[Tapper]

Yeah, I think I need to amend that 'will probably lose the MR space battle' into 'will lose'. Damn, I am wondering if I actually better off not spending action cards on it.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 09:01 AM, said:

I have this action card

AF | Industrial Initiative | Play as an Action | Gain 1 trade good for each industrial planet you control.


Nom I see this would be beneficial to you, what can you offer me for it?


Not only does this give you 4 TG's but you also stall an action which is 1 CT. I'd be looking for a stall card minimum, plus either 2 TG's, or another action card that you think I'd like, or the same card but for hazardous planets if you have that.


Anyway, you can send me a card privately to peruse if you have something that can aid me.

If he gives you experimental battlestation, I'll swap you a decent stall card for it.

[D'rek]

Tapper, on 06 November 2018 - 11:31 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 10:21 AM, said:

I wonder though if that deal includes letting someone attack you, you took his former home world, much of his territory and then kicked him out of Rex, he should be allowed to respond to that sort of behaviour deal or no deal.

Edit;

I hope you kick his arse in the battle as he ruined my game plan

Edit 2

I'm loving your whole gam,e so far Tapper, you only have people worried because you've played well. Do you think you moved too early this round or not?

I am not sure how a space battle for Mecatol will go. I think I will lose. Early game I was planning a cheap carrier/fighter strategy with Carrier II and Fighter II for my fleets, instead, I just end up turning my fleets into ground transports - Fleet Logistics and Light/Wave turned out to be much more useful for me than Fighter II, so far.

As for making the move too quickly: I think not. I could not risk stalling as the flagship and the infantry on Mallice were key to the plan, and IH seemed less than happy with me there and he did rebuild his fleet. If IH had taken Diplomacy instead of Construction (thus moving before me) I'd have offered him my Trade Agreement with the promise to refresh commodities, just for him to stall, but since he didn't, moving out asap seemed the best option.

If anything, right now I regret playing Plague as it might be used against me on MR just after we next draw action cards. I'd probably have won the ground fight quite easily without it.

as for your compliment: thanks. I think I've made the best of a bad hand: late strategy selection for several rounds, bad expansion options. The saving grace there was that the starting sectors Khell and I got were so terrible in terms of production/influence per system that no-one wanted to over-extend into it and compete for it. When Khell left (a bit too soon perhaps, or perhaps not quick enough - Lodor would have been a fabulous 'home planet' for him) I got breathing space and I have been making the best of it, but the first four rounds really felt like I was an also-ran (it didn't help that I never reliably could get rid of commodities). Only when Gnaw threw me a VP and I drew into those Flanking Speeds I used, did I feel like I might have a chance.

Incidentally, that also meant that the current opposition also got to me a little (when you plan your moves at 3 AM over poopy diapers or with your wife asking why cooking water for a warm bed flask for the baby or opening the cat flap took ten minutes, investing your pet projects is somewhat hard - you probably now how it feels ). All game, I had no stable trade agreements, no allies, a disagreeable sector and now that I climbed out of that pit, people want to kick me back in, with a real risk of ending middle of the pack instead of with the 12 VP and the sense of accomplishment I think I can get at the end of the game.

As the SU&SD reviewer would say "that's so Twilight Imperium"

[Khellendros]

D, on 06 November 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 09:01 AM, said:

I have this action card

AF | Industrial Initiative | Play as an Action | Gain 1 trade good for each industrial planet you control.


Nom I see this would be beneficial to you, what can you offer me for it?


Not only does this give you 4 TG's but you also stall an action which is 1 CT. I'd be looking for a stall card minimum, plus either 2 TG's, or another action card that you think I'd like, or the same card but for hazardous planets if you have that.


Anyway, you can send me a card privately to peruse if you have something that can aid me.

If he gives you experimental battlestation, I'll swap you a decent stall card for it.

Remember Nom that I asked about the Battlestation first, and what you wanted for it

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 06 November 2018 - 01:50 PM, said:

D, on 06 November 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 09:01 AM, said:

I have this action card

AF | Industrial Initiative | Play as an Action | Gain 1 trade good for each industrial planet you control.


Nom I see this would be beneficial to you, what can you offer me for it?


Not only does this give you 4 TG's but you also stall an action which is 1 CT. I'd be looking for a stall card minimum, plus either 2 TG's, or another action card that you think I'd like, or the same card but for hazardous planets if you have that.


Anyway, you can send me a card privately to peruse if you have something that can aid me.

If he gives you experimental battlestation, I'll swap you a decent stall card for it.

Remember Nom that I asked about the Battlestation first, and what you wanted for it

That was like a year ago. At this point, I think both our first askings would round to the same

[Khellendros]

D, on 06 November 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 06 November 2018 - 01:50 PM, said:

D, on 06 November 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 09:01 AM, said:

I have this action card

AF | Industrial Initiative | Play as an Action | Gain 1 trade good for each industrial planet you control.


Nom I see this would be beneficial to you, what can you offer me for it?


Not only does this give you 4 TG's but you also stall an action which is 1 CT. I'd be looking for a stall card minimum, plus either 2 TG's, or another action card that you think I'd like, or the same card but for hazardous planets if you have that.


Anyway, you can send me a card privately to peruse if you have something that can aid me.

If he gives you experimental battlestation, I'll swap you a decent stall card for it.

Remember Nom that I asked about the Battlestation first, and what you wanted for it

That was like a year ago. At this point, I think both our first askings would round to the same

Actually I asked again for it earlier this very round. So

[Tattersail_]

Khell you don't have much to give, you only like to take this game

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 06 November 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

D, on 06 November 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 06 November 2018 - 01:50 PM, said:

D, on 06 November 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 09:01 AM, said:

I have this action card

AF | Industrial Initiative | Play as an Action | Gain 1 trade good for each industrial planet you control.


Nom I see this would be beneficial to you, what can you offer me for it?


Not only does this give you 4 TG's but you also stall an action which is 1 CT. I'd be looking for a stall card minimum, plus either 2 TG's, or another action card that you think I'd like, or the same card but for hazardous planets if you have that.


Anyway, you can send me a card privately to peruse if you have something that can aid me.

If he gives you experimental battlestation, I'll swap you a decent stall card for it.

Remember Nom that I asked about the Battlestation first, and what you wanted for it

That was like a year ago. At this point, I think both our first askings would round to the same

Actually I asked again for it earlier this very round. So

Yeah, but I've asked for it, like, every round. Twice a round. Ten times every round! ONE MILLION TIMES EVERY ROUND

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 02:06 PM, said:

Khell you don't have much to give, you only like to take this game

If Nom does my refreshes, then I'll have a fair few TGs I'd be willing to trade

[Khellendros]

D, on 06 November 2018 - 02:09 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 06 November 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

D, on 06 November 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 06 November 2018 - 01:50 PM, said:

D, on 06 November 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 09:01 AM, said:

I have this action card

AF | Industrial Initiative | Play as an Action | Gain 1 trade good for each industrial planet you control.


Nom I see this would be beneficial to you, what can you offer me for it?


Not only does this give you 4 TG's but you also stall an action which is 1 CT. I'd be looking for a stall card minimum, plus either 2 TG's, or another action card that you think I'd like, or the same card but for hazardous planets if you have that.


Anyway, you can send me a card privately to peruse if you have something that can aid me.

If he gives you experimental battlestation, I'll swap you a decent stall card for it.

Remember Nom that I asked about the Battlestation first, and what you wanted for it

That was like a year ago. At this point, I think both our first askings would round to the same

Actually I asked again for it earlier this very round. So

Yeah, but I've asked for it, like, every round. Twice a round. Ten times every round! ONE MILLION TIMES EVERY ROUND

That's exactly your problem - it's just become background noise now.

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw's turn,

Twelve are you still planning on attacking MR?

What are your plans regarding Arinam/Meer?

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 06 November 2018 - 02:11 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 02:06 PM, said:

Khell you don't have much to give, you only like to take this game

If Nom does my refreshes, then I'll have a fair few TGs I'd be willing to trade

He's already got an open offer from me where he gets something in exchange for the free refresh (whether selling an AC or not). So in my deal he actually receives something for everything he gives. In yours he gives something for free just so he can then sell you something.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

Twelve are you still planning on attacking MR?

Probably makes sense to wait and see how much bombardment Khell pulls off. If Tapper still has 7 Spec Ops on MR, probably not worth it, but if it's fewer...

[Khellendros]

D, on 06 November 2018 - 02:20 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 06 November 2018 - 02:11 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 02:06 PM, said:

Khell you don't have much to give, you only like to take this game

If Nom does my refreshes, then I'll have a fair few TGs I'd be willing to trade

He's already got an open offer from me where he gets something in exchange for the free refresh (whether selling an AC or not). So in my deal he actually receives something for everything he gives. In yours he gives something for free just so he can then sell you something.

Gets something - gives refresh - sells AC.
Gives refresh - gets something - sells AC.

Okay then

Besides, the Mentak and Saar are the best of buds from way way back!

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 06 November 2018 - 02:27 PM, said:

D, on 06 November 2018 - 02:20 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 06 November 2018 - 02:11 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 02:06 PM, said:

Khell you don't have much to give, you only like to take this game

If Nom does my refreshes, then I'll have a fair few TGs I'd be willing to trade

He's already got an open offer from me where he gets something in exchange for the free refresh (whether selling an AC or not). So in my deal he actually receives something for everything he gives. In yours he gives something for free just so he can then sell you something.

Gets something - gives refresh - sells AC.
Gives refresh - gets something - sells AC.

Okay then

Besides, the Mentak and Saar are the best of buds from way way back!

Free Refresh <> no PDS fire
+
AC <> trade goods

vs

Free Refresh <> nothing
+
AC <> trade goods


Seems like an obvious choice to me

Besides, Nom probably wants to take MR for himself, it's really the only way he can catch up to and outpace Tapper and Morgoth. So why would he want to give you a refresh? And he can just use the ExpBS offensively when attacking MR.

[Tattersail_]

Nom I would accept that trade, that AC for the one I showed earlier.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

Gnaw's turn,

Twelve are you still planning on attacking MR?

What are your plans regarding Arinam/Meer?

That would be fun wouldn't it

They are very tasty planets aren't they.

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 06 November 2018 - 04:18 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

Gnaw's turn,

Twelve are you still planning on attacking MR?

What are your plans regarding Arinam/Meer?

That would be fun wouldn't it

They are very tasty planets aren't they.

Here's hoping you wait one more turn...

[Khellendros]

@Tatts:

By the way, what was your nefarious plan if I hadn't moved out? I didn't think you'd double-cross me, but I did think D'rek might block my way to the asteroid field if I didn't go immediately, so that's why I left first turn.

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 06 November 2018 - 04:18 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 November 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

Gnaw's turn,

Twelve are you still planning on attacking MR?

What are your plans regarding Arinam/Meer?

That would be fun wouldn't it

They are very tasty planets aren't they.

I was hoping/thinking of waiting until you move from A/M to move into A/M but it's not like I need those planets, I have not really got a plan for the rest of the round.