[Morgoth]

Uhm, what was the new objective?

[Khellendros]

Morgoth, on 02 February 2021 - 08:55 AM, said:

Uhm, what was the new objective?

Have a fleet of 5 non-fighter ships in one system.

[Khellendros]

If I was going to attack Rex you guys, I would have done it turn 1

[Tattersail_]

You don't need to attack Rex, despite all Twelve's efforts you may still own Rex at the end of the round.

[Khellendros]

@IH: Is there any counter-offer I can make for you not to send your scary War Sun to Perimeter? So far your allies' offer is zero, so I feel I have a low bar to beat

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 02 February 2021 - 10:05 AM, said:

@IH: Is there any counter-offer I can make for you not to send your scary War Sun to Perimeter? So far your allies' offer is zero, so I feel I have a low bar to beat

What are you offering? I'm trying to score points, so anything that aids that.

I'm happy to attack you and keep the game going for longer, but since everyone seems to be just letting you win, I guess I'll take payment which might score me points over just attacking you to let someone else have a chance of winning.

Alternatively if people are willing to give material support for an attack on Khell I will send my scary warsun to clip khells wings.

Twelve this move would almost guarantees you Rex (though admitedly you are actually doing something), but I think others should contribute as well.

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 02 February 2021 - 12:16 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 02 February 2021 - 10:05 AM, said:

@IH: Is there any counter-offer I can make for you not to send your scary War Sun to Perimeter? So far your allies' offer is zero, so I feel I have a low bar to beat

What are you offering? I'm trying to score points, so anything that aids that.

I'm happy to attack you and keep the game going for longer, but since everyone seems to be just letting you win, I guess I'll take payment which might score me points over just attacking you to let someone else have a chance of winning.

Alternatively if people are willing to give material support for an attack on Khell I will send my scary warsun to clip khells wings.

Twelve this move would almost guarantees you Rex (though admitedly you are actually doing something), but I think others should contribute as well.

Alrighty, so what will score you points? Other than the visible things I have, I can offer an action card which draws you another SO.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 02 February 2021 - 12:18 PM

[Khellendros]

I always forget, is it only Hacan who can offer those?

[Khellendros]

@IH: How about Hope's End? That damages me, aids you, you could easily take it with your War Sun, and I won't contest you for it in the future.

[Khellendros]

Oh, I'll throw in my much-coveted Trade PN, you give me a free refresh and you keep the TGs - that helps you towards the Amass Wealth PO.

[Blend]

Imperial Historian, on 02 February 2021 - 08:38 AM, said:

twelve, on 02 February 2021 - 08:11 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 February 2021 - 07:49 AM, said:

@twelve, if I agree to attack khells ships on perimeter will you agree to give me your ceasefire?

You know it's the right move for you to do and you know where my focus is already. Why do you demand I make myself vulnerable for doing something that is already in your best interest? And for me to have a shot at Rex that fleet of Khell's needs to be dealt with immediately. That is why you even brought it up. Right. You know how easy it will be for him to counter me. We have to work together. I'm leaving myself vulnerable to you and Blend to do my part and I haven't asked for your ceasefire. So no, I'm not giving it to you just to attack Perimiter.

Because you atracking rex ultimately benefits you with more potential VP, me attacking perimeter just exposes my warsun and doesn't put me any closer to scoring a PO.

Since no one seems interested in trade I need something to make it worth my while as I'll need to leave my territory vulnerable.

Since I acknowledge khell is running away with the game I'm willing to consider it but I need some support from everyone else.

Still willing to offer you a commodity for my refresh.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 02 February 2021 - 08:38 AM, said:

twelve, on 02 February 2021 - 08:11 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 February 2021 - 07:49 AM, said:

@twelve, if I agree to attack khells ships on perimeter will you agree to give me your ceasefire?

You know it's the right move for you to do and you know where my focus is already. Why do you demand I make myself vulnerable for doing something that is already in your best interest? And for me to have a shot at Rex that fleet of Khell's needs to be dealt with immediately. That is why you even brought it up. Right. You know how easy it will be for him to counter me. We have to work together. I'm leaving myself vulnerable to you and Blend to do my part and I haven't asked for your ceasefire. So no, I'm not giving it to you just to attack Perimiter.

Because you atracking rex ultimately benefits you with more potential VP, me attacking perimeter just exposes my warsun and doesn't put me any closer to scoring a PO.

Since no one seems interested in trade I need something to make it worth my while as I'll need to leave my territory vulnerable.

Since I acknowledge khell is running away with the game I'm willing to consider it but I need some support from everyone else.

I'll swap ceasefires with you but I'm not going to give it to you.

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 02 February 2021 - 03:02 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 February 2021 - 08:38 AM, said:

twelve, on 02 February 2021 - 08:11 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 February 2021 - 07:49 AM, said:

@twelve, if I agree to attack khells ships on perimeter will you agree to give me your ceasefire?

You know it's the right move for you to do and you know where my focus is already. Why do you demand I make myself vulnerable for doing something that is already in your best interest? And for me to have a shot at Rex that fleet of Khell's needs to be dealt with immediately. That is why you even brought it up. Right. You know how easy it will be for him to counter me. We have to work together. I'm leaving myself vulnerable to you and Blend to do my part and I haven't asked for your ceasefire. So no, I'm not giving it to you just to attack Perimiter.

Because you atracking rex ultimately benefits you with more potential VP, me attacking perimeter just exposes my warsun and doesn't put me any closer to scoring a PO.

Since no one seems interested in trade I need something to make it worth my while as I'll need to leave my territory vulnerable.

Since I acknowledge khell is running away with the game I'm willing to consider it but I need some support from everyone else.

I'll swap ceasefires with you but I'm not going to give it to you.

So that he can't oust you from Rex after you've ousted me? Hardly seems worth it, in my humbly unbiased opinion.

[twelve]

IH makes it sound like he will be doing everyone such a huge favor at great expense for himself. He has the most resources. Has Warsuns and has a near impenetrable pds network and yet still demands that I put myself at his mercy. His golden tongue is quite smooth.

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 02 February 2021 - 03:08 PM, said:

IH makes it sound like he will be doing everyone such a huge favor at great expense for himself. He has the most resources. Has Warsuns and has a near impenetrable pds network and yet still demands that I put myself at his mercy. His golden tongue is quite smooth.

He does it every single game that I've played in - hangs back just off the leaders in terms of points, build up his wealth, then provides his 'rescue service.' It's a good strategy!

[Blend]

Khellendros, on 02 February 2021 - 03:15 PM, said:

twelve, on 02 February 2021 - 03:08 PM, said:

IH makes it sound like he will be doing everyone such a huge favor at great expense for himself. He has the most resources. Has Warsuns and has a near impenetrable pds network and yet still demands that I put myself at his mercy. His golden tongue is quite smooth.

He does it every single game that I've played in - hangs back just off the leaders in terms of points, build up his wealth, then provides his 'rescue service.' It's a good strategy!

Yeah, until we all know that he's doing it and stop playing into his hand.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 02 February 2021 - 07:49 AM, said:

@blend will you let me use aetherstream to attack khell this turn on perimeter?

@twelve, if I agree to attack khells ships on perimeter will you agree to give me your ceasefire?

Blend I think IH is waiting on a response from you before doing his next move.

Not sure if you have seen this

[Tattersail_]

Khell when are you planning on playing Politics? Have you given much thought to letting me have speaker token?

Like I said I'd let you get the strategy you want, and willing to offer my votes to an agenda of your choice, maybe even throw in a TG too?

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 02 February 2021 - 03:47 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 February 2021 - 07:49 AM, said:

@blend will you let me use aetherstream to attack khell this turn on perimeter?

@twelve, if I agree to attack khells ships on perimeter will you agree to give me your ceasefire?

Blend I think IH is waiting on a response from you before doing his next move.

Not sure if you have seen this

Definitely missed that.

IH - how about you give me a free refresh for using my Aetherstream ability?

[Blend]

Why do you even need it though? There's nothing on Thibah, getting to Perimeter via Thibah takes the same amount of movement as going through the Beta wormhole would, wouldn't it?