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#2901 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 03:32 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 21 February 2020 - 03:27 PM, said:

I am taking Logistics at the moment. I just want to hash some stuff out with Tapper.



Didn’t you get the memo? No one cares anymore. We’re giving the game to Toaster, so just choose whatever. It’s not like you’ll be able to score anything anyway, as Naalu’s 0 initiative will win before you can.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:05 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 21 February 2020 - 03:27 PM, said:

I am taking Logistics at the moment. I just want to hash some stuff out with Tapper.


You have a responsibility. If you didn't want it, you should't have made yourself Speaker.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:30 PM

Haha what is happening. Khell lost all AC, is not getting logistics.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:33 PM

View PostToasTer86, on 21 February 2020 - 04:30 PM, said:

Haha what is happening. Khell lost all AC, is not getting logistics.


All your wishes are coming true.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:33 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:25 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:16 PM, said:

For what it’s worth, one of the cards I’ve discarded is Flank Speed, so I can no longer reach Toaster’s homeworld.


You could with Logistics, or an Unexpected Action.


I can't, as I have to go through the Nebula which limits my movement to 1. Flank Speed would have raised that to 2.


Warfare?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:34 PM

What are the rules for gaining extra movement from the nebula? Does warfare/gravity drive/flank speed give you additional movement?
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:34 PM

The only thing that can stop you is, of course, the original plan of Morgoth invading your home system.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:35 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 February 2020 - 04:34 PM, said:

What are the rules for gaining extra movement from the nebula? Does warfare/gravity drive/flank speed give you additional movement?


Yes it does. You start from a base of 1 on all ships, but action cards, Warfare can give you extra movement. I used exactly that when I was Saar to take Tatts’ homeworld by surprise.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:36 PM

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:25 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:16 PM, said:

For what it’s worth, one of the cards I’ve discarded is Flank Speed, so I can no longer reach Toaster’s homeworld.


You could with Logistics, or an Unexpected Action.


I can't, as I have to go through the Nebula which limits my movement to 1. Flank Speed would have raised that to 2.


Warfare?


He has to have logistics to move in then move out.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:36 PM

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:25 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:16 PM, said:

For what it’s worth, one of the cards I’ve discarded is Flank Speed, so I can no longer reach Toaster’s homeworld.


You could with Logistics, or an Unexpected Action.


I can't, as I have to go through the Nebula which limits my movement to 1. Flank Speed would have raised that to 2.


Warfare?


Can’t do it in one go as you HAVE TO stop in the nebula. With Unexpected Action I could, but I don’t have that.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:36 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 February 2020 - 04:34 PM, said:

What are the rules for gaining extra movement from the nebula? Does warfare/gravity drive/flank speed give you additional movement?


IIRC the official rules say yes. The Nebula makes the movement printed on your unit's card be equal to 1, but then all the usual additions to it can still apply after.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:36 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 04:36 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:25 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:16 PM, said:

For what it’s worth, one of the cards I’ve discarded is Flank Speed, so I can no longer reach Toaster’s homeworld.


You could with Logistics, or an Unexpected Action.


I can't, as I have to go through the Nebula which limits my movement to 1. Flank Speed would have raised that to 2.


Warfare?


Can’t do it in one go as you HAVE TO stop in the nebula. With Unexpected Action I could, but I don’t have that.


I see. Well then you should still take Warfare and use it to stop Morgoth. Leave Toaster to Nom and me, I guess.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:37 PM

I could attempt to go around the nebula, but I would again need Logistics AND I would have to fight basically all of Toaster’s forces :p
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:38 PM

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 04:36 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 04:36 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:25 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:16 PM, said:

For what it’s worth, one of the cards I’ve discarded is Flank Speed, so I can no longer reach Toaster’s homeworld.


You could with Logistics, or an Unexpected Action.


I can't, as I have to go through the Nebula which limits my movement to 1. Flank Speed would have raised that to 2.


Warfare?


Can’t do it in one go as you HAVE TO stop in the nebula. With Unexpected Action I could, but I don’t have that.


I see. Well then you should still take Warfare and use it to stop Morgoth. Leave Toaster to Nom and me, I guess.


That’s another option. But who then stops you if Tatts doesn’t take Imperial?
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:39 PM

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 04:36 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 04:36 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:25 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:16 PM, said:

For what it’s worth, one of the cards I’ve discarded is Flank Speed, so I can no longer reach Toaster’s homeworld.


You could with Logistics, or an Unexpected Action.


I can't, as I have to go through the Nebula which limits my movement to 1. Flank Speed would have raised that to 2.


Warfare?


Can’t do it in one go as you HAVE TO stop in the nebula. With Unexpected Action I could, but I don’t have that.


I see. Well then you should still take Warfare and use it to stop Morgoth. Leave Toaster to Nom and me, I guess.


I think he'd need logistics to reach Morgoth's homeworld.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:39 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 04:37 PM, said:

I could attempt to go around the nebula, but I would again need Logistics AND I would have to fight basically all of Toaster’s forces :p


Yeah that, do that. if you draw his forces out it makes it easier for others to hit his HW

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:40 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 04:38 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 04:36 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 04:36 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:25 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 February 2020 - 03:16 PM, said:

For what it’s worth, one of the cards I’ve discarded is Flank Speed, so I can no longer reach Toaster’s homeworld.


You could with Logistics, or an Unexpected Action.


I can't, as I have to go through the Nebula which limits my movement to 1. Flank Speed would have raised that to 2.


Warfare?


Can’t do it in one go as you HAVE TO stop in the nebula. With Unexpected Action I could, but I don’t have that.


I see. Well then you should still take Warfare and use it to stop Morgoth. Leave Toaster to Nom and me, I guess.


That’s another option. But who then stops you if Tatts doesn’t take Imperial?


Well, Twelve/Tatts could go for my HW. But better if Tatts just plays with dignity and takes Imperial.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:41 PM

View PostD, on 21 February 2020 - 04:36 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 February 2020 - 04:34 PM, said:

What are the rules for gaining extra movement from the nebula? Does warfare/gravity drive/flank speed give you additional movement?


IIRC the official rules say yes. The Nebula makes the movement printed on your unit's card be equal to 1, but then all the usual additions to it can still apply after.


Correct!
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 05:54 PM

Don't forget you loose a fleet token each time you activate my systems with a ship. I have a cruiser in that nebulae. And quite some ground forces on my home system
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 06:16 PM

View PostToasTer86, on 21 February 2020 - 05:54 PM, said:

Don't forget you loose a fleet token each time you activate my systems with a ship. I have a cruiser in that nebulae. And quite some ground forces on my home system


Yes I was aware of that and had previously taken it into account. Probably all a moot point now.
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