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Posted 01 April 2014 - 07:12 AM

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View PostSerenity, on 31 March 2014 - 12:38 PM, said:

And now I'm making a start on The Faded Sun Trilogy by C J Cherryh.

Awesome. SF classic.


I'm about 180 pages into it. It's completely absorbing. Loving it so far.
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Posted 01 April 2014 - 09:46 PM

Slight change of plans. I'm now reading a spoof book called Gin O Clock by a Twitter parody account of The Queen. First very light reading and silly and just what I need as a buffer between Malazan and the rest of fiction... ;-)
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:00 AM

View PostBriar King, on 02 April 2014 - 05:20 AM, said:

On pg 47 Blood Song. I'm liking it a lot.


It only gets better with each passing chapter. ;)
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:53 PM

I'm halfway through Grossman's The Magicians and I'm loving it. It's a brilliant rendition of "boy accidentally falls into school of magic and then starts learning how to be a wizzard". Much, much better than Harry Potter, with a flavoring of Thomas Covenant early on (Quentin is a bit of a wet noodle at first and sort of disbelieves the entire time that this school of magic thing is actually happening to him/wondering if he's gone nuts and just doesn't know it). The writing is tight and beautiful, the learning of magic somehow rings true with learning a complex topic and the school and its characters is more than just wish-fulfillment.

So I thought of QuickTidal's comment earlier on this book

View PostQuickTidal, on 13 March 2014 - 11:22 AM, said:

Wow, so I got two chapters into THE MAGICIANS...most pretentious, boring book with a protagonist I wanted to punch out ever.

It has no charm, no characters I wanted to identify with, and a main character who should be wiped from the face of the planet to save him from his own selfish mopiness.

Fucking TERRIBLE.

sorry to those who liked it, I just can't get into it. Not my type of book at all.

and I think he should give this a second chance. He and I talk about Evangelion pretty regularly, he's read the Broken Empire books (which admittedly have a much more charismatic main character) and he's liked the China Mieville books, which usually have a somewhat unlikable main character.

Why does Quentin set you off so strongly, QuickTidal?

Worrywort's already finished with the second book The Magician King and likes it very much. That's a strong recommendation by itself, I think.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 06:36 PM

So, just finished Homeland, and well.. several things have to be said..

1. Nowhere, and I mean nowhere on or in that book does it say that this is actually the second book of, well, two. What the hell? The only place I found that info on was goodreads, because not even the author's blog/website/whatever thingy was forthcoming with that info. References to earlier events were, accordingly, a bit irritating, but hey, the book was good enough without having read book 1. The first book isn't even listed on the 'also by this author from this publisher'-page in the front.

2. It's a YA spy thriller thingy. Which the book I've got does not clue one in on, either. The cover's actually pretty cool. ANYWAY, despite that I enjoyed it a lot, and will probably, should I get it into my hands, real book 1 as well. Guess I'm a child of the internet and thus found refences to LOLCats, Reddit, 4chan and stuff funnier than I should have.. who knows. It was good, is what i'm trying to say.

So, now that i've finished this one faster than I had planned to I'm at a loss about what to read next..
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 07:27 PM

Finished The Book Thief. Predictably cried at the end I knew was coming anyway. However, I enjoyed it very much and would recommend it.

Re-reading the Farseer Trilogy - I've only actually read it once, so plenty of time to catch up with it and Tawny Man before the new book approaches.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:04 PM

tbh I loved The Magicians. Yes, Quentin is a deeply unlikable character, but the poor bastard really suffers for it in the end. I was less enamoured of The Magician King but it is still a very decent read. Grossman's style is functional, rather than flashy, but that suits the material, I think.

I'm currently reading Roger Zelazny's Creatures of Light and Darkness, which is from his purple patch way back in the late sixties/early seventies. Other books to come from this time for him include Nine Princes in Amber and Lord of Light. In some ways it works as a companion piece to Lord of Light inasmuch as Lord of Light is an sf novel in fantasy clothes, whereas Creatures of Light and Darkness is a fantasy novel in sf clothes. It's also completely mental, and all the more fun for that. In some way, his facility to give his characters epic sounding attributes reminds me a bit of Celtic myth; one character rides across the stars on an eight legged horse whose every stride is twice as long as its last. Which sounds right out of The Mabinogion to my ears.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:23 PM

I finished Promise of Blood. I liked it well enough that I've got both short stories and the novella downloading to my kobo now.

Now, besides shifting my focus back to Sandman, I've started the third Ketty Jay novel THE IRON JACKAL and am listening to COLD DAYS in lieu of a re-read before SKIN GAME next month.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:40 PM

Halfway through listening to the Red Knight; really good stuff. Not really a fan of stuff set on Earth, especially alternate medieval history, but this is good enough that I don't care. Great characterization and the writing is ace. Will be buying the Fell Sword with one of my audible credits tomorrow. The other will either go to Fortune's Pawn or the Boy with the Porcelain Blade (anybody recommend either?).
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:55 PM

Wait the Traitor Son Cycle is set on our Earth and not a secondary world? I simply thought it was a historically bent fantasy because the authour is mainly an historical authour.

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 12:10 AM

View PostStudlock, on 02 April 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Wait the Traitor Son Cycle is set on our Earth and a secondary world? I simply thought it was a historically bent fantasy because the authour is mainly an historical authour.


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Posted 03 April 2014 - 12:31 AM

View PostStudlock, on 02 April 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Wait the Traitor Son Cycle is set on our Earth and a secondary world? I simply thought it was a historically bent fantasy because the authour is mainly an historical authour.


They have a Jesus and Mary, not sure of the locations, have similar historical figures, but dragons, and fantasy species......etc. Not sure what you mean about "and a secondary world". I'm just saying that it's set on an Earth with fantasy species and an alternate history.
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 12:46 AM

I know Worry, it's a tick, every time I see an o and r together I gots to put a u in there. Just feels right. And Baco I meant *not a secondary world like Lord of the Rings. I had thought it was a made up is all.
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 02:30 AM

View Postamphibian, on 02 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

Why does Quentin set you off so strongly, QuickTidal?


I think I know assholes like him in real life, and I can't be bothered to give them the time of day in real life, so I didn't feel like doing it in a book. I also didn't much care for Grossman's style of prose.

The difference between Quentin, and let's say Jorg from PoT is that at least Jorg is at least not a whiney shit. He's a jerk, but at least he's not a mopey, emo jerk?

Honestly, I was so put off by the book I doubt I'll ever give it another chance. It MIGHT happen...but as it stands, probably not.
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 08:24 AM

View PostBaco Xtath, on 03 April 2014 - 12:31 AM, said:

View PostStudlock, on 02 April 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Wait the Traitor Son Cycle is set on our Earth and a secondary world? I simply thought it was a historically bent fantasy because the authour is mainly an historical authour.


They have a Jesus and Mary, not sure of the locations, have similar historical figures, but dragons, and fantasy species......etc. Not sure what you mean about "and a secondary world". I'm just saying that it's set on an Earth with fantasy species and an alternate history.


More complicated than that, with lots of potential.

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 02:21 PM

View PostPig Iron, on 03 April 2014 - 08:24 AM, said:

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View PostStudlock, on 02 April 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Wait the Traitor Son Cycle is set on our Earth and a secondary world? I simply thought it was a historically bent fantasy because the authour is mainly an historical authour.


They have a Jesus and Mary, not sure of the locations, have similar historical figures, but dragons, and fantasy species......etc. Not sure what you mean about "and a secondary world". I'm just saying that it's set on an Earth with fantasy species and an alternate history.


More complicated than that, with lots of potential.

Spoiler



Cool. Glad I'm wrong. I just skimmed the spoiler as I'm only 1/3 in Red Knight and I don't want to be spoiled on anything major. Still, great book.
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 06:07 PM

Currently reading A Fire Upon the Deep after being bored with my current reading pile picked a random SF classic I hadn't read. Half way through I like it, it is old and feels a bit dated but the aliens are really entertaining and easily keeping my interest.

View PostQuickTidal, on 03 April 2014 - 02:30 AM, said:

View Postamphibian, on 02 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

Why does Quentin set you off so strongly, QuickTidal?


I think I know assholes like him in real life, and I can't be bothered to give them the time of day in real life, so I didn't feel like doing it in a book. I also didn't much care for Grossman's style of prose.

The difference between Quentin, and let's say Jorg from PoT is that at least Jorg is at least not a whiney shit. He's a jerk, but at least he's not a mopey, emo jerk?

Honestly, I was so put off by the book I doubt I'll ever give it another chance. It MIGHT happen...but as it stands, probably not.


You just explained part of why parts of the ending and second book is so rewarding the characters and especially Quentin grows in good ways.

They are also a couple of really good books with a lot of bashing fantasy stereotype in entertaining ways.

The prose bothered me too for a good while probably well into the second book.

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:17 AM

View PostBriar King, on 02 April 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

View PostTheRetiredBridgeburner, on 02 April 2014 - 07:27 PM, said:

Finished The Book Thief. Predictably cried at the end I knew was coming anyway. However, I enjoyed it very much and would recommend it.

Re-reading the Farseer Trilogy - I've only actually read it once, so plenty of time to catch up with it and Tawny Man before the new book approaches.


Wait a new FITZ book???


A new trilogy, no less!

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:55 AM

Hooray for more Hobb books. Or Megan Lindholm.

I am wondering if she's being pushed into writing more Fitz or if she's going there on her own. Seems like she really wanted to explore other characters and milieus.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 10:58 AM

View Postamphibian, on 04 April 2014 - 06:55 AM, said:

Hooray for more Hobb books. Or Megan Lindholm.

I am wondering if she's being pushed into writing more Fitz or if she's going there on her own. Seems like she really wanted to explore other characters and milieus.


She's stated in interviews that Fitz is her fave, but for years she didn't want to return to him because she needed a story that paid it good homage and not just cashed in.

And in defense of her writing more Fitz books...her last few Rainwilds efforts weren't great, not to mention the dismal Soldier Son trilogy...Fitz is her best.

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