[megaphage]

Roland said:

I think Paran knew who he was targeting and that matters more than the wording he used

I agree, its not like he was reciting an incantation! Besides Paran was a Bridgeburner himself!

[Trotts]

so does that mean all 1400 bridgeburners have ascended? or just the squads that were around when paran was in command?

[Roland]

No, just the dead in the chamber for Christ's sake! It's KINDA obvious I dare say...

[Blind]

I suppose that all the bridgeburners ascend, because the spiritwalker's song is about all the BB - those Fiddler knew; Paran's blessing comes on top of that, whether he directed it at some or all of them.

[Lather]

STOP it!!!!! you've all gone mad!!!! a shared madness!!!!

Anaster has provided the quote!!!

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yes, let me quote:

"whiskeyjack, for all that you taught me, I thank you. Bridgeburners, I wish I could have done better by you. Especially at the end. At the very least I could have died with you. All right, it's probably too late. But I bless you, one and all."

they are blessed. ONE AND ALL. they're all blessed!!!! blessedblessedblessed
!!!!! forhoodsake!!!! blessed, one and all. dead or alive, sapper or mage, young or old, veteran or rookie!!!!! each and every frickin one of 'em. blessed. for all time!!!!! forever blessed. yes, blessed. BY PARAN. he blessed them. one and all. no qualification, no specifics. just blessed. they're blessed.


phew. ok...i'm ok.

[Lather]

backatcha.

(btw, hetan, hetan is one of my FAVorite characters. i love her.)

[Trotts]

whats the point of the forums if we cant mull over every minute detail from the books

[Anaster]

Lather said:

(btw, hetan, hetan is one of my FAVorite characters. i love her.)

That's because she "beds" everybody if she gets the chance, right?

[Lather]

beds them senseless is more like it!!!!
and they're all terrified of the bedding as well!!!!!
i love her.

[Omras Ghum]

errm - could the bb's themselves have a says in whether they "want" to ascend or not? I mean at least they could decide to do... nothing with their ascendancy or stubbornly knock on hood#s door to be let in...... just a guess

[Lather]

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could the bb's themselves have a says in whether they "want" to ascend or not?

i've been wondering the same thing Omras, not just about the Bridgeburners but about the whole ascention thing in general.
anybody have any ideas about this? Omras and i want to know.

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whats the point of the forums if we cant mull over every minute detail from the books

nono, mull away!!! nitpick. have at it!!!

[Trotts]

i dont think you get a choice, and thats the curse of the ascension. youre stuck.

[Omras Ghum]

i think one needs a certain focus to ascend - a goal he/she wants to achieve and ascension then is part of it... one cannot just ascend by stumbling through the world and having a lot of experiences; it takes something more --> a focus, the will or whatever...

if i'm correct then it follows that one can hover on the brink of ascension (like gesler for example) without making the last step, i mean without "wanting" it...

[Anaster]

Yes but doesn't being master of the deck mean you're an ascended anyway? I know there's no clues to that anywhere, but it would make good sense wouldn't it?

[megaphage]

And even if it doesn't, he blessed all the bridgeburners anyway, one of which is himself. Does that mean he ascends twice? I must add that I'm not really serious about this, but that I'm still questioning the whole bridgeburners-all-ascending line of discussion.

I mean, what does it all mean? Will there be an ascended army of bridgeburners working for a God who's already there? (shadow?). Or will they all just be milling around in a field in another realm wondering what to do? A new house created? Or is this blessing-ascension a bit less conventional/meaningful than a normal ascension?

I just don't see how it could work.

[Trotts]

i imagine they would sit in the unaligned catagory, although its possible that because shadowthorne = kell they will support him

[Tiste Simeon]

Just don't read the glossary... I did that with HOC and it somewhat confused me the whole way through until the end...