[Rikkter]

Ok,
Just had a couple drinks and I’ve decided to reveal as a carrot.

Ok seriously expect a drunk reread with comments as I go.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 09:58 PM, said:

I suppose the info gained would be if Barghast had come up scum and then there was no kill (because with one scum left, a guard could work), but as you say, that info would be seen on thread, not also given to the guard as a message, usually.

Yup. This.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Venesara, on 20 August 2019 - 09:57 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 20 August 2019 - 09:23 PM, said:

I guess I should just shut up then, huh? Still rereading sporadically on my phone as the day goes, but obviously doing a bang up job.

Haven't given up. Still rereading and thinking. Focus less on telling me to man up and do something yourself.

Don't fall into this same GL bullshit. Just quit doing it, if you really are the guard then man the fuck up like you care about town winning instead of just staying alive for another day. One of the worst parts of your reveal is the "Oh, you have to keep me around till the very end of the game or my ability won't work." Convenient.

And no, you should not sulk and stop playing because no one believes you, or whatever.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Venesara, on 20 August 2019 - 09:57 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 20 August 2019 - 09:23 PM, said:

I guess I should just shut up then, huh? Still rereading sporadically on my phone as the day goes, but obviously doing a bang up job.

Haven't given up. Still rereading and thinking. Focus less on telling me to man up and do something yourself.

Don't fall into this same GL bullshit. Just quit doing it, if you really are the guard then man the fuck up like you care about town winning instead of just staying alive for another day. One of the worst parts of your reveal is the "Oh, you have to keep me around till the very end of the game or my ability won't work." Convenient.

And no, you should not sulk and stop playing because no one believes you, or whatever.

Haven't given up. Still rereading and thinking. Focus less on telling me to man up and do something yourself.

Repost with my comment in the correct place. Damn mobile posting.

[Gamelon]

Kilava, on 14 August 2019 - 04:54 PM, said:

It's either vote for gait if he's about to get modkilled or we could vote no lynch I guess - How much time until he's modkilled? Path-Shaper can you confirm?

“Please don’t lynch my partner before they even turn up!”

Heh, can’t help but read it that way

[Gait]

Rikkter, on 20 August 2019 - 09:59 PM, said:

Ok,
Just had a couple drinks and I’ve decided to reveal as a carrot.

Ok seriously expect a drunk reread with comments as I go.

It turns out that path-shaper is scum.

[Gamelon]

Interesting to note that Gait’s vote for Rikkter on day 1 was actually a crosspost with Barghast changing their vote to Rikkter - so Gait thought they were putting the 3rd vote (of 6 needed) on Rikkter with ten minutes to go, rather than the 4th as it turned out. So a ‘safer’ risk were they to be partners.

I’m just noting stuff of interest for now and will eventually, hopefully, reach a conclusion. I would also like it to be noted that I’m doing this at half 1 in the morning

[Kilava]

Gamelon, you're hilarious. But Rikkter is beating you with the comedy. At this point you can start to wonder if he's actually drunk or just pretending.


Anyway, I was rereading the thread and I know this might come off as OMGUS but Both Prazec and Venesara has been saying Gamelon is scum several times, so I'm not the only one to think that's the case. I found this gem:

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 04:32 PM, said:

I said I’d be posting more rarely, not that I’d be gone. So Shel does reveal...great. 8 town, 2 roles? Mayyyybe. If, as Shel says, one of them is pointless until a scum dies. Gonna have to think on it.May I also point out that were it not for me refusing to vote Shelly they’d be easily lynched right now? :pSpeaking of, did you guys get a lynch?

Which raises the question if we can trust Shel or not and secondly if Gamelon is so sure about Shel because he knows something we don't? Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[Kilava]

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 09:27 PM, said:

Well, at least if Gait and Shel are partners they are really putting in the hours to distance from each other

For the record, I am not discounting Shel at all (or Rikkter for that matter), and I’m now going to start a reread. The reason why I didn’t like a Shel lynch yesterday is because it seemed the exact same situation as Galayn Lord’s lynch - a low poster being chosen because they were low-hanging fruit. But Shel’s really...come out of their shell today.

NGL this hindsight argument is very easy to make after the fact since Shel's reveal. You seem to have trouble getting the arguments down, and all you can say is 'this person seems like scum'. Well, that doesn't cut it, and it seems really suspicious IMO.

[Gamelon]

Kilava, on 15 August 2019 - 07:17 PM, said:

People have been pointing out that some haven't been engaging or saying much in their posts, which I think is a fair point. There's also a point to be made that scum is less likely to willfully ruffle any feathers as not to draw any attention. Or they could simply be playing carefully. This the second day, nothing jumps out at me too much as of yet, albeit some interesting pushes going on. I'd like to hear more arguments from people.
As for myself, I'm still leaning towards Sheltatha for previous reasons as they still stand, although I would like GL and Gamelon actually try to contribute something and not just rush in with their hitherto seemingly randomness. For instance Gamelon's vote for Prazec came off very random, as Prazec barely has said anything.

This post could not be more wishy washy if it tried. The first paragraph is quite pointless, and the second asks for more contributions from other people without contributing anything themselves (this was Kilava’s second post of day 2, the first just being along the lines of “I’m here now”).

[Gamelon]

Kilava, on 20 August 2019 - 10:41 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 09:27 PM, said:

Well, at least if Gait and Shel are partners they are really putting in the hours to distance from each other

For the record, I am not discounting Shel at all (or Rikkter for that matter), and I’m now going to start a reread. The reason why I didn’t like a Shel lynch yesterday is because it seemed the exact same situation as Galayn Lord’s lynch - a low poster being chosen because they were low-hanging fruit. But Shel’s really...come out of their shell today.

NGL this hindsight argument is very easy to make after the fact since Shel's reveal. You seem to have trouble getting the arguments down, and all you can say is 'this person seems like scum'. Well, that doesn't cut it, and it seems really suspicious IMO.

Heh, speak of the devil. I’m not getting any conclusive arguments down so far, and I’ve been upfront about that. I am about a third of the way through the thread and so far you’re not looking amazing out of the four suspects.

[Kilava]

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 10:43 PM, said:

Kilava, on 15 August 2019 - 07:17 PM, said:

People have been pointing out that some haven't been engaging or saying much in their posts, which I think is a fair point. There's also a point to be made that scum is less likely to willfully ruffle any feathers as not to draw any attention. Or they could simply be playing carefully. This the second day, nothing jumps out at me too much as of yet, albeit some interesting pushes going on. I'd like to hear more arguments from people.
As for myself, I'm still leaning towards Sheltatha for previous reasons as they still stand, although I would like GL and Gamelon actually try to contribute something and not just rush in with their hitherto seemingly randomness. For instance Gamelon's vote for Prazec came off very random, as Prazec barely has said anything.

This post could not be more wishy washy if it tried. The first paragraph is quite pointless, and the second asks for more contributions from other people without contributing anything themselves (this was Kilava’s second post of day 2, the first just being along the lines of “I’m here now”).

I'd say I'm leagues and bounds less wishy washy than some of your posts - and asking for people do actually contribute isn't pointless, it's absolutely necessary to find anything out. Not to mention, my point about you voting for Prazec when he hadn't even said much at all at that point is very valid - at least try to argue for why you're voting for someone - it's not too much to ask. As for my contribution, I sure as hell contributed more than you did, so there goes that argument.

[Kilava]

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 10:46 PM, said:

Kilava, on 20 August 2019 - 10:41 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 09:27 PM, said:

Well, at least if Gait and Shel are partners they are really putting in the hours to distance from each other

For the record, I am not discounting Shel at all (or Rikkter for that matter), and I’m now going to start a reread. The reason why I didn’t like a Shel lynch yesterday is because it seemed the exact same situation as Galayn Lord’s lynch - a low poster being chosen because they were low-hanging fruit. But Shel’s really...come out of their shell today.

NGL this hindsight argument is very easy to make after the fact since Shel's reveal. You seem to have trouble getting the arguments down, and all you can say is 'this person seems like scum'. Well, that doesn't cut it, and it seems really suspicious IMO.

Heh, speak of the devil. I’m not getting any conclusive arguments down so far, and I’ve been upfront about that. I am about a third of the way through the thread and so far you’re not looking amazing out of the four suspects.

Right, no conclusive arguments, why am I not surprised. You seem to have very developed opinions about people, but you can't say anything conclusive? As I said, you're a comedian.

[Gamelon]

Kilava, on 20 August 2019 - 10:50 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 10:43 PM, said:

Kilava, on 15 August 2019 - 07:17 PM, said:

People have been pointing out that some haven't been engaging or saying much in their posts, which I think is a fair point. There's also a point to be made that scum is less likely to willfully ruffle any feathers as not to draw any attention. Or they could simply be playing carefully. This the second day, nothing jumps out at me too much as of yet, albeit some interesting pushes going on. I'd like to hear more arguments from people.
As for myself, I'm still leaning towards Sheltatha for previous reasons as they still stand, although I would like GL and Gamelon actually try to contribute something and not just rush in with their hitherto seemingly randomness. For instance Gamelon's vote for Prazec came off very random, as Prazec barely has said anything.

This post could not be more wishy washy if it tried. The first paragraph is quite pointless, and the second asks for more contributions from other people without contributing anything themselves (this was Kilava’s second post of day 2, the first just being along the lines of “I’m here now”).

I'd say I'm leagues and bounds less wishy washy than some of your posts - and asking for people do actually contribute isn't pointless, it's absolutely necessary to find anything out. Not to mention, my point about you voting for Prazec when he hadn't even said much at all at that point is very valid - at least try to argue for why you're voting for someone - it's not too much to ask. As for my contribution, I sure as hell contributed more than you did, so there goes that argument.

You really haven’t. You got into a slap fight on day 1, were absent for day 2, and I don’t remember what you did on day 3 and that’s only just gone. Who knows, I’ve just got to day 3 and perhaps you’ll say something profound. But so far the only reason you seem to have been in the discussion more than you actually have is because Barghast kept pointing to you as suspicious.

[Kilava]

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 11:09 PM, said:

Kilava, on 20 August 2019 - 10:50 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 10:43 PM, said:

Kilava, on 15 August 2019 - 07:17 PM, said:

People have been pointing out that some haven't been engaging or saying much in their posts, which I think is a fair point. There's also a point to be made that scum is less likely to willfully ruffle any feathers as not to draw any attention. Or they could simply be playing carefully. This the second day, nothing jumps out at me too much as of yet, albeit some interesting pushes going on. I'd like to hear more arguments from people.
As for myself, I'm still leaning towards Sheltatha for previous reasons as they still stand, although I would like GL and Gamelon actually try to contribute something and not just rush in with their hitherto seemingly randomness. For instance Gamelon's vote for Prazec came off very random, as Prazec barely has said anything.

This post could not be more wishy washy if it tried. The first paragraph is quite pointless, and the second asks for more contributions from other people without contributing anything themselves (this was Kilava’s second post of day 2, the first just being along the lines of “I’m here now”).

I'd say I'm leagues and bounds less wishy washy than some of your posts - and asking for people do actually contribute isn't pointless, it's absolutely necessary to find anything out. Not to mention, my point about you voting for Prazec when he hadn't even said much at all at that point is very valid - at least try to argue for why you're voting for someone - it's not too much to ask. As for my contribution, I sure as hell contributed more than you did, so there goes that argument.

You really haven’t. You got into a slap fight on day 1, were absent for day 2, and I don’t remember what you did on day 3 and that’s only just gone. Who knows, I’ve just got to day 3 and perhaps you’ll say something profound. But so far the only reason you seem to have been in the discussion more than you actually have is because Barghast kept pointing to you as suspicious.

The only time I was less present was when I had only slept 1 hour in 48 hours and I was kinda out of it. I even said so. If you want to hold that against me, go ahead, but RL issues is not something that pertains to if you should vote for me or not. Get back to me when you have actual arguments. Barghast kept me busy, but that's hardly the only thing I've posted about, even though he worked really hard to have me jump on him. And let me remind you, just because you use tons of quotes doesn't mean you actually have anything to say. Just saying.

[Gamelon]

Shelly, if you’re not a motato then what are you?

[Gamelon]

So by the end of day 1 we have Rikkter, Kilava, Barghast, Sheltatha all majorly butting heads, and then Gait comes along day 2 and says, ‘Yo what about GL instead?’ and it all seems swept under the carpet.

I can’t help but feel there’s something more at play there.

[Kilava]

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 11:42 PM, said:

I can’t help but feel there’s something more at play there.

It's a game called MAFIA. *ba dum tss*

Sorry, I'll get back to watching my movie now.

[Gamelon]

Sheltatha Lore, on 19 August 2019 - 06:08 PM, said:

It sounds like I am the prime lynch candidate today, which is fine. I just want you all to look back at my case more closely after you finish deflating from the latest boner.

I mainly want to remind you all that good scum, which is a safe bet with this crowd, often looks exactly like town. They are the feel good contributors that stroke your ego, gently lead, and seem very thoughtful and perceptive. They are perceptive because they hold almost all the cards and they are townish because that is their primary objective. The scummiest are awkward townies or roled townies typically.

I look at the best "town" and I see Venessara and Barghast. I am pretty confident Barg will be scum, especially after watching his/her interactions including self deprecation and stroking of egos. I will respond more precisely to comments in the thread later if I have time and access to a desktop, but I can assure you looking for obvious signs of scum will be your downfall this game.

This is where, with two votes, Shelly’s dire hinting at a role begins. The description they put here fits Gait most of all on a reread, not the two mentioned (though I guess it’s somewhat subjective).

So far I have found nothing on Gait which I would class as incriminating, other than voicing some agreement with my Prazec suspicion towards the end of GL’s lynch, which might be read as laying early groundwork for the next day’s lynch (were it not for PG’s reveal). They’ve played a very good game, whether they’re town or scum.

[Gamelon]

Kilava, on 20 August 2019 - 12:22 AM, said:

Barghast, on 19 August 2019 - 11:46 PM, said:

Kilava can barely string together three sentences without going back to me, but not once have they voted to lynch me. My theory is that they are scum and seeing I've had a hard on for them since D1, they know if they start a train against me, I will flip town and that will bring heat on them. So instead they are constantly trying to tie me with people others have mentioned as suspects or voted against.

I think I've been pretty clear why I haven't chosen to vote for you as of yet. If you wish to vote for me, go ahead, I can't stop you. I said before that I want to know what you and Gamelon had in mind instead of Sheltatha, but I can't really consider myself as a good choice here. That leaves a vote for you or Sheltatha or Gamelon, which is who I've been leaning towards for a while now. I think that the only way we can untangle the situation is to lynch one of you. If you have another choice other than myself, I'm happy to hear you out, but you seem to want to manipulate me into voting for you, for some reason. Why is that? You really that much against Sheltatha getting lynched? It would answer a lot of questions, and your constant obsession is suspicious to me.

To make sure that you understand that I mean what I'm saying, I'm gonna vote for you, but I'm okay with changing my vote to Sheltatha if that's where we're going today. As I've said before, I'm okay voting for either of you, and Gamelon aswell, just to get some answers.

vote Barghast

What strange reasoning for a vote. I’ll vote for you, but I don’t want to vote for you, and I can change my vote if that’s what other people want. It looks really mealy. Kilava also accuses Barghast of not wanting to see Sheltatha lynched - this right after Barghast names Sheltatha as their number 2 suspect after Kilava.