[Imperial Historian]

Blend, on 24 March 2021 - 04:17 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 24 March 2021 - 03:11 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 24 March 2021 - 03:08 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 24 March 2021 - 03:05 PM, said:

So that's my current wonder plan:

Step 1: Twelve takes Mirage.
Step 2: Tatts takes Atlas.
Step 3: Khell plays Politics.
Step 4: Blend...blends (he's contributing the Aether abilities to all this anyway).
Step 5: Morgoth activates (peacefully!) one of my systems, hands back SftT.
Step 6: IH takes Winnu.
Step 7: Twelve plays Leadership.
Step 8: Tatts takes my SftT, activates Minister of War, takes Loki/A/A.

Easy! Everyone's sure to agree as well!

You are really contributing a lot to this flawless plan Khell, though according to this plan Tatts wins?

No, after this plan Tatts becomes the new favourite to win, and then we work out how to stop that. I mean, there's already 8 steps, let's get through those before coming up with more!

Frankly, I feel like Tatts has done a good job this game and wouldn't mind seeing him be the first one to win a game other than you and Morgoth.

So soon to forget Dreks epic victory last game!

[Blend]

Imperial Historian, on 24 March 2021 - 04:34 PM, said:

Blend, on 24 March 2021 - 04:17 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 24 March 2021 - 03:11 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 24 March 2021 - 03:08 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 24 March 2021 - 03:05 PM, said:

So that's my current wonder plan:

Step 1: Twelve takes Mirage.
Step 2: Tatts takes Atlas.
Step 3: Khell plays Politics.
Step 4: Blend...blends (he's contributing the Aether abilities to all this anyway).
Step 5: Morgoth activates (peacefully!) one of my systems, hands back SftT.
Step 6: IH takes Winnu.
Step 7: Twelve plays Leadership.
Step 8: Tatts takes my SftT, activates Minister of War, takes Loki/A/A.

Easy! Everyone's sure to agree as well!

You are really contributing a lot to this flawless plan Khell, though according to this plan Tatts wins?

No, after this plan Tatts becomes the new favourite to win, and then we work out how to stop that. I mean, there's already 8 steps, let's get through those before coming up with more!

Frankly, I feel like Tatts has done a good job this game and wouldn't mind seeing him be the first one to win a game other than you and Morgoth.

So soon to forget Dreks epic victory last game!

Oh shit, that's right!!! I'm sorry your ladyship!!!

[Imperial Historian]

Blend, on 24 March 2021 - 04:30 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 24 March 2021 - 04:26 PM, said:

Blend, on 24 March 2021 - 04:23 PM, said:

I may be able to throw some ships at Loki/Abadon/Ashtroth, either to soften up what's there, potentially to take a planet or two.

You can? That would certainly give us more options. Only Loki needs to be taken.

Also, if anyone has any kind of 'exhaust a planet' action card, now would be the time to step forward!

I have Tactical Bombardment. If I can get my Dread there and have it survive the space combat, I can use my second action to exhaust all the planets in that system. Problem is I'm not 100% certain I can move enough ships there to survive the space combat, it's pretty well defended and IH has 6PDS in range, so that's like 10+ PDS shots I'd have to worry about too.

Don't forget the AFB which can remove sustain damage and kills infantry.

[Khellendros]

Blend, on 24 March 2021 - 04:32 PM, said:

Basically, for me to do anything about that system, I'd need some better action cards. It was what I was hoping for from the Frontier explore.

Any chance you can move your Destroyer out from the Alpha Wormhole so I can take another stab at getting the action cards from the Frontier explore?

Moving my Destroyer isn't a problem. Atlas would have to be taken before you could get to Loki (because of Hololattice), and then you would face (I think) 7 PDS shots. I'm not sure how you could survive.

[Blend]

Khellendros, on 24 March 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

Blend, on 24 March 2021 - 04:32 PM, said:

Basically, for me to do anything about that system, I'd need some better action cards. It was what I was hoping for from the Frontier explore.

Any chance you can move your Destroyer out from the Alpha Wormhole so I can take another stab at getting the action cards from the Frontier explore?

Moving my Destroyer isn't a problem. Atlas would have to be taken before you could get to Loki (because of Hololattice), and then you would face (I think) 7 PDS shots. I'm not sure how you could survive.

Yeah, I forgot about Hollolattice.

It'd definitely be a lot easier for me to do something about Atlas than it would that system.

I'd have to get some pretty amazing action cards for my Dread and whatever else I can get there (which isn't MUCH) to survive space combat.

[Imperial Historian]

I am enjoying putting the argent's defensive abilities to the test.

I think they may be quietly in position to have one of the best fleet compositions in the game.

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 24 March 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

Don't forget the AFB which can remove sustain damage and kills infantry.

Infantry but not mechs. And only on rolls of 9 or 10.

Still, is this where we debate whether IH has played a very good game, setting up an impregnable fortress, or do we complain that Argent is OP?

[Blend]

Yeah, from what I've seen online they're generally regarded as 2nd tier faction, but I have no fucking idea how we can do anything about you this round. We should definitely have curtailed your expansion very quickly in the early game.

[Blend]

Khellendros, on 24 March 2021 - 04:43 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 24 March 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

Don't forget the AFB which can remove sustain damage and kills infantry.

Infantry but not mechs. And only on rolls of 9 or 10.

Still, is this where we debate whether IH has played a very good game, setting up an impregnable fortress, or do we complain that Argent is OP?

How can IH remove Sustain Damage? I'm not seeing that on his Destroyer abilities on his faction sheet unless it's a racial ability?

Ah, well, you don't remove Sustain, you just damage ships with sustain when AFB hits. If we don't bring any fighters, that ability is moot.

This post has been edited by Blend: 24 March 2021 - 04:45 PM

[Imperial Historian]

Argent are OP in this particular circumstance!

[Khellendros]

If Tatts doesn't feel like playing, then the other option is Morgoth takes Atlas, Blend tries to take Loki. But I just don't see how he can send a force which could survive. Tactical Bombardment is perfect, but being able to use it is more than difficult.

[Imperial Historian]

Blend, on 24 March 2021 - 04:45 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 24 March 2021 - 04:43 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 24 March 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

Don't forget the AFB which can remove sustain damage and kills infantry.

Infantry but not mechs. And only on rolls of 9 or 10.

Still, is this where we debate whether IH has played a very good game, setting up an impregnable fortress, or do we complain that Argent is OP?

How can IH remove Sustain Damage? I'm not seeing that on his Destroyer abilities on his faction sheet unless it's a racial ability?

Ah, well, you don't remove Sustain, you just damage ships with sustain when AFB hits. If we don't bring any fighters, that ability is moot.

Nope AFB triggers regardless of fighters being present, and if you had no fighters present all hits would be in excess.

• RAID FORMATION - When 1 or more of your units uses ANTI-FIGHTER BARRAGE, for each hit produced in excess of your opponent's Fighters, choose 1 of your opponent's ships that has SUSTAIN DAMAGE to become damaged.

[Khellendros]

Blend could take Atlas, and then Tatts could take Loki by passing through Blend's forces with Aether.

[Blend]

Imperial Historian, on 24 March 2021 - 04:46 PM, said:

Blend, on 24 March 2021 - 04:45 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 24 March 2021 - 04:43 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 24 March 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

Don't forget the AFB which can remove sustain damage and kills infantry.

Infantry but not mechs. And only on rolls of 9 or 10.

Still, is this where we debate whether IH has played a very good game, setting up an impregnable fortress, or do we complain that Argent is OP?

How can IH remove Sustain Damage? I'm not seeing that on his Destroyer abilities on his faction sheet unless it's a racial ability?

Ah, well, you don't remove Sustain, you just damage ships with sustain when AFB hits. If we don't bring any fighters, that ability is moot.

Nope AFB triggers regardless of fighters being present, and if you had no fighters present all hits would be in excess.

• RAID FORMATION - When 1 or more of your units uses ANTI-FIGHTER BARRAGE, for each hit produced in excess of your opponent's Fighters, choose 1 of your opponent's ships that has SUSTAIN DAMAGE to become damaged.

Yikes, that's gross.

That means that whoever's going there would need to bring along enough Fighers to soak that up if they have ships with Sustain.

[Imperial Historian]

I was not expecting this much effort to help Twelve win. Or Tatts.

Ah well, honourable second will suit.

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 24 March 2021 - 04:51 PM, said:

I was not expecting this much effort to help Twelve win. Or Tatts.

Ah well, honourable second will suit.

I doubt that any of this will happen. I think you pretty much have this in the bag. It just requires a bit too much cooperation.

[Khellendros]

Better yet, Blend takes Atlas, and Morgoth takes Loki by passing through Blend's forces with Aether. Morgoth has a lot of fighters...though possibly not as many as I think (think he moved some back to his home system on his last go).

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 24 March 2021 - 04:54 PM

[Khellendros]

Yes, he actually has 2 fighters available, UGH!

[Blend]

Khellendros, on 24 March 2021 - 04:53 PM, said:

Better yet, Blend takes Atlas, and Morgoth takes Loki by passing through Blend's forces with Aether. Morgoth has a lot of fighters...though possibly not as many as I think (think he moved some back to his home system on his last go).

Morgoth has a Flank Speed and In the Silence of Space, he can likely get to wherever he wants in IH's systems without our help, but my Aether abilities are certainly available to anyone who will do something about IH.

[Khellendros]

Crazy plan #52:

Twelve takes Cormund to get rid of a PDS. I take Mirage. Blend takes Atlas. Morgoth takes Loki.