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Poll: Secret Communication (8 member(s) have cast votes)

Blend suggested 2 simultaneous 6 player games:

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 07:39 PM

Apparently, I'm next up for modding duties.

I want to add off thread communication between neighboring players. I think it would be fun. Deal rules would apply there as well. Maybe.


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Either 1x 9 player game or 2x 6 player. Depends upon interest.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:13 PM

If we do end up running two simultaneous games, it might be a good plan to have one be for newer players (like anyone who has been flitting around the edges of these games and wondering if they could play or not), and one for the more experienced players?

Also, if we want to do two 6 player games, should we use the standard map as suggested in the Twilight Imperium rules, or build the map as we've done the last couple of games?

Should we keep the 9th Strategy Card, or play it as it's meant to be played? Keep Mallice and the other hexes Drek created for us to use, or just use the base set?
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:31 PM

I'd like to try a 6 player game and use the standard strategy cards and I think allowing for offline communications as okay as long as it's announced that cetain players are having a conversation.
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Posted 19 June 2019 - 05:10 AM

I'm in either way, but would prefer no secret communication.
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Posted 19 June 2019 - 06:14 AM

I'd prefer one game as we've been playing it. Modding 2 games seems like a lot of hassle and I doubt 12 players will be found. Secret communication is something I'd want to avoid as well. Itd also add to game delay waiting on answers from neighbours. It's also not a team game.
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Posted 19 June 2019 - 11:14 AM

I'm in as well. I prefer no secret communication, or if it does exist it's not just between neighbours.
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Posted 19 June 2019 - 01:26 PM

Wait and see who signs up/expresses interest, I think. If there are actually 12-13 interested players it makes sense to split into two 6-player games (with different mods, I'd suggest). If not, then not.

I'm also against secret communication. This ain't mafia. And if you think the slow-downs in the game are frustrating now, just wait until you get "Sorry, I need to discuss some things off-thread with [neighbour] for 2 days before I take my turn". If anything, I'm finding some of the existing secrecy kinda irrelevant - e.g. the status updates only say the number and race of PNs in each person's hand, which matches a real-life game, but on the forum really if you take super rigourous notes in the chat thread you can figure out exactly which PNs are where since the trades are all negotiated on-thread. Would it be better to just have PNs be public to save everyone the trouble of backtracking through 100 pages of chat thread?

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Posted 19 June 2019 - 02:24 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 19 June 2019 - 06:14 AM, said:

I'd prefer one game as we've been playing it. Modding 2 games seems like a lot of hassle and I doubt 12 players will be found. Secret communication is something I'd want to avoid as well. Itd also add to game delay waiting on answers from neighbours. It's also not a team game.


To be fair, Gnaw wouldn't be modding 2 games, he'd mod one, I would mod the other, it would allow us to both play and mod.
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Posted 19 June 2019 - 05:35 PM

View PostBlend, on 19 June 2019 - 02:24 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 19 June 2019 - 06:14 AM, said:

I'd prefer one game as we've been playing it. Modding 2 games seems like a lot of hassle and I doubt 12 players will be found. Secret communication is something I'd want to avoid as well. Itd also add to game delay waiting on answers from neighbours. It's also not a team game.


To be fair, Gnaw wouldn't be modding 2 games, he'd mod one, I would mod the other, it would allow us to both play and mod.


Yes, I知 not offering to mod 2 games!!!

But isn稚 D池ek up for modding after me rather than you? Or are you that excited with modding.
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Posted 19 June 2019 - 06:34 PM

View PostGnaw, on 19 June 2019 - 05:35 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 19 June 2019 - 02:24 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 19 June 2019 - 06:14 AM, said:

I'd prefer one game as we've been playing it. Modding 2 games seems like a lot of hassle and I doubt 12 players will be found. Secret communication is something I'd want to avoid as well. Itd also add to game delay waiting on answers from neighbours. It's also not a team game.


To be fair, Gnaw wouldn't be modding 2 games, he'd mod one, I would mod the other, it would allow us to both play and mod.


Yes, I’m not offering to mod 2 games!!!

But isn’t D’rek up for modding after me rather than you? Or are you that excited with modding.


It's a quirk of mine, I really enjoy running games. Any games, really - when I play boardgames or D&D with my friends, I tend to be the Gamemaster who keeps tabs on the game rules or the dungeon master who runs the whole game. Heck, I even got to a point where I enjoyed modding Mafia more than playing. It scratches an itch that nothing else does! Drek is welcome to mod if she wants, but my name's on the list if necessary, particularly if we are going to run 2 games at once and it means I don't have to play in the same game as you, you treacherous piss flap! :thumbsup:

This post has been edited by Blend: 19 June 2019 - 06:36 PM

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Posted 19 June 2019 - 08:01 PM

I'd prefer secret communications only with your neighbours' neighbours
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Posted 19 June 2019 - 11:12 PM

View PostBlend, on 19 June 2019 - 06:34 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 19 June 2019 - 05:35 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 19 June 2019 - 02:24 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 19 June 2019 - 06:14 AM, said:

I'd prefer one game as we've been playing it. Modding 2 games seems like a lot of hassle and I doubt 12 players will be found. Secret communication is something I'd want to avoid as well. Itd also add to game delay waiting on answers from neighbours. It's also not a team game.


To be fair, Gnaw wouldn't be modding 2 games, he'd mod one, I would mod the other, it would allow us to both play and mod.


Yes, I知 not offering to mod 2 games!!!

But isn稚 D池ek up for modding after me rather than you? Or are you that excited with modding.


It's a quirk of mine, I really enjoy running games. Any games, really - when I play boardgames or D&D with my friends, I tend to be the Gamemaster who keeps tabs on the game rules or the dungeon master who runs the whole game. Heck, I even got to a point where I enjoyed modding Mafia more than playing. It scratches an itch that nothing else does! Drek is welcome to mod if she wants, but my name's on the list if necessary, particularly if we are going to run 2 games at once and it means I don't have to play in the same game as you, you treacherous piss flap! :doh:


I'm happy to keep playing. Modding is a lot of work and I'm lazy :thumbsup:

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 04:58 PM

View PostGnaw, on 18 June 2019 - 07:39 PM, said:


Proposed game IV (Gnaw modding):
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Proposed game V (Blend modding):
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Posted 20 June 2019 - 05:03 PM

So are we going to run two standard games? No additional tiles, only the 8 original strategies, 6-person map from the set-up guide?

Or do we want to do one standard, and one with all the additional tiles and a map-building phase?
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Posted 20 June 2019 - 05:18 PM

View PostBlend, on 20 June 2019 - 05:03 PM, said:

So are we going to run two standard games? No additional tiles, only the 8 original strategies, 6-person map from the set-up guide?

Or do we want to do one standard, and one with all the additional tiles and a map-building phase?


Don't know yet. You and I are the only ones who've really commented on it.

I like the idea of 2 games not just because then I'd get to play as well as mod. The 9 player game has a couple of problems. If I run the 9 I'm going to add 6 tiles to complete the outer ring, which I think will help. Give some initial space to keep those sections from being quite so cramped.

If we do the 2 games, the one I run will be standard board game tiles, strategy cards, etc. I know how I'll work the map layout process (players will do it with the pizza slice process we used from the current game), race selection, etc.

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 05:24 PM

If we do two games, we値l need hugin & munin.
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Posted 20 June 2019 - 05:27 PM

View PostGnaw, on 20 June 2019 - 05:24 PM, said:

If we do two games, we値l need hugin & munin.


Yep, definitely! Guess we'll figure all that out when this game is done and we're gearing up for the next one. I'm sure IH or Drek can reset the H&M password if no one has it handy.
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Posted 20 June 2019 - 05:37 PM

View PostBlend, on 20 June 2019 - 05:27 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 20 June 2019 - 05:24 PM, said:

If we do two games, we'll need hugin & munin.


Yep, definitely! Guess we'll figure all that out when this game is done and we're gearing up for the next one. I'm sure IH or Drek can reset the H&M password if no one has it handy.


Regardless, I'm going to need access to all the files. Anyone have a link to where they might be?

Sooner is better for me as the current version of Inkscape is incompatible with Macs. I値l have to use Affinity Designer and I知 not as familiar with it.

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 05:49 PM

View PostGnaw, on 20 June 2019 - 05:37 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 20 June 2019 - 05:27 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 20 June 2019 - 05:24 PM, said:

If we do two games, we'll need hugin & munin.


Yep, definitely! Guess we'll figure all that out when this game is done and we're gearing up for the next one. I'm sure IH or Drek can reset the H&M password if no one has it handy.


Regardless, I'm going to need access to all the files. Anyone have a link to where they might be?

Sooner is better for me as the current version of Inkscape is incompatible with Macs. I値l have to use Affinity Designer and I知 not as familiar with it.


Give me a minute, I still have the original google drive from Drek somewhere, I'll PM it to you.
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Posted 20 June 2019 - 05:52 PM

View PostBlend, on 20 June 2019 - 05:49 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 20 June 2019 - 05:37 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 20 June 2019 - 05:27 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 20 June 2019 - 05:24 PM, said:

If we do two games, we'll need hugin & munin.


Yep, definitely! Guess we'll figure all that out when this game is done and we're gearing up for the next one. I'm sure IH or Drek can reset the H&M password if no one has it handy.


Regardless, I'm going to need access to all the files. Anyone have a link to where they might be?

Sooner is better for me as the current version of Inkscape is incompatible with Macs. I'll have to use Affinity Designer and I'm not as familiar with it.


Give me a minute, I still have the original google drive from Drek somewhere, I'll PM it to you.


Thanks. Forgot about that pm.
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