[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 18 February 2020 - 03:14 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 18 February 2020 - 02:36 PM, said:

Still missing votes from 2 of 8 players who can vote!

I'm one of the two, and I'll be waiting till we finalise any plans, as the agenda phase is the only time we can all swap/give stuff to each other.

Makes sense. I'm willing to contribute TGs, my strategy card pick, I can throw in some forces against some planets (and potentially my sftt if twelve agrees). I could attack Toaster's homeworld in very specific circumstances with a lot of infantry, but doubt I'll be able to get rid of the ships in the way.

That said I think Morgoth should be contributing something as he and D'rek are in prime postion to take advantage of Toaster not winning.


Racing through the action card deck with the FOR agenda and potentially drawing the -1CT card twice could stop Toaster winning as well.

[Tattersail_]

Toaster if you want me to prevent D'rek from gaining Imperial, I require your gift. If not, I am picking Logistics.

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 18 February 2020 - 03:14 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 18 February 2020 - 02:36 PM, said:

Still missing votes from 2 of 8 players who can vote!

I'm one of the two, and I'll be waiting till we finalise any plans, as the agenda phase is the only time we can all swap/give stuff to each other.

Makes sense

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 18 February 2020 - 03:36 PM, said:

Toaster if you want me to prevent D'rek from gaining Imperial, I require your gift. If not, I am picking Logistics.

If you pick Logistics then that's any plan of mine to scupper Toaster winning done, so I don't see how this is supposed to convince Toaster to give you Prescience.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 18 February 2020 - 03:47 PM

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 18 February 2020 - 03:47 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 February 2020 - 03:36 PM, said:

Toaster if you want me to prevent D'rek from gaining Imperial, I require your gift. If not, I am picking Logistics.

If you pick Logistics then that's any plan of mine to scupper Toaster winning done, so I don't see how this is supposed to convince Toaster to give you Prescience.

Tell the world why don't you.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 18 February 2020 - 03:52 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 18 February 2020 - 03:47 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 February 2020 - 03:36 PM, said:

Toaster if you want me to prevent D'rek from gaining Imperial, I require your gift. If not, I am picking Logistics.

If you pick Logistics then that's any plan of mine to scupper Toaster winning done, so I don't see how this is supposed to convince Toaster to give you Prescience.

Tell the world why don't you.

Tell the world what? He already knows that.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 18 February 2020 - 03:04 PM, said:

Could you win with it D'rek?

Score 16 influence, Mec Rex point and 6 tokens.

I'd be last in initiative order, so only if no one else reached 12 VP this round. But yes, technically I can do this. I'd have to do very little, though, as I don't have enough influence to buy very many CTs after spending them all on the 16 influence PO.

[Tattersail_]

D, on 18 February 2020 - 04:00 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 February 2020 - 03:04 PM, said:

Could you win with it D'rek?

Score 16 influence, Mec Rex point and 6 tokens.

I'd be last in initiative order, so only if no one else reached 12 VP this round. But yes, technically I can do this. I'd have to do very little, though, as I don't have enough influence to buy very many CTs after spending them all on the 16 influence PO.

You get 3 tokens from tech don't you. You currently have 6, and gain 3 from tech. So you could do all stall action cards, and 3 actions and still be able to discard 6 tokens. You certainly have the influence.

[ToasTer86]

If you all stop me I predict d'rek will win.

With no chance of pulling her off Mecatol and her having more then enough tokens.

So to the table. Just choose who you want to win.

I hate this end game King making

[Tattersail_]

ToasTer86, on 18 February 2020 - 04:15 PM, said:

If you all stop me I predict d'rek will win.

With no chance of pulling her off Mecatol and her having more then enough tokens.

So to the table. Just choose who you want to win.

I hate this end game King making

With your gift I will take Imperial. She then cannot win. No way Jose

[ToasTer86]

Tattersail_, on 18 February 2020 - 04:26 PM, said:

ToasTer86, on 18 February 2020 - 04:15 PM, said:

If you all stop me I predict d'rek will win.

With no chance of pulling her off Mecatol and her having more then enough tokens.

So to the table. Just choose who you want to win.

I hate this end game King making

With your gift I will take Imperial. She then cannot win. No way Jose

Nope. I will let the table decide if they want D'Rek to win or me.

People should calculate D'Rek path to victory. With imperial her path is secure as well.

Then make a plan to stap me AND D'Rek if they want to have another round.

She is perfectly manipulating the table to do her work. As 2nd/3rd in place. And will steal the victory once everyone burns their tokens and action cards on me.

So don't just think about stopping me. Please stop D'Rek as well.
Not even checking Morgoth yet. But D'Rek is I think in a better position then Morgoth.

This post has been edited by ToasTer86: 18 February 2020 - 05:16 PM

[Khellendros]

Plan for stopping D'rek is Twelve and Tatts teaming up for one of them to take her homeworld (and/or Nom coming through the wormhole to take her on). Alternatively, I can take a stab at taking Mec Rex if IH/Morgoth/Nom are able to hinder Toaster enough on their own. Though I suspect that IH may possibly be making his own plans for Mec Rex.

[ToasTer86]

Khellendros, on 18 February 2020 - 06:04 PM, said:

Plan for stopping D'rek is Twelve and Tatts teaming up for one of them to take her homeworld (and/or Nom coming through the wormhole to take her on). Alternatively, I can take a stab at taking Mec Rex if IH/Morgoth/Nom are able to hinder Toaster enough on their own. Though I suspect that IH may possibly be making his own plans for Mec Rex.

She will just burn a strategy token and use the xxxcha racial

[twelve]

ToasTer86, on 18 February 2020 - 06:09 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 18 February 2020 - 06:04 PM, said:

Plan for stopping D'rek is Twelve and Tatts teaming up for one of them to take her homeworld (and/or Nom coming through the wormhole to take her on). Alternatively, I can take a stab at taking Mec Rex if IH/Morgoth/Nom are able to hinder Toaster enough on their own. Though I suspect that IH may possibly be making his own plans for Mec Rex.

She will just burn a strategy token and use the xxxcha racial

She can only do it once. She'll have to pick either Rex or her homeworld to burn it on.

[ToasTer86]

It is impossible to stop me and D'Rek and I don't see how anyone who can't score 2 points this round or has at least 7+ points can still have a chance. Seeing the tech and position D'Rek has.

So just decide. Yes I have the clearest path to victory, so stop me if you must. But this game will most likely still be decided by D'Rek this round. Or otherwise next round. With imperial, loads of tokens and Mecatol Rex.

I was able to score consistently , by trading communicating and striking good deals. I am proud what I did and where I am. Ashame the state of the board is now such where I seem like a prime suspect . While all in all from the start it was the map build, race setup and wartorn south and starting positions that led to this .

I for one will not king make anyone and just stick to my own game. As I would have had even if I was not in the lead.

So to Khell, IH , Twelve , Tatts, Tapper , Nom decide who you want to have win. Me or D'Rek

Even more so to Morgoth. Think of your own position and what you want. Not what the rest needs from you.

This post has been edited by ToasTer86: 19 February 2020 - 11:48 AM

[Khellendros]

ToasTer86, on 19 February 2020 - 11:46 AM, said:

It is impossible to stop me and D'Rek and I don't see how anyone who can't score 2 points this round or has at least 7+ points can still have a chance. Seeing the tech and position D'Rek has.

So just decide. Yes I have the clearest path to victory, so stop me if you must. But this game will most likely still be decided by D'Rek this round. Or otherwise next round. With imperial, loads of tokens and Mecatol Rex.

I was able to score consistently , by trading communicating and striking good deals. I am proud what I did and where I am. Ashame the state of the board is now such where I seem like a prime suspect . While all in all from the start it was the map build, race setup and wartorn south and starting positions that led to this .

I for one will not king make anyone and just stick to my own game. As I would have had even if I was not in the lead.

So to Khell, IH , Twelve , Tatts, Tapper , Nom decide who you want to have win. Me or D'Rek

Even more so to Morgoth. Think of your own position and what you want. Not what the rest needs from you.

A stirring, heartfelt speech. If the Letnev had tear ducts, they would be welling up.

However, the reason I'm going through all this now is not because I want to be some kind of kingmaker, to me it makes no difference whether you or D'rek or anyone other than myself wins. But I'm also not prepared to just sit down and shut up because I only have an outside shot at winning now - that would also be kingmaking. What I need to do is extend the game and try to make sure no one can win this round. I do think both you and D'rek can be stopped from attaining 12VP this round, though it will be hard and the odds are low.

You have played a very good game, Toaster, and it's been fun to have you in the game. But D'rek has also played well. And so has Morgoth, and IH. I'm pleased with my own game and the only thing I feel shafted by is the luck of the PO draw. So whoever ends up winning, GG to them.

[Khellendros]

Alright, let's make some concrete demands requests:

- Logistics card is the obvious one (Tapper, Tatts, D'rek, Twelve, IH are you happy to give me that?).
- I need TECH to be played by the third turn at the latest probably.
- TGs/Trade Agreements - I estimate over 20TGs in losses, therefore I would like the extremely generous amount of 12TGs in current or future TGs to be handed to me this phase. IH, Tapper, Tattersail, you have the most in current TGs, how much are you willing to hand over, if anything? From the rest (and you guys), as I said, I will accept TAs as well if you wish to contribute to the galactic war effort.
- No moves of any kind on my planets from the 'allied' forces.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 19 February 2020 - 12:24 PM

[Tapper]

Khellendros, on 19 February 2020 - 12:23 PM, said:

Alright, let's make some concrete demands requests:

- Logistics card is the obvious one (Tapper, Tatts, D'rek, Twelve, IH are you happy to give me that?).
- I need TECH to be played by the third turn at the latest probably.
- TGs/Trade Agreements - I estimate over 20TGs in losses, therefore I would like the extremely generous amount of 12TGs in current or future TGs to be handed to me this phase. IH, Tapper, Tattersail, you have the most in current TGs, how much are you willing to hand over, if anything? From the rest (and you guys), as I said, I will accept TAs as well if you wish to contribute to the galactic war effort.
- No moves of any kind on my planets from the 'allied' forces.

To the best of my knowledge, I retain Leadership, so sure, I won't take Logistics. I therefore also have 0 control over Tech.
I'll hand over 4 TGs after the replacement costs of your losses exceed that amount or more.
I'll not attack your planets.

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 19 February 2020 - 12:23 PM, said:

Alright, let's make some concrete demands requests:

- Logistics card is the obvious one (Tapper, Tatts, D'rek, Twelve, IH are you happy to give me that?).
- I need TECH to be played by the third turn at the latest probably.
- TGs/Trade Agreements - I estimate over 20TGs in losses, therefore I would like the extremely generous amount of 12TGs in current or future TGs to be handed to me this phase. IH, Tapper, Tattersail, you have the most in current TGs, how much are you willing to hand over, if anything? From the rest (and you guys), as I said, I will accept TAs as well if you wish to contribute to the galactic war effort.
- No moves of any kind on my planets from the 'allied' forces.

Logistics, sure.

I can offer 5 TG (in the form of mine and twelve's TA), or TG once you have engaged in this battle.

I promise not to make any moves on your planets

[Imperial Historian]

ToasTer86, on 19 February 2020 - 11:46 AM, said:

It is impossible to stop me and D'Rek and I don't see how anyone who can't score 2 points this round or has at least 7+ points can still have a chance. Seeing the tech and position D'Rek has.

So just decide. Yes I have the clearest path to victory, so stop me if you must. But this game will most likely still be decided by D'Rek this round. Or otherwise next round. With imperial, loads of tokens and Mecatol Rex.

I was able to score consistently , by trading communicating and striking good deals. I am proud what I did and where I am. Ashame the state of the board is now such where I seem like a prime suspect . While all in all from the start it was the map build, race setup and wartorn south and starting positions that led to this .

I for one will not king make anyone and just stick to my own game. As I would have had even if I was not in the lead.

So to Khell, IH , Twelve , Tatts, Tapper , Nom decide who you want to have win. Me or D'Rek

Even more so to Morgoth. Think of your own position and what you want. Not what the rest needs from you.

I'm looking at maximising my points. If you score 2VP and win the game, I can't score anything as you score before me. If d'rek wins the game with imperial I will be able to score in the status phase and thus will have more points at the end of the game. If you hand me your racial we have no quarrel.