperion. Hopefully it can tide me over until I get my grubby hands on Stonewielder. Hopefully.

And damn you Apt, that doesn't help at all.

[QuickTidal]

Gods dammit!

I hate that Chapters/Indigo in Canada has issues getting books out on their release date. I've been all over Toronto and I can't get my hands on Stonewielder. Fuck! Arg!

[Bauchelain the Evil]

Re-read The Scar by Mieville. Enjoyed it even more now that I've read Perdido Street Station and can understand more of the world and catch the various references.

[Dutch]

Gothos, on 06 December 2010 - 07:44 AM, said:

Stonewielder.

I'll let that sink in.

STONEWIELDER.

Got to finish before Cataclysm!

I was thinking the same for the last weeks, but because I didn't receive Stonewielder until last Thursday I'm not gonna make it.

Decided to savior my read and take my time since it will take about another 3 months or so before the Crippled God comes out and I won't be playing Cataclysm 24/7 anyway.

[Abyss]

Briar King, on 01 December 2010 - 06:12 AM, said:

...Anyway Im finally picking up my copy of NoK Ive had for a yr just sitting there.

Toke, on 05 December 2010 - 08:23 PM, said:

Reading Midnight Tides. ... so I refreshed myself by reading a Harry Potter book yesterday.

Heretics.

Wipe them out.
All of them.

MTS, on 06 December 2010 - 08:55 AM, said:

All these Stonewielder posts are depressing.

Jenisand Rul, on 06 December 2010 - 09:00 AM, said:

Would it help if I told you that half way through Stonewielder is appearing to be ten times as solid a story as Return of the Crimson Guard was? All my doubts about Esslemont has disappeared while reading Stonewielder.

So gooooood.

Would it help you more if i told you that i'm also halfway through and ICE is NAILING this book in SO MANY awesome ways?

Astra, on 06 December 2010 - 09:18 AM, said:

Yellow, on 06 December 2010 - 08:12 AM, said:

Finished Before They Are Hanged. My opinion of the series hasn't changed, unfortunately. Good writing, boring story.

This is the major fault of The First Law. It doesn't change, doesn't progress. It is the same.
Maybe Abercrombie intended it to be that way, I don't know...

disagree. The pace steadily picks up from books 1-3. Book 1 is VERY slow so it has a long way to go but by midway through 3 i thought it was a great series as a whole.

QuickTidal, on 02 December 2010 - 04:35 PM, said:

Abyss, on 02 December 2010 - 03:29 PM, said:

SIDE JOBS and #s 5 and 6 of CODEX ALARA just arrived... but i'm only about 100pgs into STONEWIELDER....

- Abyss, .... *head explodes*....

So, basically you are going to be swimming in awesome for the next number of days...

*wants Stonewielder* Humphhh

Basically, yes. Possibly even weeks.

QuickTidal, on 06 December 2010 - 11:47 AM, said:

Gods dammit!

I hate that Chapters/Indigo in Canada has issues getting books out on their release date. I've been all over Toronto and I can't get my hands on Stonewielder. Fuck! Arg!

Give it up QT. If you order from amazon.uk right now you'll probably still get it sooner and for the same price.


- Abyss, ...meant 'heretics' in the nicest way possible...

[Salt-Man Z]

Stonewielder Schmonewielder. Give me a month to get Christmas money, wait for Book Depository to get it back in stock, and it's all mine.

[QuickTidal]

Abyss, on 06 December 2010 - 03:52 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 06 December 2010 - 11:47 AM, said:

Gods dammit!

I hate that Chapters/Indigo in Canada has issues getting books out on their release date. I've been all over Toronto and I can't get my hands on Stonewielder. Fuck! Arg!

Give it up QT. If you order from amazon.uk right now you'll probably still get it sooner and for the same price.


- Abyss, ...meant 'heretics' in the nicest way possible...

Yeah, you're probably right. Sigh. *tromps off to Amazon.co.uk to order it.*

[Puck]

Astra, on 06 December 2010 - 09:18 AM, said:

Yellow, on 06 December 2010 - 08:12 AM, said:

Finished Before They Are Hanged. My opinion of the series hasn't changed, unfortunately. Good writing, boring story.

This is the major fault of The First Law. It doesn't change, doesn't progress. It is the same.
Maybe Abercrombie intended it to be that way, I don't know...

That was my very problem with Best Served Cold. I loved the First Law trilogy, liked the writing AND story. But BSC was just more of the same minus the novelty that the First Law had been as well as minus anything new.
So for me it was: First Law - yay, BSC - nay.

[Abyss]

Puck, on 06 December 2010 - 06:17 PM, said:

...That was my very problem with Best Served Cold. I loved the First Law trilogy, liked the writing AND story. But BSC was just more of the same minus the novelty that the First Law had been as well as minus anything new.
So for me it was: First Law - yay, BSC - nay.

Funny, because i thought BSC was his best work by far. Ah well, don't want to derail the 'reading' thread so moving on...


STILL reading STONEWIELDER.

Still AWESOME.

[QuickTidal]

Abyss, on 06 December 2010 - 06:30 PM, said:

Puck, on 06 December 2010 - 06:17 PM, said:

...That was my very problem with Best Served Cold. I loved the First Law trilogy, liked the writing AND story. But BSC was just more of the same minus the novelty that the First Law had been as well as minus anything new.
So for me it was: First Law - yay, BSC - nay.

Funny, because i thought BSC was his best work by far. Ah well, don't want to derail the 'reading' thread so moving on...


STILL reading STONEWIELDER.

Still AWESOME.

Damn you sir.

Also, I would echo the sentiment of BSC...with the exception that one nice thing about the First Law was the historical aspects, house of the maker and all that....but for sheer audacity BSC was pretty damn fine.

[Dolorous Menhir]

So, Stonewielder is good?

[Aptorian]

I'll put it like this, a hell of a lot of shit is happening, on a continent and in a culture we knew next to nothing about, and Esslemont is pulling off a book that in my opinion is as well written as the best of the Erikson books. In terms of skill in telling a story, and juggling the many storylines and character of a good Malazan novel, Esslemont has made great leaps in comparison to RCG.

How ever, two thirds into the book, my only qualm is that the book lacks some of the truly epic revelations and clashes that are the normal high points of the book, it's sort of rolling along in a low gear most of the time. But everything is heading for a convergence which seems to be Panion epicness in scale.

I have to say, even though the two authors share the same dark view of human nature, and delves into the same themes, I like Esslemonts preference of shying away from the flowery poetry that Erikson will often go off on for several pages.

This post has been edited by Jenisapt Rul: 06 December 2010 - 07:02 PM

[QuickTidal]

Jenisapt Rul, on 06 December 2010 - 06:59 PM, said:

I'll put it like this, a hell of a lot of shit is happening, on a continent and in a culture we knew next to nothing about, and Esslemont is pulling off a book that in my opinion is as well written as the best of the Erikson books. In terms of skill in telling a story, and juggling the many storylines and character of a good Malazan novel, Esslemont has made great leaps in comparison to RCG.

How ever, two thirds into the book, my only qualm is that the book lacks some of the truly epic revelations and clashes that are the normal high points of the book, it's sort of rolling along in a low gear most of the time. But everything is heading for a convergence which seems to be Panion epicness in scale.

I have to say, even though the two authors share the same dark view of human nature, and delves into the same themes, I like Esslemonts preference of shying away from the flowery poetry that Erikson will often go off on for several pages.

Oh Man!! Oh man...head is exploding just imagining it! Arg! Needs it.

[Yellow]

I'm about 100 pages into Stonewielder... seems very similar to RotCG so far in that it's pretty fast paced and lively. Enjoying it quite a lot.

Only problem I have is the same one I had last time. Esselmont has this thing that he seems to use a lot (feels like nearly every page), and every time I see it I cringe and it does my head in.

"He grunted his understanding"

"She grunted her disinterest"

"She nodded her indifference"

"He winced his pain"

It's driving me mad! I mean seriously, how do you wince your pain? Wince with pain, sure. Grunt in understanding. Gah.

[Aptorian]

Yellow shouted his frustration.

[QuickTidal]

QuickTidal, on 06 December 2010 - 04:58 PM, said:

Abyss, on 06 December 2010 - 03:52 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 06 December 2010 - 11:47 AM, said:

Gods dammit!

I hate that Chapters/Indigo in Canada has issues getting books out on their release date. I've been all over Toronto and I can't get my hands on Stonewielder. Fuck! Arg!

Give it up QT. If you order from amazon.uk right now you'll probably still get it sooner and for the same price.


- Abyss, ...meant 'heretics' in the nicest way possible...

Yeah, you're probably right. Sigh. *tromps off to Amazon.co.uk to order it.*

Ordered. Woot!

So, why I ask...does Amazon.ca say 2-3 weeks to ship it....and Chapters/Indigo says it's in stock but NOT in stock (confusion even the guy on the phone at the store couldn't help me with)...and Amazon.co.uk says it will ship tomorrow and get to me by December 17th..and that's from across the ocean. It makes zero sense unless amazon.ca is ordering it themselves from the UK and THEN shipping it out....so weird.

At any rate, I guess this just means Britain is better....so I took Abyss's advice, cut out the effing middle man and ordered it direct from the UK at a total cost of about $40ish...hardcover. I'm seriously not complaining, seems rather reasonable in my books.

Makes note ot maybe do the same come the release of TCG.

[QuickTidal]

Yellow, on 06 December 2010 - 08:29 PM, said:

I'm about 100 pages into Stonewielder... seems very similar to RotCG so far in that it's pretty fast paced and lively. Enjoying it quite a lot.

Only problem I have is the same one I had last time. Esselmont has this thing that he seems to use a lot (feels like nearly every page), and every time I see it I cringe and it does my head in.

"He grunted his understanding"

"She grunted her disinterest"

"She nodded her indifference"

"He winced his pain"

It's driving me mad! I mean seriously, how do you wince your pain? Wince with pain, sure. Grunt in understanding. Gah.

He's Canadian. Suitably, I have no issues with any of those phrases. LOL.

Is it deterring from your enjoyment?