[Gnaw]

Tapper, on 03 September 2018 - 02:15 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 03 September 2018 - 11:56 AM, said:

Tapper I won't make my move until we have a discussion.

I notice with Lightwave Deflector and double action that you can go for corner the market this round. If you have an action card that grants you plus 1 movement then that means you'll be popping in to say hello. Now that's fine, I can move right now to make this a moot point but less of a resistance to you would be Corn/Resc. What likelihood is it that you'd go there instead? I'd rather not activate Abyz/Fria yet you see

I will not attack Abyz/Fria.
That of course narrows my options considerably, so if anyone else wants the same promise, please consider compensation

Hmm.

IH, I guess I will be needing to use your racial PN this round after all. That B wormhole needs relocated.

[Imperial Historian]

Gnaw, on 03 September 2018 - 08:26 PM, said:

Tapper, on 03 September 2018 - 02:15 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 03 September 2018 - 11:56 AM, said:

Tapper I won't make my move until we have a discussion.

I notice with Lightwave Deflector and double action that you can go for corner the market this round. If you have an action card that grants you plus 1 movement then that means you'll be popping in to say hello. Now that's fine, I can move right now to make this a moot point but less of a resistance to you would be Corn/Resc. What likelihood is it that you'd go there instead? I'd rather not activate Abyz/Fria yet you see

I will not attack Abyz/Fria.
That of course narrows my options considerably, so if anyone else wants the same promise, please consider compensation

Hmm.

IH, I guess I will be needing to use your racial PN this round after all. That B wormhole needs relocated.

Ok, your trade PN for it and you use it this round.

Please don't be a dick and move it into one of my systems

[Gnaw]

Any reason I can’t drop it on the permanent Alpha wormhole? Or maybe the empty hex between Arinam and Rex.

Someplace inoccuos.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 03 September 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

IH, I have been considering taking Mansa 3 this round because of your comment to Nom about the wormhole. I mention this now because I also realise we have a standing agreement regarding this planet and would like to keep our relationship intact. Do you have any problem in me taking it back early next round?

I need mansa 3 for this round to score the hazardous planet VP this round as agreed. I would appreciate the chance to exhaust mansa 3 next round before you take it if possible.

[Imperial Historian]

Gnaw, on 03 September 2018 - 09:01 PM, said:

Any reason I can’t drop it on the permanent Alpha wormhole? Or maybe the empty hex between Arinam and Rex.

Someplace inoccuos.

You pay for the privelege so you can drop it where you want. You can threaten and extort people not to place it in there systems or you can place it somewhere innocuous. I don't really care where it goes, but I would prefer it not to be in any of my systems, but if you really want to place it there you've paid for the privelege.

[Imperial Historian]

Imperial Historian, on 03 September 2018 - 09:08 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 03 September 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

IH, I have been considering taking Mansa 3 this round because of your comment to Nom about the wormhole. I mention this now because I also realise we have a standing agreement regarding this planet and would like to keep our relationship intact. Do you have any problem in me taking it back early next round?

I need mansa 3 for this round to score the hazardous planet VP this round as agreed. I would appreciate the chance to exhaust mansa 3 next round before you take it if possible.

If it helps the infantry will almost certainly be gone from it by the second turn.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 03 September 2018 - 09:43 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 03 September 2018 - 09:08 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 03 September 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

IH, I have been considering taking Mansa 3 this round because of your comment to Nom about the wormhole. I mention this now because I also realise we have a standing agreement regarding this planet and would like to keep our relationship intact. Do you have any problem in me taking it back early next round?

I need mansa 3 for this round to score the hazardous planet VP this round as agreed. I would appreciate the chance to exhaust mansa 3 next round before you take it if possible.

If it helps the infantry will almost certainly be gone from it by the second turn.

This is acceptable. I'll move into Mansa 3 on or after turn 2.

[Tattersail_]

I know it's my turn but I need to converse with D'rek to see if she is playing leadership next turn.

[Khellendros]

Tatts, take all the time you need, as long as you like. I won't hassle you or constantly tell you it's your turn. I hope that everyone can learn from my example and treat others the same way

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 04 September 2018 - 07:47 AM, said:

Tatts, take all the time you need, as long as you like. I won't hassle you or constantly tell you it's your turn. I hope that everyone can learn from my example and treat others the same way

I am here. If D'rek decides that she doesn't want to play Leadership next turn then I am considering passing. Otherwise I will move ships, play PB and build something.

[Gnaw]

Khellendros, on 04 September 2018 - 07:47 AM, said:

Tatts, take all the time you need, as long as you like. I won't hassle you or constantly tell you it's your turn. I hope that everyone can learn from my example and treat others the same way

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw, on 04 September 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 04 September 2018 - 07:47 AM, said:

Tatts, take all the time you need, as long as you like. I won't hassle you or constantly tell you it's your turn. I hope that everyone can learn from my example and treat others the same way

Gnaw what's your plans now regarding Twelve? You planning to leave him alone?

Just going to point out that once next round starts he'll be able to build more ships as well and he's put himself into quite a strong position defensively. He'll only get stronger.

[Gnaw]

Tattersail_, on 04 September 2018 - 08:19 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 04 September 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 04 September 2018 - 07:47 AM, said:

Tatts, take all the time you need, as long as you like. I won't hassle you or constantly tell you it's your turn. I hope that everyone can learn from my example and treat others the same way

Gnaw what's your plans now regarding Twelve? You planning to leave him alone?

Just going to point out that once next round starts he'll be able to build more ships as well and he's put himself into quite a strong position defensively. He'll only get stronger.

I know. I'm only 60 something* with the ships he has now. Once he builds off the Logistics secondary....

Fucking D'rek.


* I do have an AC that helps those odds. Not enough to handle 2 more cruisers and 3 fighters.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 04 September 2018 - 08:33 AM

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw, on 04 September 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 September 2018 - 08:19 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 04 September 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 04 September 2018 - 07:47 AM, said:

Tatts, take all the time you need, as long as you like. I won't hassle you or constantly tell you it's your turn. I hope that everyone can learn from my example and treat others the same way

Gnaw what's your plans now regarding Twelve? You planning to leave him alone?

Just going to point out that once next round starts he'll be able to build more ships as well and he's put himself into quite a strong position defensively. He'll only get stronger.

I know. I'm only 60 something with the ships he has now. Once he builds off the Logistics secondary....

Fucking D'rek.

Let's break it down. Right now he has an army built but no resources to rebuild. So through a war of attrition he'd eventually lose but that means taking risks and inviting others to encroach on our territories. So it's decision time. Let him live, make his way to Mec Rex with that scary army or dwindle him down into pulp. D'rek/Tapper/Morgoth/IH/Nom are all benefiting from us engaging Twelve.

How about you strike a deal with him for his SFTT?

That's one option.

The other option is to risk attacking him and getting that army of his down to the bare minimum. Simulate a few battles. I knew when I attack him last round that I'd reduce his army and without Diplomacy we both could have taken him this round.

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw, on 04 September 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

* I do have an AC that helps those odds. Not enough to handle 2 more cruisers and 3 fighters.

He has 4 resources. That's it. He can only add 2 destroyers and 3 fighters.

Another option would be for you to increase your fleet supply via leadership secondary. Then you can add the destroyer in the empty hex if you haven't planned for that. Otherwise moving cruiser to empty hex, building destroyers in Everra, removing from Everra, moving destroyers to empty hex and preparing for next round.

[Gnaw]

Tattersail_, on 04 September 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 04 September 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 September 2018 - 08:19 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 04 September 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 04 September 2018 - 07:47 AM, said:

Tatts, take all the time you need, as long as you like. I won't hassle you or constantly tell you it's your turn. I hope that everyone can learn from my example and treat others the same way

Gnaw what's your plans now regarding Twelve? You planning to leave him alone?

Just going to point out that once next round starts he'll be able to build more ships as well and he's put himself into quite a strong position defensively. He'll only get stronger.

I know. I'm only 60 something with the ships he has now. Once he builds off the Logistics secondary....

Fucking D'rek.

Let's break it down. Right now he has an army built but no resources to rebuild. So through a war of attrition he'd eventually lose but that means taking risks and inviting others to encroach on our territories. So it's decision time. Let him live, make his way to Mec Rex with that scary army or dwindle him down into pulp. D'rek/Tapper/Morgoth/IH/Nom are all benefiting from us engaging Twelve.

How about you strike a deal with him for his SFTT?

That's one option.

The other option is to risk attacking him and getting that army of his down to the bare minimum. Simulate a few battles. I knew when I attack him last round that I'd reduce his army and without Diplomacy we both could have taken him this round.

Letting him be won't work IMHO. He really can't come after me so he'll go for you. So,

1) you sacrifice those 3 cruisers and destroyer on an attack to thin him out and then 2 turns from now I attack hoping to survive with at least one ship. Or,

2) I attack with my ships 2 turns from now and hope I can clean out enough that you can beat him turn 1 of next round.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 04 September 2018 - 08:45 AM

[Gnaw]

Tattersail_, on 04 September 2018 - 08:44 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 04 September 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

* I do have an AC that helps those odds. Not enough to handle 2 more cruisers and 3 fighters.

He has 4 resources. That's it. He can only add 2 destroyers and 3 fighters.

Another option would be for you to increase your fleet supply via leadership secondary. Then you can add the destroyer in the empty hex if you haven't planned for that. Otherwise moving cruiser to empty hex, building destroyers in Everra, removing from Everra, moving destroyers to empty hex and preparing for next round.

Assuming I can get the Leadership before having to pass, I'm planning on using a build in Everra to replace my flagship this round. After he blows the existing one to hell during the attack.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 04 September 2018 - 08:49 AM

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw, on 04 September 2018 - 08:44 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 September 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 04 September 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 September 2018 - 08:19 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 04 September 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 04 September 2018 - 07:47 AM, said:

Tatts, take all the time you need, as long as you like. I won't hassle you or constantly tell you it's your turn. I hope that everyone can learn from my example and treat others the same way

Gnaw what's your plans now regarding Twelve? You planning to leave him alone?

Just going to point out that once next round starts he'll be able to build more ships as well and he's put himself into quite a strong position defensively. He'll only get stronger.

I know. I'm only 60 something with the ships he has now. Once he builds off the Logistics secondary....

Fucking D'rek.

Let's break it down. Right now he has an army built but no resources to rebuild. So through a war of attrition he'd eventually lose but that means taking risks and inviting others to encroach on our territories. So it's decision time. Let him live, make his way to Mec Rex with that scary army or dwindle him down into pulp. D'rek/Tapper/Morgoth/IH/Nom are all benefiting from us engaging Twelve.

How about you strike a deal with him for his SFTT?

That's one option.

The other option is to risk attacking him and getting that army of his down to the bare minimum. Simulate a few battles. I knew when I attack him last round that I'd reduce his army and without Diplomacy we both could have taken him this round.

Letting him be won't work IMHO. He really can't come after me so he'll go for you. So,

1) you sacrifice those 3 cruisers and destroyer on an attack to thin him out and then 2 turns from now I attack hoping to survive with at least one ship. Or,

2) I attack with my ships 2 turns from now and hope I can clean out enough that you can beat him turn 1 of next round.

Yes when he builds you go from 60% win to 4% win from the battle calculator. What it doesn't show is how many ships he will have left.

I was going to move all those ships into Thibah so they'll be ready and build extra in Sakalug that can also move in.

[Gnaw]

Tattersail_, on 04 September 2018 - 08:53 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 04 September 2018 - 08:44 AM, said:

2) I attack with my ships 2 turns from now and hope I can clean out enough that you can beat him turn 1 of next round.

Yes when he builds you go from 60% win to 4% win from the battle calculator. What it doesn't show is how many ships he will have left.

I was going to move all those ships into Thibah so they'll be ready and build extra in Sakalug that can also move in.

So option 2 it is.

[Tattersail_]

Now delete all planning before Twelve sees

Just imagine he got Mec Rex. Tough nut.