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#4221 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 06:44 PM

View PostD, on 24 September 2018 - 06:15 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 24 September 2018 - 05:15 PM, said:

View PostD, on 24 September 2018 - 05:09 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 24 September 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

View PostD, on 24 September 2018 - 04:29 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 12:36 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 September 2018 - 07:08 AM, said:

Flying to the us, stuck a move in.

Gnaw were you still wanting to move the wormhole in bereg?


Well, the destroy all ships in a/b wormholes agenda is coming.


Oh that's interesting


Did you miss Gnaw hinting at this after playing Politics? I'm still half-convinced he's trolling for dastardly purposes.


I guess I did.


And here I thought you were just happy to lose that dread you placed in the beta wormhole.


It can still move :(


Oh that's true.
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#4222 User is offline   Imperial Historian 

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 07:02 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

IH, I can pay you 2 TGs for your racial PN, and a promise not to place a gate anywhere that would damage you.


Sure on the condition you use it on the turn I give it you.
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Posted 24 September 2018 - 07:45 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 September 2018 - 07:02 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

IH, I can pay you 2 TGs for your racial PN, and a promise not to place a gate anywhere that would damage you.


Sure on the condition you use it on the turn I give it you.


Very well. It'll be next turn then, I reckon. I do not have the tgs at this time anyway.
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 06:04 AM

I wish there was some way to know what the next objective will be.
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 06:28 AM

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

IH, I can pay you 2 TGs for your racial PN, and a promise not to place a gate anywhere that would damage you.


Uh......


what?


I'd appreciate it if it also went somewhere that wouldn't damage me. And it would need to be the alpha wormhole considering the coming agenda.


I have no plans to attack or otherwise inconvenience you.
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 07:11 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 25 September 2018 - 06:28 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

IH, I can pay you 2 TGs for your racial PN, and a promise not to place a gate anywhere that would damage you.


Uh......


what?


I'd appreciate it if it also went somewhere that wouldn't damage me. And it would need to be the alpha wormhole considering the coming agenda.


I have no plans to attack or otherwise inconvenience you.


How about me?

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Posted 25 September 2018 - 07:14 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 07:11 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 25 September 2018 - 06:28 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

IH, I can pay you 2 TGs for your racial PN, and a promise not to place a gate anywhere that would damage you.


Uh......


what?


I'd appreciate it if it also went somewhere that wouldn't damage me. And it would need to be the alpha wormhole considering the coming agenda.


I have no plans to attack or otherwise inconvenience you.


How about me?

#curious


Well, if you a leave a juicy system available at a time when I am capable of taking it then sure, I will grasp at the chances I can get for victory.
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 07:28 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 25 September 2018 - 07:14 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 07:11 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 25 September 2018 - 06:28 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

IH, I can pay you 2 TGs for your racial PN, and a promise not to place a gate anywhere that would damage you.


Uh......


what?


I'd appreciate it if it also went somewhere that wouldn't damage me. And it would need to be the alpha wormhole considering the coming agenda.


I have no plans to attack or otherwise inconvenience you.


How about me?

#curious


Well, if you a leave a juicy system available at a time when I am capable of taking it then sure, I will grasp at the chances I can get for victory.





Honestly, I don't see how you can get to any of my planets. To move you have to move either the beta or alpha wormhole into a system that contains your ships and then move them through the wormhole.

So with beta you'd have D'rek's dread blocking you or IH's fleet and through Alpha you'd have Gnaw's or Nom's ships blocking you.

You'd be moving for VP gain surely or good position on the map and moving towards me would give you neither.

I see two options for you but I know you're canny and can work something different but option one, you have an action card that can help you bypass ships and a +1 movement.

Gnaw's homeworld is option one.

Option two is to take Mallice whilst Tapper is weak. He cannot resupply ships and his fleet is damaged. He's in a good position on the board and you want to weaken your competitors.

I don't mind discussing this with you but you'd probably want to keep your cards to your chest.
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#4229 User is offline   Morgoth 

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Posted 25 September 2018 - 07:44 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 07:28 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 25 September 2018 - 07:14 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 07:11 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 25 September 2018 - 06:28 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

IH, I can pay you 2 TGs for your racial PN, and a promise not to place a gate anywhere that would damage you.


Uh......


what?


I'd appreciate it if it also went somewhere that wouldn't damage me. And it would need to be the alpha wormhole considering the coming agenda.


I have no plans to attack or otherwise inconvenience you.


How about me?

#curious


Well, if you a leave a juicy system available at a time when I am capable of taking it then sure, I will grasp at the chances I can get for victory.





Honestly, I don't see how you can get to any of my planets. To move you have to move either the beta or alpha wormhole into a system that contains your ships and then move them through the wormhole.

So with beta you'd have D'rek's dread blocking you or IH's fleet and through Alpha you'd have Gnaw's or Nom's ships blocking you.

You'd be moving for VP gain surely or good position on the map and moving towards me would give you neither.

I see two options for you but I know you're canny and can work something different but option one, you have an action card that can help you bypass ships and a +1 movement.

Gnaw's homeworld is option one.

Option two is to take Mallice whilst Tapper is weak. He cannot resupply ships and his fleet is damaged. He's in a good position on the board and you want to weaken your competitors.

I don't mind discussing this with you but you'd probably want to keep your cards to your chest.


Aye, I am in no position to do anything in particular as is. You also have to remember that I have very little production, and so cannot risk a straight up confrontation. At least not as of yet. When I attacked D'rek I assumed I'd be able to flee to the nebula if things didn't go my way. Alas Khell ruined that whole plan in his normal, spectacular fashion. The loss of that fleet set me back at least two turns. Imagine what life would have been like if I had an ever growing fleet right there at the centre of the map. Sigh.

Gnaw's homeworld is weak yes, but I have very little movement and IH has a major fleet between us. And to be honest, Gnaw is not at risk of winning this game, and so he's pretty far down on my list of priorities.

So in short, I am content to wait. I can't do anything in particular right now, but the board is always in flux, and as long as I can gain points I don't actually need to do anything other than sit tight. Sure, it's not as fun, but it's an option.
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#4230 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 25 September 2018 - 10:17 AM

Tapper's turn isn't it?
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 10:20 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 10:17 AM, said:

Tapper's turn isn't it?


I think the construction of a carrier in Mellon-Zohbat torpedoed all his plans. So now he needs a completely new strategy.
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 11:40 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 25 September 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 10:17 AM, said:

Tapper's turn isn't it?


I think the construction of a carrier in Mellon-Zohbat torpedoed all his plans. So now he needs a completely new strategy.

Something like that.
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 01:17 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 07:28 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 25 September 2018 - 07:14 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 07:11 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 25 September 2018 - 06:28 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

IH, I can pay you 2 TGs for your racial PN, and a promise not to place a gate anywhere that would damage you.


Uh......


what?


I'd appreciate it if it also went somewhere that wouldn't damage me. And it would need to be the alpha wormhole considering the coming agenda.


I have no plans to attack or otherwise inconvenience you.


How about me?

#curious


Well, if you a leave a juicy system available at a time when I am capable of taking it then sure, I will grasp at the chances I can get for victory.





Honestly, I don't see how you can get to any of my planets. To move you have to move either the beta or alpha wormhole into a system that contains your ships and then move them through the wormhole.

So with beta you'd have D'rek's dread blocking you or IH's fleet and through Alpha you'd have Gnaw's or Nom's ships blocking you.

You'd be moving for VP gain surely or good position on the map and moving towards me would give you neither.

I see two options for you but I know you're canny and can work something different but option one, you have an action card that can help you bypass ships and a +1 movement.

Gnaw's homeworld is option one.

Option two is to take Mallice whilst Tapper is weak. He cannot resupply ships and his fleet is damaged. He's in a good position on the board and you want to weaken your competitors.

I don't mind discussing this with you but you'd probably want to keep your cards to your chest.

If the next agenda is indeed about destroying ships in wormhole systems, why would anyone spend a CT (and possibly a few ships) to fight me at Mallice this round, risking their own ships?
If it isn't, I will be out of Mallice and go back to my own side of the board in the next round, probably within my first 2 actions, with all plastic (if I still have ships there).
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 01:22 PM

View PostTapper, on 25 September 2018 - 01:17 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 07:28 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 25 September 2018 - 07:14 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 07:11 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 25 September 2018 - 06:28 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 24 September 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 September 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

IH, I can pay you 2 TGs for your racial PN, and a promise not to place a gate anywhere that would damage you.


Uh......


what?


I'd appreciate it if it also went somewhere that wouldn't damage me. And it would need to be the alpha wormhole considering the coming agenda.


I have no plans to attack or otherwise inconvenience you.


How about me?

#curious


Well, if you a leave a juicy system available at a time when I am capable of taking it then sure, I will grasp at the chances I can get for victory.





Honestly, I don't see how you can get to any of my planets. To move you have to move either the beta or alpha wormhole into a system that contains your ships and then move them through the wormhole.

So with beta you'd have D'rek's dread blocking you or IH's fleet and through Alpha you'd have Gnaw's or Nom's ships blocking you.

You'd be moving for VP gain surely or good position on the map and moving towards me would give you neither.

I see two options for you but I know you're canny and can work something different but option one, you have an action card that can help you bypass ships and a +1 movement.

Gnaw's homeworld is option one.

Option two is to take Mallice whilst Tapper is weak. He cannot resupply ships and his fleet is damaged. He's in a good position on the board and you want to weaken your competitors.

I don't mind discussing this with you but you'd probably want to keep your cards to your chest.

If the next agenda is indeed about destroying ships in wormhole systems, why would anyone spend a CT (and possibly a few ships) to fight me at Mallice this round, risking their own ships?
If it isn't, I will be out of Mallice and go back to my own side of the board in the next round, probably within my first 2 actions, with all plastic (if I still have ships there).


I am not saying he should attack you there, I was looking at what options he has. Gnaw has quash and other people have action cards that can replace agendas.

With your options from Mallice and with LWD you could get to IH's homeworld through his flagship,


Here's an early call, you're going to win this game :(

I love your board position.
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 01:23 PM

Once again I think about how I was far too kind to Tapper at the beginning of the game.
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 01:45 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:


I am not saying he should attack you there, I was looking at what options he has. Gnaw has quash and other people have action cards that can replace agendas.

With your options from Mallice and with LWD you could get to IH's homeworld through his flagship,


Here's an early call, you're going to win this game :(

I love your board position.

Far too early to say. I need to do a lot to catch up in points, let alone overtake all of IH, Morgoth and Nom. D'rek and yourself are in a position roughly equal with mine.

@ Khell: you did squander your game in the very first few turns. But I don't think you should have spent round 1-3 fighting me either. The deal we made for T/T was a good one for both of us at the time. Imho, your mistake was what you did next by going full migration, instead of hanging on longer to Herrah and Tar'Mann on my side and Lodor and Wellon on Nom's (or Lodor, Gral-Centauri, Herrah and Mecatol, for a super compact high influence empire).
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 01:58 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 25 September 2018 - 01:23 PM, said:

Once again I think about how I was far too kind to Tapper at the beginning of the game.


Is it your turn?
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 02:10 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 25 September 2018 - 01:23 PM, said:

Once again I think about how I was far too kind to Tapper at the beginning of the game.


Is it your turn?



No. Is it yours?
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 02:14 PM

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Posted 25 September 2018 - 02:15 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 25 September 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 25 September 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 25 September 2018 - 01:23 PM, said:

Once again I think about how I was far too kind to Tapper at the beginning of the game.


Is it your turn?



No. Is it yours?


:(

I made a joke :)
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