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Posted 04 July 2019 - 04:44 PM

View PostD, on 04 July 2019 - 04:34 PM, said:

Action phase order listed is wrong. Should be

D'rek >> Tatts >> Tapper >> Nom >> Twelve >> Blend


I have PM'd Gnaw about it. Also about the fact that there are still no POs! :headbang:
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 04:45 PM

View PostD, on 04 July 2019 - 04:32 PM, said:

Sure, but I imagine that'll be around round 2 or 3?


Well, probably Turn 2 of this round, actually.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 04:49 PM

View PostBlend, on 04 July 2019 - 04:45 PM, said:

View PostD, on 04 July 2019 - 04:32 PM, said:

Sure, but I imagine that'll be around round 2 or 3?


Well, probably Turn 2 of this round, actually.


Oh really? Alrighty, that works too.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 04:54 PM

POs are posted - the two stage 1 tech POs. Hmmmmmmmmm *everyone side-eyes Jol-Nar*

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 06:01 PM

Ugh, Drek, early Leadership SUUUCKKKKSSS! :headbang:
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 06:13 PM

I like making people make hard choices :headbang:

(Though that's not why I did it)

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 06:20 PM

View PostD, on 04 July 2019 - 06:13 PM, said:

I like making people make hard choices :headbang:

(Though that's not why I did it)


Realistically the only way for me to pay for CTs this round would have been with TGs anyway, so it would have depended on Trade being played early regardless, but still.... UUUGGHHHHH!!!!!
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 06:41 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 04 July 2019 - 06:20 PM, said:

View PostD, on 04 July 2019 - 06:13 PM, said:

I like making people make hard choices :headbang:

(Though that's not why I did it)


Realistically the only way for me to pay for CTs this round would have been with TGs anyway, so it would have depended on Trade being played early regardless, but still.... UUUGGHHHHH!!!!!


Bear in mind I only have one carrier, so if I wasn't playing it first I'd be playing it second turn. You probably wouldn't have been able to do the trade secondary, establish neighbour relations, and swap your commodities all by then anyway.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 06:43 PM

View PostD, on 04 July 2019 - 06:41 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 04 July 2019 - 06:20 PM, said:

View PostD, on 04 July 2019 - 06:13 PM, said:

I like making people make hard choices :headbang:

(Though that's not why I did it)


Realistically the only way for me to pay for CTs this round would have been with TGs anyway, so it would have depended on Trade being played early regardless, but still.... UUUGGHHHHH!!!!!


Bear in mind I only have one carrier, so if I wasn't playing it first I'd be playing it second turn. You probably wouldn't have been able to do the trade secondary, establish neighbour relations, and swap your commodities all by then anyway.


I mean, an early Warfare play coulda helped you create another carrier, no? Lots of ways it could have been doable.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 06:54 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 04 July 2019 - 06:43 PM, said:

View PostD, on 04 July 2019 - 06:41 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 04 July 2019 - 06:20 PM, said:

View PostD, on 04 July 2019 - 06:13 PM, said:

I like making people make hard choices :headbang:

(Though that's not why I did it)


Realistically the only way for me to pay for CTs this round would have been with TGs anyway, so it would have depended on Trade being played early regardless, but still.... UUUGGHHHHH!!!!!


Bear in mind I only have one carrier, so if I wasn't playing it first I'd be playing it second turn. You probably wouldn't have been able to do the trade secondary, establish neighbour relations, and swap your commodities all by then anyway.


I mean, an early Warfare play coulda helped you create another carrier, no? Lots of ways it could have been doable.


1-TA/SA
6-TA
1-TA/SA
6-SA

Warfare will never get played on its first turn, and by the time it is played on its second turn I'll have done both a TA with my carrier and played Leadership, regardless of which order I do them in.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 06:56 PM

View PostD, on 04 July 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:


1-TA/SA
6-TA
1-TA/SA
6-SA

Warfare will never get played on its first turn, and by the time it is played on its second turn I'll have done both a TA with my carrier and played Leadership, regardless of which order I do them in.


Listen, the Ghosts care naught for your leafy justifications. UUUUGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 08:37 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 03:30 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 04 July 2019 - 03:23 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 02:37 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 04 July 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 08:57 AM, said:

Edit; @Twelve
With Lodor you would have 16 resources and with Rarron system I would have 20 and D'rek would have 22.

As war between us would cost us the game and hand it elsewhere I'm proposing a good pact between us, not letting the Arborec get out of control. Peace of mind between us, SFTT to help us along the way, swapping commodities. I'll need that system to keep up with D'rek, she will already have more planets and resources than me.

If I wanted to go that way I could have War Sun technology in round 2 so I could keep up with you militarily wise if I needed to but would rather not and focus on scoring objectives.

What do you think?

First sftt can only be given out to one player and I think Nom wants it for his research agreement and as I've said Hyper Metabolism is my top priority he would get first Crack at it.
Second, per your own post, your distribution of planets would put me at the fewest combined value so your argument supports me taking that system. But as I said before I'm willing to share the space. We can exchange ceasefires and you can then focus on keeping D'rek in check. And if you absolutely refuse to share then pay me off. I'd rather not fight over it but I'm not going to let you walk over me for it either.


I understand that. What I propose is that when we border we exchange SFTT. That system (Rarron) is mine and I'll pay you round 2 - > My racial PN once I have exhausted the planet for the first time. Unless it is paramount to stopping you winning the game I leave Lodor alone completely. Something along these lines. Round 3 my trade PN as a further boon.

Tatts, the influence is just too important to me. I just can't give it up. I'm taking that system round one. I'm willing to exchange sftt with you after I take the system so we can have peace and I'll accept your trade agreement to give you the 1/2 planet and share the system but I'm claiming Rarron for myself.


My racial PN gives you a token (whilst removing one from me), and the trade PN a further 2 TG's. So it's not like you'll be put out by the deal. You get to focus on securing the centre whilst I protect my little sphere. No way you can work with me on this one?

I think I confused your racial with the one from the barony. So with your racial and trade agreement you are essentially paying 1 round usage of that system. I could accept this deal if You allow me to take the system this round and exhaust the systems next round for the influence before you take them. That will give me 2 uses of the system. Will this work?
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 08:38 PM

View PostD, on 04 July 2019 - 04:34 PM, said:

Action phase order listed is wrong. Should be

D'rek >> Tatts >> Tapper >> Nom >> Twelve >> Blend

Isn't tech before warfare?
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 08:39 PM

View Posttwelve, on 04 July 2019 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostD, on 04 July 2019 - 04:34 PM, said:

Action phase order listed is wrong. Should be

D'rek >> Tatts >> Tapper >> Nom >> Twelve >> Blend

Isn't tech before warfare?


No, Warfare is 6 when it's not combined into Logistics.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 08:54 PM

View Posttwelve, on 04 July 2019 - 08:37 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 03:30 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 04 July 2019 - 03:23 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 02:37 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 04 July 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 08:57 AM, said:

Edit; @Twelve
With Lodor you would have 16 resources and with Rarron system I would have 20 and D'rek would have 22.

As war between us would cost us the game and hand it elsewhere I'm proposing a good pact between us, not letting the Arborec get out of control. Peace of mind between us, SFTT to help us along the way, swapping commodities. I'll need that system to keep up with D'rek, she will already have more planets and resources than me.

If I wanted to go that way I could have War Sun technology in round 2 so I could keep up with you militarily wise if I needed to but would rather not and focus on scoring objectives.

What do you think?

First sftt can only be given out to one player and I think Nom wants it for his research agreement and as I've said Hyper Metabolism is my top priority he would get first Crack at it.
Second, per your own post, your distribution of planets would put me at the fewest combined value so your argument supports me taking that system. But as I said before I'm willing to share the space. We can exchange ceasefires and you can then focus on keeping D'rek in check. And if you absolutely refuse to share then pay me off. I'd rather not fight over it but I'm not going to let you walk over me for it either.


I understand that. What I propose is that when we border we exchange SFTT. That system (Rarron) is mine and I'll pay you round 2 - > My racial PN once I have exhausted the planet for the first time. Unless it is paramount to stopping you winning the game I leave Lodor alone completely. Something along these lines. Round 3 my trade PN as a further boon.

Tatts, the influence is just too important to me. I just can't give it up. I'm taking that system round one. I'm willing to exchange sftt with you after I take the system so we can have peace and I'll accept your trade agreement to give you the 1/2 planet and share the system but I'm claiming Rarron for myself.


My racial PN gives you a token (whilst removing one from me), and the trade PN a further 2 TG's. So it's not like you'll be put out by the deal. You get to focus on securing the centre whilst I protect my little sphere. No way you can work with me on this one?

I think I confused your racial with the one from the barony. So with your racial and trade agreement you are essentially paying 1 round usage of that system. I could accept this deal if You allow me to take the system this round and exhaust the systems next round for the influence before you take them. That will give me 2 uses of the system. Will this work?


Yes.

As it avoids conflict between us. Next round you'll move the ships etc out into Lodor? Early and I won't move in until you have exhausted them.

Next round you'll receive my racial. The round after my trade PN.

Once I take that system we exchange SFTT for peace of mind between us.

Anything I'm missing?
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 09:21 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 08:54 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 04 July 2019 - 08:37 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 03:30 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 04 July 2019 - 03:23 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 02:37 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 04 July 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 08:57 AM, said:

Edit; @Twelve
With Lodor you would have 16 resources and with Rarron system I would have 20 and D'rek would have 22.

As war between us would cost us the game and hand it elsewhere I'm proposing a good pact between us, not letting the Arborec get out of control. Peace of mind between us, SFTT to help us along the way, swapping commodities. I'll need that system to keep up with D'rek, she will already have more planets and resources than me.

If I wanted to go that way I could have War Sun technology in round 2 so I could keep up with you militarily wise if I needed to but would rather not and focus on scoring objectives.

What do you think?

First sftt can only be given out to one player and I think Nom wants it for his research agreement and as I've said Hyper Metabolism is my top priority he would get first Crack at it.
Second, per your own post, your distribution of planets would put me at the fewest combined value so your argument supports me taking that system. But as I said before I'm willing to share the space. We can exchange ceasefires and you can then focus on keeping D'rek in check. And if you absolutely refuse to share then pay me off. I'd rather not fight over it but I'm not going to let you walk over me for it either.


I understand that. What I propose is that when we border we exchange SFTT. That system (Rarron) is mine and I'll pay you round 2 - > My racial PN once I have exhausted the planet for the first time. Unless it is paramount to stopping you winning the game I leave Lodor alone completely. Something along these lines. Round 3 my trade PN as a further boon.

Tatts, the influence is just too important to me. I just can't give it up. I'm taking that system round one. I'm willing to exchange sftt with you after I take the system so we can have peace and I'll accept your trade agreement to give you the 1/2 planet and share the system but I'm claiming Rarron for myself.


My racial PN gives you a token (whilst removing one from me), and the trade PN a further 2 TG's. So it's not like you'll be put out by the deal. You get to focus on securing the centre whilst I protect my little sphere. No way you can work with me on this one?

I think I confused your racial with the one from the barony. So with your racial and trade agreement you are essentially paying 1 round usage of that system. I could accept this deal if You allow me to take the system this round and exhaust the systems next round for the influence before you take them. That will give me 2 uses of the system. Will this work?


Yes.

As it avoids conflict between us. Next round you'll move the ships etc out into Lodor? Early and I won't move in until you have exhausted them.

Next round you'll receive my racial. The round after my trade PN.

Once I take that system we exchange SFTT for peace of mind between us.

Anything I'm missing?

We can make the trade for me clearing out binding would be the only change I would make but other than that no.
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Posted 05 July 2019 - 06:07 AM

View Posttwelve, on 03 July 2019 - 06:32 PM, said:

View PostD, on 03 July 2019 - 06:22 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 03 July 2019 - 06:08 PM, said:

I hope this game distracts and confuses the 4B players :headbang:


It already does :headbang: I'm not sure if being blue in both games is going to help or make it more confusing!

Huh. I just realized I'm green in both too. But I don't think the color is the reason things will get confusing. I think round 1 maybe two should be fine. But when we start racking up action cards and secret objectives that I'm afraid I'm going to confuse what I have in which game when I start to really make mistakes.


That's the reason the two of you got those colors. Figured it'd be one less confusing thing to keep track of.
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Posted 05 July 2019 - 06:08 AM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 03 July 2019 - 08:39 PM, said:

Which is the strategy card we're not playing with?



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View PostItwęs Nom, on 03 July 2019 - 08:39 PM, said:

Which is the strategy card we're not playing with?

Logistics is now called warfare and warfare is not used.



Huh? I'm using the standard game cards. I think. Got them from D'rek....
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Posted 05 July 2019 - 06:13 AM

Tapper don't forget to spend your tactical token from your first action.
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Posted 05 July 2019 - 08:52 AM

View Posttwelve, on 05 July 2019 - 06:13 AM, said:

Tapper don't forget to spend your tactical token from your first action.

Yeah, I realized that after posting, but was on the phone so didn't want to do the edit on it. Corrected now.
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