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#3821 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 07:46 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 14 September 2018 - 05:44 AM, said:

The other option is I call my votes from Morgoth and vote Twelve. With his votes there's 12 that could go that way.

What would that be worth to you Twelve?


I'm almost round back to your offer. Just one more option to try:

@Nom: Do you want your Rider to succeed? What can you offer in the way of bribes to these fine folk (mainly Tatts, possibly Tapper)?
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:04 AM

I am so confused.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:07 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 14 September 2018 - 08:04 AM, said:

I am so confused.


9 of your votes are available for one agenda. That is, if Twelve or I call in the 4 you owe. What are your thoughts on each one, where would you prefer each to go?
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:21 AM

I am confused as well. I would like to not be picked for the execution agenda, and I don't care who gets the crown.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:36 AM

What's there to be confused about? Most of you will be voting only on the execution agenda, Tatts and I are seeing if we can come to an agreement about the Crown agenda. If not, he'll probably get it. Unless Tapper does something, as he hasn't spoken a single word either way about either agenda so remains a mystery to all.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:40 AM

If it doesn't look like I'll be able to win Crown, I'll add my votes on IH for execution simply because it advances the Speaker token closer to me. Unless there's a compelling reason not to do that. I know you have offered me your racial PN, IH, which is tempting, and which could be enough to sway me not to add votes to you.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:42 AM

Feigned confusion by the two leaders. Neither wants to upset the apple cart.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 09:21 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 14 September 2018 - 08:40 AM, said:

If it doesn't look like I'll be able to win Crown, I'll add my votes on IH for execution simply because it advances the Speaker token closer to me. Unless there's a compelling reason not to do that. I know you have offered me your racial PN, IH, which is tempting, and which could be enough to sway me not to add votes to you.


Well if I'm not executed the offer of my racial PN and using my action card to move to starpoint is open.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 09:25 AM

Morgoth where are your votes going?
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 10:56 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 14 September 2018 - 09:25 AM, said:

Morgoth where are your votes going?


If you guys are voting for D'rek I'm down for that. She's been pretty clear in what she plans to do come the strategy phase.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 10:57 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 14 September 2018 - 08:07 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 14 September 2018 - 08:04 AM, said:

I am so confused.


9 of your votes are available for one agenda. That is, if Twelve or I call in the 4 you owe. What are your thoughts on each one, where would you prefer each to go?


Thanks! I don't really care much for the crown agenda one way or another, as long as it doesn't go to IH, Nom or D'rek. I long since resigned myself to never being able to get it myself.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 11:13 AM

Khell you'll be waiting a long time for a response from Nom.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 11:23 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 14 September 2018 - 11:13 AM, said:

Khell you'll be waiting a long time for a response from Nom.


And yet I wait. Basically, I want the crown but I don't want to give you everything you asked for. Plus I kinda want my Trade PN back, and am tempted to say I'll just give you my Crown votes if you give that back to me. But that's probably not a strong bargaining position unless I can get Nom (or Tapper?) to exert some influence/votes. Or maybe change the deal to 1 trade good, 1 action card, and 4 of my votes on a future agenda to replace the 4 you call in from Morgoth?

Twelve, if you're not voting on the Crown anymore, what are you doing?
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 11:24 AM

@IH: With Morgoth and Gnaw both throwing their votes against D'rek, perhaps you can spare a few to come my way for the Crown? :no
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 11:26 AM

Tapper won't vote against D'rek, I suspect. He has no reason to. And his 11 would beat the 8 you can muster, Tatts, unless combined with my 6. I reckon that's why he's keeping hush.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 11:36 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 14 September 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 14 September 2018 - 11:13 AM, said:

Khell you'll be waiting a long time for a response from Nom.


And yet I wait. Basically, I want the crown but I don't want to give you everything you asked for. Plus I kinda want my Trade PN back, and am tempted to say I'll just give you my Crown votes if you give that back to me. But that's probably not a strong bargaining position unless I can get Nom (or Tapper?) to exert some influence/votes. Or maybe change the deal to 1 trade good, 1 action card, and 4 of my votes on a future agenda to replace the 4 you call in from Morgoth?

Twelve, if you're not voting on the Crown anymore, what are you doing?



I'd accept that deal.

1 TG, 1 AC and 4 votes on a future agenda

In exchange for

My 4 votes and 4 of Morgoth's votes on the Crown to land on your head

Is this a deal?
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 11:54 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 14 September 2018 - 11:36 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 14 September 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 14 September 2018 - 11:13 AM, said:

Khell you'll be waiting a long time for a response from Nom.


And yet I wait. Basically, I want the crown but I don't want to give you everything you asked for. Plus I kinda want my Trade PN back, and am tempted to say I'll just give you my Crown votes if you give that back to me. But that's probably not a strong bargaining position unless I can get Nom (or Tapper?) to exert some influence/votes. Or maybe change the deal to 1 trade good, 1 action card, and 4 of my votes on a future agenda to replace the 4 you call in from Morgoth?

Twelve, if you're not voting on the Crown anymore, what are you doing?



I'd accept that deal.

1 TG, 1 AC and 4 votes on a future agenda

In exchange for

My 4 votes and 4 of Morgoth's votes on the Crown to land on your head

Is this a deal?


Yeah, deal then.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 11:55 AM

@IH: Don't try to call in D'rek's vote, you have enough to beat her without it.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 11:57 AM

Twelve, can I please get your 4 votes as well? In exchange I will not use your racial PN.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 12:08 PM

Public execution:

For D'rek to be executed - 32 votes (IH, Gnaw, Morgoth)

For IH to be executed - 26 votes (D'rek, Nom)

Tapper has 11, we don't know where he'll go but if he did vote on this agenda he's far likelier to vote for IH. That would put IH on 37. However, I think he'll vote for the Crown for himself. If D'rek thinks she can't win public execution, she might switch her votes to herself or Tapper for the Crown - if Tapper and D'rek joined up for the crown that would be 23 votes. Not much I can do about that really.

D'rek, if you don't vote for yourself or Tapper on the Crown - or better yet, vote for me - basically, if I win the Crown, I'll decline IH's offer to travel over.
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