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Twilight Imperium VII: Revelations - Chatty Thread

#1841 User is offline   Blend 

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 05:19 PM

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 05:14 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 02 March 2021 - 04:37 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 04:08 PM, said:

Being blackmailed isn't making a deal. I couldn't trust you to honor your end of the deal because you already broke a deal with me. I also am not in a position to win. Even if I get a secret I can score or a stage 2 objective I can score you would all know and now with IHs Warsun right next to my homeworld and you in it I couldn't score. Once again Morgoth is going to win because people ignore him. I dont understand IHs fear of my capabilities as I have never won and Morgoth has won multiple games.


All you had to do was make me speaker, and you would still have a chance at a win.

If I make a threat, I will go through with it if I have to. I made it very clear that I would prevent you from any chance of winning if you didn't make me speaker, and even promised not to stand in your way if you had an obvious way to a win with your strategy choice. You may not believe me, but I would have kept my deal.

Your problem is that you're too rigid. The moment you decide you don't want to do something, you NEVER bend. This was an easy bend for you that wouldn't have cost you a thing, yet you decided to just throw away your game anyway. Not really my problem that you did so.

(Shakes my head in disbelief. Shrugs.) Do you not care that you are throwing away a point to do this?


The only way I win this game is if I get an extremely lucky 2VP PO AND a reasonable SO draw. Very unlikely. So my job, then, is to prevent as many others from winning for as long as I can. Plus, by taking your homeworld, I force you to take it back if you want to try for a win, which means you'll lose my Support too.

So, remember this in future games when you're yet again wallowing in defeat. When I make a threat, I will go through with it.

This post has been edited by Blend: 02 March 2021 - 05:21 PM

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 05:21 PM

I didn’t play Imperial, twelve
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 05:24 PM

Lessons learned from this game:
Blend will follow through on threats
Twelve does not respond well to blackmail
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 05:26 PM

*lessons
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 05:40 PM

please Dyand by = 'please stand by' with the wrong keys being hit?
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 05:54 PM

Blend can I use aetherstream so I can bring more infantry to Arnor lor?
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 05:55 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2021 - 05:54 PM, said:

Blend can I use aetherstream so I can bring more infantry to Arnor lor?


Yes, I'll message Drek to let her know.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 05:56 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 02 March 2021 - 05:19 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 05:11 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 02 March 2021 - 04:51 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 02 March 2021 - 04:46 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 02 March 2021 - 04:04 PM, said:

Khell why throw a ship away like that? You could have activated MR without moving a ship.


Perhaps that Destroyer is more than it seems...


Would you be amenable to exchanging ceasefire PN's and I give you 1 TG. I just do not like that fleet near my home system. I know it won't stop you using your hero but you may need that to stop Morgoth or others from winning.


Now where us that face palm emote?


I think he means if you decide to use mine, as I've activated MR.

I'm not using it. If you want to suicide ships so be it.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 05:57 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 02 March 2021 - 05:21 PM, said:

I didn’t play Imperial, twelve

I know. That is why I said to stand by
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:00 PM

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 05:56 PM, said:


I'm not using it. If you want to suicide ships so be it.



Yeah, that was me totally forgetting that you can actually activate systems without moving ships into them, and then trying to pass it off as a super-brain play to make you play the Ceasefire :D
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:01 PM

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 05:57 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 02 March 2021 - 05:21 PM, said:

I didn’t play Imperial, twelve

I know. That is why I said to stand by


That doesn't make sense...

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:01 PM

Oooh, I got a hit in!

Still no AFB though, what's that, 1 in 12 now? :p
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:03 PM

View PostD, on 02 March 2021 - 06:01 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 05:57 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 02 March 2021 - 05:21 PM, said:

I didn’t play Imperial, twelve

I know. That is why I said to stand by


That doesn't make sense...

It's not suppose to. It's more a reminder to myself not to miss the secondary for when he plays it.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:04 PM

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 06:03 PM, said:

View PostD, on 02 March 2021 - 06:01 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 05:57 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 02 March 2021 - 05:21 PM, said:

I didn’t play Imperial, twelve

I know. That is why I said to stand by


That doesn't make sense...

It's not suppose to. It's more a reminder to myself not to miss the secondary for when he plays it.


Neat! But Game Thread != Reminder-To-Myself Thread

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:08 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 02 March 2021 - 06:00 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 05:56 PM, said:


I'm not using it. If you want to suicide ships so be it.



Yeah, that was me totally forgetting that you can actually activate systems without moving ships into them, and then trying to pass it off as a super-brain play to make you play the Ceasefire :D


Yeah you should have said activate MR - wait to see if Twelve plays ceasefire
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:12 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 02 March 2021 - 06:08 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 02 March 2021 - 06:00 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 05:56 PM, said:


I'm not using it. If you want to suicide ships so be it.



Yeah, that was me totally forgetting that you can actually activate systems without moving ships into them, and then trying to pass it off as a super-brain play to make you play the Ceasefire :D


Yeah you should have said activate MR - wait to see if Twelve plays ceasefire


Well I should have done a lot of things!!
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:19 PM

Another lesson learned - aetherstream is now a strong contender for best tech. It would have been good if it was just your ships, the fact you can use it for yourself and any of your neighbours. Crazy good. I think mirror computing is still slightly better for it's ability to scoop up those late game VPs, but wow.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:19 PM

IH, you need to take Quann out of your dozens of controlled planets.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:23 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2021 - 06:19 PM, said:

Another lesson learned - aetherstream is now a strong contender for best tech. It would have been good if it was just your ships, the fact you can use it for yourself and any of your neighbours. Crazy good. I think mirror computing is still slightly better for it's ability to scoop up those late game VPs, but wow.



Aetherstream is OP in my view and makes getting around too easy for too many people. The bit I have most issue with is the 'adjacent to an anomaly' bit of the text - maybe it's our map, but pretty much everything is adjacent to an anomaly, there's hardly any limitation on using it. It makes a joke out of considering movement limitations, previously a significant tactical part of the game.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:27 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 02 March 2021 - 06:23 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2021 - 06:19 PM, said:

Another lesson learned - aetherstream is now a strong contender for best tech. It would have been good if it was just your ships, the fact you can use it for yourself and any of your neighbours. Crazy good. I think mirror computing is still slightly better for it's ability to scoop up those late game VPs, but wow.



Aetherstream is OP in my view and makes getting around too easy for too many people. The bit I have most issue with is the 'adjacent to an anomaly' bit of the text - maybe it's our map, but pretty much everything is adjacent to an anomaly, there's hardly any limitation on using it. It makes a joke out of considering movement limitations, previously a significant tactical part of the game.


It is a bit our map. I put a little bit more anomalies than usual in when building this map. Didn't have Aetherstream in mind at all when doing so. So yeah, ends up being that Aetherstream can apply to every non-anomaly system on the map except two at the very top, which is almost certainly more than a usual game (though note systems aren't adjacent to themselves, so Aetherstream is not useable for moving into an anomaly... but that doesn't happen very often).

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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