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Twilight Imperium VII: Revelations - Chatty Thread

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 02:35 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 22 March 2021 - 01:40 PM, said:

Exactly.

Why not? You have the structures PO you can score right? You dont need his support to win.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 02:49 PM

I can't say. Dammit.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 03:21 PM

View Posttwelve, on 22 March 2021 - 02:35 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 22 March 2021 - 01:40 PM, said:

Exactly.

Why not? You have the structures PO you can score right? You dont need his support to win.


Tatts can't score the structures PO, and has only one or two moves he can make before he can't score the CT one.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 03:27 PM

Unless Tatts has a bold secret plan, kinda feels like he should have taken Construction :p
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 03:58 PM

What do people make of 10 point games with prophecy of kings?

The creator recommends 14pt games with the expansion and I can see his point, the game feel like it has been sped up by the expansions additional powers.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 03:59 PM

I think in general the expansion has made the game more interesting and less stale, but it is MUCH harder to try and cover all the possible objectives.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 04:03 PM

No free refreshes for anyone except Tatts who is flipping my commodities. This is the last round, I only gave Tatts a free refresh as a direct response to his helping me.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 04:05 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 22 March 2021 - 03:58 PM, said:

What do people make of 10 point games with prophecy of kings?

The creator recommends 14pt games with the expansion and I can see his point, the game feel like it has been sped up by the expansions additional powers.


I would definitely like to try a 14 point game with the expansion. I have always found 10 point games too short - those 4 additional points would give the slower races more time to do something interesting.

Like, imagine if we had to deal with Titans for 2-3 more rounds?
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 04:07 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 22 March 2021 - 12:01 PM, said:

I can ignore that destroyer thing, I didn't particularly need it, but I am still annoyed you didn't confer with me first, Blend.


Sorry, tis the last round, Im not particularly interested in broadcasting my plans.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 04:13 PM

Let's not forget Morgoth has a Flank Speed, a Sabo and In The Silence of Space in his hand
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 04:18 PM

Also, Unknown Relic Fragment up for sale if anyone wants it. Priced to clear!
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 04:45 PM

View PostBlend, on 22 March 2021 - 04:18 PM, said:

Also, Unknown Relic Fragment up for sale if anyone wants it. Priced to clear!


Don't forget that morgoth can turn a relic fragment into a CT, price accordingly ;)
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 04:48 PM

View PostBlend, on 22 March 2021 - 04:05 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 22 March 2021 - 03:58 PM, said:

What do people make of 10 point games with prophecy of kings?

The creator recommends 14pt games with the expansion and I can see his point, the game feel like it has been sped up by the expansions additional powers.


I would definitely like to try a 14 point game with the expansion. I have always found 10 point games too short - those 4 additional points would give the slower races more time to do something interesting.

Like, imagine if we had to deal with Titans for 2-3 more rounds?


Yeah definitely some races are more suited to longer games. I think standard game length has probably gone down a turn. I could imagine winnu feasibily winning round 4 now, and theoretically a round 3(?!) victory is possible for them now.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 05:48 PM

Morgoth if you take Mallice I will retreat.

It's your turn now.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 06:01 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 22 March 2021 - 03:59 PM, said:

I think in general the expansion has made the game more interesting and less stale, but it is MUCH harder to try and cover all the possible objectives.


I really (still) want to try a forum game with the "Age of Empires" variant from 3rd edition where all the objectives are revealed at the start.

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View PostImperial Historian, on 22 March 2021 - 03:58 PM, said:

What do people make of 10 point games with prophecy of kings?

The creator recommends 14pt games with the expansion and I can see his point, the game feel like it has been sped up by the expansions additional powers.


I would definitely like to try a 14 point game with the expansion. I have always found 10 point games too short - those 4 additional points would give the slower races more time to do something interesting.

Like, imagine if we had to deal with Titans for 2-3 more rounds?


Yeah definitely some races are more suited to longer games. I think standard game length has probably gone down a turn. I could imagine winnu feasibily winning round 4 now, and theoretically a round 3(?!) victory is possible for them now.



Yeah, consensus online seems to be that with PoK games end a round earlier on average.

We've done 11 and 12 VP games on the forum before, maybe time to return to that idea after this.


There's a bunch of specific post-PoK thoughts and discussion I want to have at the end of this game about the new changes, so I will make a whole separate thread for it when this one finishes.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 06:29 PM

Looking forward to read that. Spectating this game has been pretty interesting, moreso than past games, I think.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 09:14 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 22 March 2021 - 05:48 PM, said:

Morgoth if you take Mallice I will retreat.

It's your turn now.


Morgoth, if Tatts really wants you to do something, it’s probably a safe bet that you should not do it ;)

I’m thinking Tatts wants to retreat his ships to form a five-ship fleet without expending a CT, but it could be even more nefarious!
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 09:19 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 22 March 2021 - 03:59 PM, said:

I think in general the expansion has made the game more interesting and less stale, but it is MUCH harder to try and cover all the possible objectives.


I very much agree with this. I’ve really enjoyed a lot of the new elements, though I probably short-changed myself slightly by not picking one of the new races as well.

The game does have a faster points-gaining pace to it (which is overall a positive I think). More of the objectives feel achievable, in part because all the races seem to have more flexibility now, and in part because there’s less likelihood of a tech objective coming out, which always tended to stump things in my experience.

But it also does feel like the game was just cranking up another gear and suddenly it’s over.
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Posted 23 March 2021 - 12:18 AM

Just cause no one else in my life will appreciate this. This guy on Reddit has been making TI4 sort of Propaganda posters. I'm quite enjoying them.

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Posted 23 March 2021 - 10:54 AM

Right, I'll get something in then. Sorry, things are quite hectic right now!
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