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Mafia 150 - Lockdown Hell

#1481 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 09:48 PM

It is day 6. 44 hours 50 minutes remaining.

8 players left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Hanas, Kilava, Venesara. 

5 votes to lynch.

3 votes for Gait; Fanderay, Aranatha, Okaros
2 votes Hanas; Gait, Kilava


Players not voted; Barghast, Hanas, Okaros, Venesara.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 27 May 2020 - 10:05 PM

View PostKilava, on 27 May 2020 - 08:17 PM, said:

that is a pretty solid analysis. the pieces do fall into place and I realllly agree that we should be looking at how kalse played.

i can barely remember what hanas is saying most of the time but i did a decent full read of kalse and I agree.

I think shelly was on poitn here as well, especially looking back.

also look at this recent hanas post:

View PostHanas, on 27 May 2020 - 05:54 PM, said:

Should at least have lynched Osseric if there wasn't enough to lynch me. Least optimal result for end of day.


either they totally misunderstand number balance / there's no CF with modkill or they are trying to waste the lynch on osseric. I also really hate any variant of "you should have lynched me".

vote hanas

this puts Hanas @ L-2 kind of early in the day...not sure if we want to leave that open, possible scum hammer. and would like to hear more from fandy and hanas anyway.

part of me still doesn't like L-2 with 2 scum around, though


What actually didn't make sense about Hanas's post was no matter who were attempting to lynch, there was only L-1 of us around (and Hanas was not among those)

Gait also has shown similar attitude of mentioning himself as a lynch candidate

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 11:19 PM

View PostHanas, on 14 May 2020 - 08:43 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on 14 May 2020 - 08:27 PM, said:

Votes 7-11: Aranatha, Ruse, Jalan, Prazec, Merrid.
At this stage of the train there are also three alternative suggestions: Merrid (from Okral), Thyr (from Barghast), Osseric (from Hanas).
Honorable mentions go to Venesara, who at L-1 and an hour or so to timeout was pondering what we're waiting for WITHOUT CASTING A VOTE and Hanas who was around before timeout but held with switching from Osseric until the lynch was already secured and gave some weird ass 'just in case of a miscount' justification.


If it had been needed I'd be enjoying you humbly licking my feet right about now.

Is anyone else confusing Tennes and Thyrllan or is it just me?


Yeah is anyone? I already had a pause over this when Hanas posted it. I don't see how anyone would really confuse the two.

Firstly, Tennes and Thyr had already been playing a very different games, while Thyr was on the posting style that got him lynched Tennes was on his reasonable thoughtful style, both rather distinct from each other I'd say

Like yeah the names both startb with T, have a double letter and an n in them, but they both still don't sound that similar to me, at least not in a way that'd make me confuse them. And their avatars are completely different. Hanas recently complained about posting on phone, so I'd say it's safe to assume they primarily use pc and hence usually see the avatars.

So I don't really see how anyone could have confused the two and this reads like a distancing attempt.

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 11:20 PM

That being said the pileup on Hanas earlier today was shady

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 11:52 PM

View PostAranatha, on 27 May 2020 - 09:43 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 27 May 2020 - 09:33 PM, said:

View PostGait, on 27 May 2020 - 07:51 PM, said:

473

This post is something I was puzzling over aswell.

TL;DR - Kalse was not happy to switch to Hanas. Kalse was infact reluctant to switch from Ven to Hanas and wanted to be on the Thyrllan train supposedly to avoid suspicion.

I'd argue Kalse was happier to vote Osseric than Hanas which in light of Osserics CF makes me think we may have had it right this time.

The Hanas vote should have gone through.


Kalse also never mentions Osseric in any substantive fashion that I can find.

Whoa interesting. Would like to hear Kilava's opinion on this, if nothing else just to watch them squirm.


why would I care about this exactly?

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 12:05 AM

View PostBarghast, on 27 May 2020 - 10:05 PM, said:

View PostKilava, on 27 May 2020 - 08:17 PM, said:

that is a pretty solid analysis. the pieces do fall into place and I realllly agree that we should be looking at how kalse played.

i can barely remember what hanas is saying most of the time but i did a decent full read of kalse and I agree.

I think shelly was on poitn here as well, especially looking back.

also look at this recent hanas post:

View PostHanas, on 27 May 2020 - 05:54 PM, said:

Should at least have lynched Osseric if there wasn't enough to lynch me. Least optimal result for end of day.


either they totally misunderstand number balance / there's no CF with modkill or they are trying to waste the lynch on osseric. I also really hate any variant of "you should have lynched me".

vote hanas

this puts Hanas @ L-2 kind of early in the day...not sure if we want to leave that open, possible scum hammer. and would like to hear more from fandy and hanas anyway.

part of me still doesn't like L-2 with 2 scum around, though


What actually didn't make sense about Hanas's post was no matter who were attempting to lynch, there was only L-1 of us around (and Hanas was not among those)

Gait also has shown similar attitude of mentioning himself as a lynch candidate


yes, of course that doesn't make sense, but what he SAYS because he doesn't understand is the important part. that's why I commented on it instead of talking syntax and miscounts or misreads blah blah. what you said is true but doesn't help us unless he posts about it (and he did).

as for gait -- historically -- I don't even know, he has been pretty much off my radar the whole game. the real truth is that on a quick scroll gait's and barg's avatar's look too similar and i usually reread with a purpose. now apparently he accidentally revealed that he knew osseric's CF even though we didn't get it because modkill. i didn't pick up on that. that would be a big deal.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 12:34 AM

View PostAranatha, on 27 May 2020 - 08:44 PM, said:

Huh, maybe Kalava and Hanas is the scum that's left?

I feel like it's a good analysis on Hanas overall. Definitely a possible scum, and since he's been so under the radar aswell.

Vote Hanas


That makes three votes, just fyi.


lol so now which one of us is not scum based on your comments here? now that you're voting gait? if you really think gait is scum then both me and hanas can't be scum, right? so will you say that I'm still scum blah blah - even though you and I both voted for hanas based on a case?

i'd love to hear more about this. if you actually think I'm scum then you've bounced to 3 targets in the last hour or so and there are only 7 of us (minus ven)...

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 12:35 AM

remove vote

going to chill out on this a minute. looks like everyone left anyway.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 12:42 AM

View PostKilava, on 28 May 2020 - 12:05 AM, said:

as for gait -- historically -- I don't even know, he has been pretty much off my radar the whole game. the real truth is that on a quick scroll gait's and barg's avatar's look too similar and i usually reread with a purpose. now apparently he accidentally revealed that he knew osseric's CF even though we didn't get it because modkill. i didn't pick up on that. that would be a big deal.


Okaros quots it right in the next post

View PostGait, on 27 May 2020 - 07:51 PM, said:

473

This post is something I was puzzling over aswell.

TL;DR - Kalse was not happy to switch to Hanas. Kalse was infact reluctant to switch from Ven to Hanas and wanted to be on the Thyrllan train supposedly to avoid suspicion.

I'd argue Kalse was happier to vote Osseric than Hanas which in light of Osserics CF makes me think we may have had it right this time.

The Hanas vote should have gone through.


(Gait realises it 9 minutes later)

View PostGait, on 27 May 2020 - 08:00 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 May 2020 - 06:15 PM, said:

Osseric has been Modkilled.


Forgot we didnt actually get a CF. I dont think it makes me doubt my read on the Kalse - Hanas thing but maybe I need to think it over some more.


But please do keep telling us how to read the thread

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 12:48 AM

View PostKilava, on 28 May 2020 - 12:34 AM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 27 May 2020 - 08:44 PM, said:

Huh, maybe Kalava and Hanas is the scum that's left?

I feel like it's a good analysis on Hanas overall. Definitely a possible scum, and since he's been so under the radar aswell.

Vote Hanas


That makes three votes, just fyi.


lol so now which one of us is not scum based on your comments here? now that you're voting gait? if you really think gait is scum then both me and hanas can't be scum, right? so will you say that I'm still scum blah blah - even though you and I both voted for hanas based on a case?

i'd love to hear more about this. if you actually think I'm scum then you've bounced to 3 targets in the last hour or so and there are only 7 of us (minus ven)...


Yeah Aranatha is generous with votes pointed and fingers thrown

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 04:07 AM

Well A few days back i'd support a vote on me because theres alot of distrust with me as a player despite my attempts to play a good town game and play openly and critically.

Now its a bit late in the game and I don't know if Town can afford it so I'll wash my hands.

Do what you got to do.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:26 AM

View PostKilava, on 28 May 2020 - 12:34 AM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 27 May 2020 - 08:44 PM, said:

Huh, maybe Kalava and Hanas is the scum that's left?

I feel like it's a good analysis on Hanas overall. Definitely a possible scum, and since he's been so under the radar aswell.

Vote Hanas


That makes three votes, just fyi.


lol so now which one of us is not scum based on your comments here? now that you're voting gait? if you really think gait is scum then both me and hanas can't be scum, right? so will you say that I'm still scum blah blah - even though you and I both voted for hanas based on a case?

i'd love to hear more about this. if you actually think I'm scum then you've bounced to 3 targets in the last hour or so and there are only 7 of us (minus ven)...

See now you're squirming. All I did was imply you could be scum, just like you're doing to me now. And I changed target because things were going a bit fast there, as Hanas pointed out. I baited and you apparently couldn't resists biting - is that how I should interpret this post? Really, I'm curious. What's going on buddy.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:28 AM

View PostBarghast, on 28 May 2020 - 12:48 AM, said:

View PostKilava, on 28 May 2020 - 12:34 AM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 27 May 2020 - 08:44 PM, said:

Huh, maybe Kalava and Hanas is the scum that's left?

I feel like it's a good analysis on Hanas overall. Definitely a possible scum, and since he's been so under the radar aswell.

Vote Hanas


That makes three votes, just fyi.


lol so now which one of us is not scum based on your comments here? now that you're voting gait? if you really think gait is scum then both me and hanas can't be scum, right? so will you say that I'm still scum blah blah - even though you and I both voted for hanas based on a case?

i'd love to hear more about this. if you actually think I'm scum then you've bounced to 3 targets in the last hour or so and there are only 7 of us (minus ven)...


Yeah Aranatha is generous with votes pointed and fingers thrown

Well sue me for actually wanting to get information and win this thing.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:35 AM

View PostGait, on 28 May 2020 - 04:07 AM, said:

Well A few days back i'd support a vote on me because theres alot of distrust with me as a player despite my attempts to play a good town game and play openly and critically.

Now its a bit late in the game and I don't know if Town can afford it so I'll wash my hands.

Do what you got to do.


What the fuck is up with this town fr

As a non PI your pool of suspects is one smaller than ours, maybe you could use that advantage to make a solid opinion on something that doesn't want to vote you for once?

So you've tried to play openly and critically but and now you're gonna resign because there's a distrust in you? Thinking you've done such a great job and were fucking up now? Well, maybe you haven't done such a great job. Under the littlest of pressures you crumble, literally start spouting bs all over the thread and can't see past the person pointing his finger in your face, all this resulting in a multiple day long spat with Tennessee that lead to us nearly lynching one of our cops - because we trusted you better - which resulted in the reveal and our healer losing his powers, while we could have been focusing our attention elsewhere. You can't walk away from this, claim you've "attempted" and was your hands. Even the votes on you rn are, surprisingly, result of your posting bs in thread. Did you expect us to PI you based on what exactly? Your vote on Thyr does help your case a lot, but with 4 killers it's not something we can rely on, and just because we don't reply/mention/comment on/celebrate each of your posts doesn't mean we're not reading them or considering them. Fucking joke. You can wash your hands alright but you're in this shit up to your chin bro.

Now I'm not saying you're the reason why we haven't caught scum yet or anything, or claim that I or anyone is playing a better game, we're imo playing a pretty shitty game as town collectively, ofc there's a lot of shit that doesn't help, but the situation you're in was caused by you as much as us, you have one less suspect to consider, stop fucking whining and find scum if you wanna be useful, and again I'm saying this because I do actually have some trust in your towniness. We haven't distrusted you enough to lynch you yet which is more than quite a few ri can say this game. Fucksake

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:36 AM

View PostAranatha, on 28 May 2020 - 09:28 AM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 28 May 2020 - 12:48 AM, said:

View PostKilava, on 28 May 2020 - 12:34 AM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 27 May 2020 - 08:44 PM, said:

Huh, maybe Kalava and Hanas is the scum that's left?

I feel like it's a good analysis on Hanas overall. Definitely a possible scum, and since he's been so under the radar aswell.

Vote Hanas


That makes three votes, just fyi.


lol so now which one of us is not scum based on your comments here? now that you're voting gait? if you really think gait is scum then both me and hanas can't be scum, right? so will you say that I'm still scum blah blah - even though you and I both voted for hanas based on a case?

i'd love to hear more about this. if you actually think I'm scum then you've bounced to 3 targets in the last hour or so and there are only 7 of us (minus ven)...


Yeah Aranatha is generous with votes pointed and fingers thrown

Well sue me for actually wanting to get information and win this thing.


Well I appreciate he pressure votes

That doesn't mean I can't be suspicious of them at the same time

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:40 AM

@Barghast:

What are your thoughts on Gait’s Osseric CF comments? Genuine mistake or accidentally revealed knowledge?

@Gait: Why not at least try to explain what you were chatting about with Kalse supposedly being suspicious of Osseric, when they hardly ever mentioned them at all?

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:44 AM

View PostOkaros, on 27 May 2020 - 09:14 PM, said:

Errr... did Gait just reveal knowledge of a CF we didn’t get???


Since Gait's only response is to... walk away and cry about our distrust...

I also tend to think of modkills as ris sometimes. There's the first obvious point that thinking about them as scum doesn't help anything, and since our roles have apparently been resolved ris are all that's left. Then there's the point of the wording "roleless", a missing role in the cf kinda leads my inner processes to put said cf in the roleless category

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:46 AM

Cross post but yeah could easily be both imo

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:46 AM

Esp considering how many mistakes he has made

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:48 AM

View PostBarghast, on 28 May 2020 - 09:36 AM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 28 May 2020 - 09:28 AM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 28 May 2020 - 12:48 AM, said:

View PostKilava, on 28 May 2020 - 12:34 AM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 27 May 2020 - 08:44 PM, said:

Huh, maybe Kalava and Hanas is the scum that's left?

I feel like it's a good analysis on Hanas overall. Definitely a possible scum, and since he's been so under the radar aswell.

Vote Hanas


That makes three votes, just fyi.


lol so now which one of us is not scum based on your comments here? now that you're voting gait? if you really think gait is scum then both me and hanas can't be scum, right? so will you say that I'm still scum blah blah - even though you and I both voted for hanas based on a case?

i'd love to hear more about this. if you actually think I'm scum then you've bounced to 3 targets in the last hour or so and there are only 7 of us (minus ven)...


Yeah Aranatha is generous with votes pointed and fingers thrown

Well sue me for actually wanting to get information and win this thing.


Well I appreciate he pressure votes

That doesn't mean I can't be suspicious of them at the same time

Sure, I can appreciate that.

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