[Morgoth]

Imperial Historian, on 13 January 2021 - 12:50 PM, said:

The betrayals begin

to be fair, I'm paying twelve what he asked for from those he would not give a free refresh to.

[Imperial Historian]

I predict he will not be happy that his rush to Rex has been disrupted.

[Blend]

twelve, on 13 January 2021 - 07:14 AM, said:

Blend in my go I'm moving into Everra. I can wash the rest of your commodities if you wash my last one when you pay me the 1 tg for the refresh. That's doesnt mess with whatever is going on with Morgoth will it?

Sure. I'd give you 4 Commodities, you'd give me 3TGs and my debt to you would be over. Happy to do so if you are, and no, it won't disrupt my deal with Morgoth as long as I can wash all his commmodities, which I will be able to do with the 3TGs you'll be giving me.

[twelve]

Morgoth, on 13 January 2021 - 12:57 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 13 January 2021 - 12:50 PM, said:

The betrayals begin

to be fair, I'm paying twelve what he asked for from those he would not give a free refresh to.

It's also costing me 2 planets so no 1 trade good is not going to cut it. Plus my deal was first prior to everyone else.

[Khellendros]

The more I read about the Vuil'raith and the Mahact the more I want to try them, they look like a lot of fun! Also, it's amusing that the Vuil'raith get a seat at the agenda table - 'oh, hello He Who Moulds Flesh', how's the weather in Dimension X74 been? And is that a fifth row of teeth you've grown? Amazing!'

[Khellendros]

The Nomad also looks really fun and thematically excellent: combat rolls didn't go your way? Turn back time and try again! Someone needs help in combat? The Nomad's promissory note effectively winks their flagship into existence to fight for you. You find out something is a good investment? Turn back time and double your profit! Also, the explanatory text for the Memoria upgrade is perfect: 'improved EVERYTHING.'

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 13 January 2021 - 04:44 PM, said:

The Nomad also looks really fun and thematically excellent: combat rolls didn't go your way? Turn back time and try again! Someone needs help in combat? The Nomad's promissory note effectively winks their flagship into existence to fight for you. You find out something is a good investment? Turn back time and double your profit! Also, the explanatory text for the Memoria upgrade is perfect: 'improved EVERYTHING.'

The nomad looked fun, but I couldn't see how artuno the tg multiplier would work as there aren't actually very many times where you gain tg from the supply. Flavourwise though amazing.

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 13 January 2021 - 05:01 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 13 January 2021 - 04:44 PM, said:

The Nomad also looks really fun and thematically excellent: combat rolls didn't go your way? Turn back time and try again! Someone needs help in combat? The Nomad's promissory note effectively winks their flagship into existence to fight for you. You find out something is a good investment? Turn back time and double your profit! Also, the explanatory text for the Memoria upgrade is perfect: 'improved EVERYTHING.'

The nomad looked fun, but I couldn't see how artuno the tg multiplier would work as there aren't actually very many times where you gain tg from the supply. Flavourwise though amazing.

I think most of the time you would just get one extra. But I'm sure there's like a 'gain 5 trade goods' thing out there - imagine playing Artuno on that!

Edit: I think most of the time it's supposed to work alongside Exploring. There's quite a few exploration cards which gain you a TG from the supply.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 13 January 2021 - 05:07 PM

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 13 January 2021 - 05:05 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 13 January 2021 - 05:01 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 13 January 2021 - 04:44 PM, said:

The Nomad also looks really fun and thematically excellent: combat rolls didn't go your way? Turn back time and try again! Someone needs help in combat? The Nomad's promissory note effectively winks their flagship into existence to fight for you. You find out something is a good investment? Turn back time and double your profit! Also, the explanatory text for the Memoria upgrade is perfect: 'improved EVERYTHING.'

The nomad looked fun, but I couldn't see how artuno the tg multiplier would work as there aren't actually very many times where you gain tg from the supply. Flavourwise though amazing.

I think most of the time you would just get one extra. But I'm sure there's like a 'gain 5 trade goods' thing out there - imagine playing Artuno on that!

Edit: I think most of the time it's supposed to work alongside Exploring. There's quite a few exploration cards which gain you a TG from the supply.

Well taking trade would always give you 6tg.

And there's an action card which lets you destroy a ship for tg equal to it's cost, which if you destroyed your flagship would give you 16tg. And the nomad commander lets them build there flagship for free. So that's pretty good.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 13 January 2021 - 05:09 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 13 January 2021 - 05:05 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 13 January 2021 - 05:01 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 13 January 2021 - 04:44 PM, said:

The Nomad also looks really fun and thematically excellent: combat rolls didn't go your way? Turn back time and try again! Someone needs help in combat? The Nomad's promissory note effectively winks their flagship into existence to fight for you. You find out something is a good investment? Turn back time and double your profit! Also, the explanatory text for the Memoria upgrade is perfect: 'improved EVERYTHING.'

The nomad looked fun, but I couldn't see how artuno the tg multiplier would work as there aren't actually very many times where you gain tg from the supply. Flavourwise though amazing.

I think most of the time you would just get one extra. But I'm sure there's like a 'gain 5 trade goods' thing out there - imagine playing Artuno on that!

Edit: I think most of the time it's supposed to work alongside Exploring. There's quite a few exploration cards which gain you a TG from the supply.

Well taking trade would always give you 6tg.

And there's an action card which lets you destroy a ship for tg equal to it's cost, which if you destroyed your flagship would give you 16tg. And the nomad commander lets them build there flagship for free. So that's pretty good.

Even better, it lets you scuttle TWO ships. Two War Suns -> 24 TG -> 48 TG.

[Khellendros]

D, on 13 January 2021 - 05:33 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 13 January 2021 - 05:09 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 13 January 2021 - 05:05 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 13 January 2021 - 05:01 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 13 January 2021 - 04:44 PM, said:

The Nomad also looks really fun and thematically excellent: combat rolls didn't go your way? Turn back time and try again! Someone needs help in combat? The Nomad's promissory note effectively winks their flagship into existence to fight for you. You find out something is a good investment? Turn back time and double your profit! Also, the explanatory text for the Memoria upgrade is perfect: 'improved EVERYTHING.'

The nomad looked fun, but I couldn't see how artuno the tg multiplier would work as there aren't actually very many times where you gain tg from the supply. Flavourwise though amazing.

I think most of the time you would just get one extra. But I'm sure there's like a 'gain 5 trade goods' thing out there - imagine playing Artuno on that!

Edit: I think most of the time it's supposed to work alongside Exploring. There's quite a few exploration cards which gain you a TG from the supply.

Well taking trade would always give you 6tg.

And there's an action card which lets you destroy a ship for tg equal to it's cost, which if you destroyed your flagship would give you 16tg. And the nomad commander lets them build there flagship for free. So that's pretty good.

Even better, it lets you scuttle TWO ships. Two War Suns -> 24 TG -> 48 TG.

*Mentak sidles up* Ahem, cough.

[Morgoth]

twelve, on 13 January 2021 - 03:19 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 13 January 2021 - 12:57 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 13 January 2021 - 12:50 PM, said:

The betrayals begin

to be fair, I'm paying twelve what he asked for from those he would not give a free refresh to.

It's also costing me 2 planets so no 1 trade good is not going to cut it. Plus my deal was first prior to everyone else.

Yeah, you’re right, I did make that deal at the start.

[Morgoth]

I’ll trade with you on your next turn Khell.

[Imperial Historian]

All the secondaries!

[twelve]

IH that pds II on Cormund isn't going to be used to harass me in any adjacent system will it?

[Khellendros]

Oh wow, I’ve just realised that one of the new planets on the map is called Lisis! If/when it gets to the point that I clearly can’t win, I’m coming for the glorious, long-lost Saar homeworld!

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 13 January 2021 - 11:31 PM, said:

Oh wow, I’ve just realised that one of the new planets on the map is called Lisis! If/when it gets to the point that I clearly can’t win, I’m coming for the glorious, long-lost Saar homeworld!

Good to know as you would likely go through me to get there.

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 13 January 2021 - 11:21 PM, said:

IH that pds II on Cormund isn't going to be used to harass me in any adjacent system will it?

If you don't want me to fire on you I'm sure we can come to some agreement. It's mainly to slow you down as I'm expecting you to make a rush for rex via primor and that's a mighty combo for the winnu that I don't want you to get for free.

If I was going to come for you I'd have just taken arnor lor.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 13 January 2021 - 11:42 PM, said:

twelve, on 13 January 2021 - 11:21 PM, said:

IH that pds II on Cormund isn't going to be used to harass me in any adjacent system will it?

If you don't want me to fire on you I'm sure we can come to some agreement. It's mainly to slow you down as I'm expecting you to make a rush for rex via primor and that's a mighty combo for the winnu that I don't want you to get for free.

If I was going to come for you I'd have just taken arnor lor.

This displeases me greatly. Especially since you are wrong and your pds wont slow me going to Rex if I deem it's a worthwhile endeavor next round. It will be a problem for me claiming my natural territory, however. And if you are already dictating what you will or will not allow me to do in my own area you are already stating we are at war. This is very much not how you usually play. Tatts is a much more aggressive player than me so I'm not sure why you feel like you need to put me in my place so to speak so early. But let's say hypothetically I ignore your high handed play. What deal (blackmail) would you feel worthy of not laying down pds fire on me?

[Imperial Historian]

And I thought I was being nice to you by not taking arnor lor!

I'd welcome you into the umbrella of the argent PDS protection if you make it worth my while but I've seen what you can do with the winnu with most of your stuff taken, so leaving you free to move entirely unhindered seemed unwise.

I'd say your racial would purchase the abeyance of PDS shots and their conversion to your protection.

If you can suggest a more productive long term deal and trading partnership I'm open to suggestions.

On the other hand if you want to go to war as you seem to imply, well that will likely stop you taking rex second round and well I'm pretty much designed to be extremely difficult to uproot.