[Imperial Historian]

Re the whole QB, Hood Talmandas thing...

QB initially used Hood's warren predominantly to travel, as it was resisting teh infection best, on hsi travels in said warren he encountered Talmandas, resucued him, then various events happen, talmandas is blessed by barghast gods and hood and QB uses talmandas as a channel to use all the warrens (note not through hood, talmandas is actually drawing all the power QB requires, but since he is a wooden stick figure the CG poison does not affect him).

QB also warns hood about his meddling with Talmandas and says that when he needs Hood he will call on him... now at the battle of Coral picker mentions that what Quick is doing was like a God had stepped in... so the theory is that for at least some of the battle at Coral, a lot of Quick's power is coming directly from Hood himself.

[Monoch Ochem]

Def agreed there IH. In fact, the wraith that wrenched out the soldier's soul was regarded as a particularly sharp illusion. Was it Blend who observed this? It had a certain cynical tone to it that made me think the observer is saying that it was too sharp to be an illusion. Blend did have magical abilities..... And to think about it: a wraith? I agree....I think Hood's warren was at work there but I'm not sure it was the grim reaper himself.

[Hume]

It wasnt blend it was one of the other minor mages in the bridgenurners..
Spindle or Toes I think

[Dolmen 2.0]

I think it goes without saying that the elder warrens are the strongest but in regards to the more refined, more human friendly warrens how do they stack up to each other?

The cedance seems be one of the strongests forms of magic right after hoods warren and the other one used to summon demons. Can you define the power of the ceda as superior to others because he commands the cedance? I get the impression it is something very dificult to do.

[Monoch Ochem]

Dolmen said:

Can you define the power of the ceda as superior to others because he commands the cedance? I get the impression it is something very dificult to do.

I'm not saying it's the final word on the matter but I think commanding the Cedance is a pretty strong indicator of his power. As I'd said before:

Monoch Ochem said:

I think a mage’s power is reflected by how much power he can wield- what I mean is that Hanan Mossag was disfigured by the sorcery he used. The Ceda wielded something more powerful and he did so EASILY without being used up. Tayschrenn and all the others seem to ‘run out’ (Pale and Coral) sooner.

[Svaran]

Monoch Ochem said:

I'm not saying it's the final word on the matter but I think commanding the Cedance is a pretty strong indicator of his power. As I'd said before:

Also wasn't alot of Mossag's power coming from the crippled god? Which makes the cedance very powerful.

[Hume]

@ Svaran

Its possible that Hannan Mosag was getting power from the crippled god but there was nothing to overtly suggest it.
He was however increasing his power by drawing from the Lifeforce of the queen and and her son...
So on the One hand you have Hannon increasing his power from those two stooges and the Ceda was apparently increasing his power as well from the Cedance (?) could be wrong with the second one though.

[Monoch Ochem]

I think the Ceda was indeed drawing from the Cedance HUME. I believe that's why he drew that tile. He was using the very force of Letheras' destiny or something like that.... The Cedance occurred at a different time from that previously thought. Instead of the date and time that Ezgara entered the Eternal Domicile and sat on the throne, it was the time when Rhulad entered. It seems to me that everything was balanced at that one moment where the Edur or the Letherii could have become a new empire. Had the Ceda not been murdered by that cowardly throw, the Edur would have been 'cleansed' from Letheras.

It seems that HM was drawing from the CG's power too. The sorcery seemed to have the same disfiguring effect that is did on the Krisnan. He then boosted it by probably channelling it through the prince and his mother...or that's my guess. I could of course be wrong as, being a warlock, I guess HM could have done a life force thing similar to what Nil and Nether did to that Wickan horse.

[Svaran]

Monoch Ochem said:

It seems that HM was drawing from the CG's power too. The sorcery seemed to have the same disfiguring effect that is did on the Krisnan. He then boosted it by probably channelling it through the prince and his mother...or that's my guess. I could of course be wrong as, being a warlock, I guess HM could have done a life force thing similar to what Nil and Nether did to that Wickan horse.

And it still wasn't enough to defeat the Ceda, I find that quite amazing. Just why is the Cedance so powerful?

[fan_83]

actually HM was using the queen and the prince as a sort of a shield from the cedance.. cos they are of letharii blood, they provide a shield from the cedance otherwise the cedanceblast will have cleared them all out immediately

imho

[Monoch Ochem]

Possibly...it does seem logical that if the Cedance WAS (as I assumed) the power of Letheras' destiny (drawn from the Empty Hold maybe???) then to use the prince and queen against it would be effective. Then again, it still only held back the Cedance momentarily. The Ceda was gaining ground and would still have obliterated them. Who knows anyway- maybe the Ceda would have been completely used up afterwards and die as a result. *sigh* (yup, still moaning about one of the dearest characters to my dessicated heart)

[Dolmen 2.0]

Okay, never thought of that. Is the cedance not linked to the errant somehow? If it isn't I think its kind of like an amalgamation of all the magic blocked out of lethar focused into their destiny. Maybe like a collection of all the potential power letharii people can't use.

Oh and maybe it borrows from the sleeping goddess of them other strange peoples indebted by lethar. just a thought though...

[fan_83]

i would guess the magic is gathered from the energies of the people who callthem themselves letharii and have faith in the letharii system of doing things...

thats my opinion