[Blend]

The balanced Map Generator is here in case you want it: https://ti4-map-gene...rekpeterson.ca/

[Blend]

The only thing that stands out to me on that map is that starting position 1 seems kind of shafted regards actual planets near it compared to others.

[Morgoth]

Hm, that's fair! I can look at some hyperlane options and try to set up the final one tomorrow.

[Imperial Historian]

Also I'm all in favour of the return of mallice to the game!

[Morgoth]

I like Mallice, it's a cool addition I think.

[Morgoth]

here's the second one. I thinnk we'll go for this unless there are any serious protests?

https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

[Morgoth]

I'm thinking a regular snake draft. Choice between position or race or speaker where the first to chose is also the last to chose. Though I'm also thinking we should get a ban round in, so maybe every player gets to ban one race first, and then we do draft?

[Morgoth]

here's the order

• Tatts
• D'rek
• Blend
• Twelve
• IH

[Imperial Historian]

I liked the method we used last time, but I don't think there is any truly fair way of doing it!

[Imperial Historian]

That said the map this time looks very well balanced.

[Morgoth]

We've always played the regular snake draft in my group, and no bans, and it's never been an issue for us. But I think the malazan group believes much more strongly in the idea of races having hard counters. In my opinion there's very very few of those.

[Tattersail_]

Exciting! I can already hear IH clicking how to win this game without his serious rival. 3 games for Morgoth 3 games for IH and an impossible map. Going to have a think.

[Imperial Historian]

Have i wiped a game from my memory, I thought we'd only finished 5 games

[Galactic Council]

Though I suppose we could also make it so that when you pick a race you also get to ban a race, if you guys feel strongly about the counters and all.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 04 November 2020 - 09:25 AM, said:

Have i wiped a game from my memory, I thought we'd only finished 5 games

You're right.

Game 1 - winner IH
Game 2 - winner Morgoth
Game 3 - winner IH
Game 4A - unfinished
game 4B - unfinished
Game 4C - winner IH
game 5 - unfinished
game 5:Re - winner Morgoth

[D'rek]

I'm near the top of the random draw this time so I'm happy with this system

But yeah, getting a ban when you pick a faction might be a good way to incentivize picking faction early. When we've done snake drafts before we've almost always seen people pick HW / speaker first - seems like we think that matters much more when you're still going to have at least 12 factions to pick from afterward, so having fewer factions to pick from when it gets back to you later might make people go for faction earlier.

[D'rek]

And I think the new map looks good

[Morgoth]

D, on 04 November 2020 - 01:57 PM, said:

I'm near the top of the random draw this time so I'm happy with this system

But yeah, getting a ban when you pick a faction might be a good way to incentivize picking faction early. When we've done snake drafts before we've almost always seen people pick HW / speaker first - seems like we think that matters much more when you're still going to have at least 12 factions to pick from afterward, so having fewer factions to pick from when it gets back to you later might make people go for faction earlier.

That was my thought too. An idea for the next game maybe.

[twelve]

Map looks fun I'm down for ban in order. Them go back to the top and pick between speaker homeworld and race in snake draft order.