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Posted 19 January 2021 - 10:42 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 10:39 AM, said:

If I move to Thibah, how many PDS shots does IH get to take? Three?


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Posted 19 January 2021 - 10:44 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 January 2021 - 10:42 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 10:39 AM, said:

If I move to Thibah, how many PDS shots does IH get to take? Three?


Correct


Also space docks do not count as ships so would not recieve PDS fire.
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 10:52 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 January 2021 - 10:44 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 January 2021 - 10:42 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 10:39 AM, said:

If I move to Thibah, how many PDS shots does IH get to take? Three?


Correct


Also space docks do not count as ships so would not recieve PDS fire.


True but I can’t leave fighters behind, so I’m weighing whether it’s worth it or go do something else.
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 12:13 PM

I am not going to be able to claim it as I have no infantry. I do see it as within my slice though Khell, so I'd expect something in return as a good will gesture and I am sure IH will want something to turn off his PDS.
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 12:19 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 19 January 2021 - 12:13 PM, said:

I am not going to be able to claim it as I have no infantry. I do see it as within my slice though Khell, so I'd expect something in return as a good will gesture and I am sure IH will want something to turn off his PDS.


I don't mind IH not turning off his PDS, fighters can be replaced (immediately, actually). But if you feel it's yours and you don't want me to take it, then YOU might want to offer ME something for not doing it, not the other way round.

I would take another go with Terraform, for example.

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Posted 19 January 2021 - 12:23 PM

That was a one of note, which you have attached to one of your planets.
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 12:37 PM

The suspense!

I suspect Khell realises that if he moves there his spacedock is at risk, so doesn't really want to.
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 12:37 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 19 January 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

That was a one of note, which you have attached to one of your planets.


Wow, you mean you can’t give out that PN again? That’s a lot less useful to you than I thought!

Alright, how about your Ceasefire, as you’ll be coming uncomfortably close to me if you go to Thibah?
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 12:38 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 19 January 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

That was a one of note, which you have attached to one of your planets.


Wow, you mean you can't give out that PN again? That's a lot less useful to you than I thought!

Alright, how about your Ceasefire, as you'll be coming uncomfortably close to me if you go to Thibah?


This is partly why everyone was shocked he gave it you.
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 12:39 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 19 January 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

That was a one of note, which you have attached to one of your planets.


Wow, you mean you can't give out that PN again? That's a lot less useful to you than I thought!

Alright, how about your Ceasefire, as you'll be coming uncomfortably close to me if you go to Thibah?


No thank you. You pay me or do what you will.
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 12:40 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 19 January 2021 - 12:39 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 19 January 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

That was a one of note, which you have attached to one of your planets.


Wow, you mean you can't give out that PN again? That's a lot less useful to you than I thought!

Alright, how about your Ceasefire, as you'll be coming uncomfortably close to me if you go to Thibah?


No thank you. You pay me or do what you will.


You rely on IH far too much :p
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 12:41 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 January 2021 - 12:38 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 19 January 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

That was a one of note, which you have attached to one of your planets.


Wow, you mean you can't give out that PN again? That's a lot less useful to you than I thought!

Alright, how about your Ceasefire, as you'll be coming uncomfortably close to me if you go to Thibah?


This is partly why everyone was shocked he gave it you.


I genuinely did not know it was one-time. That was a lot more valuable to him as a bargaining tool than I thought, for a single use you'd want to keep it around until you really needed to trade.

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Posted 19 January 2021 - 12:52 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 12:41 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 January 2021 - 12:38 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 19 January 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

That was a one of note, which you have attached to one of your planets.


Wow, you mean you can't give out that PN again? That's a lot less useful to you than I thought!

Alright, how about your Ceasefire, as you'll be coming uncomfortably close to me if you go to Thibah?


This is partly why everyone was shocked he gave it you.


I genuinely did not know it was one-time. That was a lot more valuable to him as a bargaining tool than I thought, for a single use you'd want to keep it around until you really needed to trade.


I hope this did not go unnoticed, but it did. You were giving me something and I thought I'd reciprocate.
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 12:54 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 12:40 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 19 January 2021 - 12:39 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 19 January 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

That was a one of note, which you have attached to one of your planets.


Wow, you mean you can't give out that PN again? That's a lot less useful to you than I thought!

Alright, how about your Ceasefire, as you'll be coming uncomfortably close to me if you go to Thibah?


No thank you. You pay me or do what you will.


You rely on IH far too much :p


It is not reliance, we have made deals. If they weren't in place I would have adjusted accordingly.
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 01:03 PM

I meant in terms of IH swaying you to do something or other with his weaselly words.

Sorry about the delay guys, I was just about to post my action when I realised that I'm not sure I fully understand a mechanic - specifically the Saar commander. It says if you build fighters or infantry they can go to any other space dock. Fine, but does that mean if you build infantry and want them to appear at a different space dock, they'll have to be in the space area or can they go on the planet(s) where the space dock is?

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Posted 19 January 2021 - 01:08 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 01:03 PM, said:

I meant in terms of IH swaying you to do something or other with his weaselly words.

Sorry about the delay guys, I was just about to post my action when I realised that I'm not sure I fully understand a mechanic - specifically the Saar commander. It says if you build fighters or infantry they can go to any other space dock. Fine, but does that mean if you build infantry and want them to appear at a different space dock, they'll have to be in the space area or can they go on the planet(s) where the space dock is?


Your space docks dont go on planets, they are ships, so I would assume the space area.
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 01:10 PM

View PostBlend, on 19 January 2021 - 01:08 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 01:03 PM, said:

I meant in terms of IH swaying you to do something or other with his weaselly words.

Sorry about the delay guys, I was just about to post my action when I realised that I'm not sure I fully understand a mechanic - specifically the Saar commander. It says if you build fighters or infantry they can go to any other space dock. Fine, but does that mean if you build infantry and want them to appear at a different space dock, they'll have to be in the space area or can they go on the planet(s) where the space dock is?


Your space docks dont go on planets, they are ships, so I would assume the space area.



They are ships ONLY for movement. If I build infantry normally (and don't teleport them somewhere), they go on the planet, not in space.
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 01:17 PM

My understanding is that infantry builds always appear on planets
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 01:23 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 January 2021 - 01:17 PM, said:

My understanding is that infantry builds always appear on planets


Mine too, but it's the Commander wording that confuses me: When you produce fighters or infantry: You may place each of those units at any of your space docks [my italics] that are not blockaded.
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Posted 19 January 2021 - 01:33 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 19 January 2021 - 01:23 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 January 2021 - 01:17 PM, said:

My understanding is that infantry builds always appear on planets


Mine too, but it's the Commander wording that confuses me: When you produce fighters or infantry: You may place each of those units at any of your space docks [my italics] that are not blockaded.


I think it's worded like that because of the Alliance PN. It's not just for you, it's for whoever has your alliance card too as they can use your Commander ability.

So if when you build infantry normally they immediately go to planets, I'd say it's the same in this case if you build at a space dock other than in the active system.
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