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#3021 User is offline   Imperial Historian 

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 04:02 PM

View PostD, on 29 August 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

And you know Morgoth, with Mallice's space being open there's also the possibility of us using Twelve's racial PN twice before your turn to move both wormhole tokens and set up a different destination. Like, hypothetically I could move the alpha token to Mehar Xull and then you move the beta token to Nevant and move to Mehar via Mallice.


That would work if Morgoth has a movement speed of more than 1 and wasn't allied with Nom ;) He would need me to play my action card to move anywhere other than mallice.

But if you want to buy my racial PN and use it before Morgoth goes, I'm open to offers.
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 04:08 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 29 August 2018 - 04:02 PM, said:

View PostD, on 29 August 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

And you know Morgoth, with Mallice's space being open there's also the possibility of us using Twelve's racial PN twice before your turn to move both wormhole tokens and set up a different destination. Like, hypothetically I could move the alpha token to Mehar Xull and then you move the beta token to Nevant and move to Mehar via Mallice.


That would work if Morgoth has a movement speed of more than 1 and wasn't allied with Nom ;) He would need me to play my action card to move anywhere other than mallice.

But if you want to buy my racial PN and use it before Morgoth goes, I'm open to offers.


Hah yeah, I miss being able to go anywhere at any time like I could as the necro. The green path is a little too turtly for my tastes.
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 04:13 PM

View Posttwelve, on 29 August 2018 - 03:56 PM, said:

You mean IHS raciAL pn. Pretty sure neither of you can use mine at all.


Oops, yeah that

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 04:16 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 29 August 2018 - 04:02 PM, said:

View PostD, on 29 August 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

And you know Morgoth, with Mallice's space being open there's also the possibility of us using Twelve's racial PN twice before your turn to move both wormhole tokens and set up a different destination. Like, hypothetically I could move the alpha token to Mehar Xull and then you move the beta token to Nevant and move to Mehar via Mallice.


That would work if Morgoth has a movement speed of more than 1 and wasn't allied with Nom ;) He would need me to play my action card to move anywhere other than mallice.

But if you want to buy my racial PN and use it before Morgoth goes, I'm open to offers.


Well, allied with Nom doesn't cause any issues since there's no units in Mehar Xull - wouldn't trigger Ceasfire/SFTT. Mehar Xull was just one example, though, there's other possibilities.

Movement, yeah that'd be more of an issue, unless he has Flank Speed or can buy your AC. The Cruisers are fast enough, just not the carrier.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 04:44 PM

View PostD, on 29 August 2018 - 03:13 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 29 August 2018 - 07:23 AM, said:

For sale

- 1 Construction Rider. Ideal for players who placed docks in Sakulag when they hope to control Winnu, or to offer to travelling Greghs, Ghary's and Ghuillaume's.

- 1 Support for the Throne. Need an additional point that no-one else can also obtain? Come get it while it is hot.


How about 2 TG for the Rider, Cybernetic Enhancements for SFTT, and as long as I hold your SFTT my PDS IIs will never fire upon your ships for the rest of the game?

(edit: on top of our existing peace deal... the wording above sounds like I'm setting up some suspicious technical betrayal but no, 100% peace between us, I will never attack one of your systems SFTT or otherwise)

You have a deal for the Rider ;)
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 04:57 PM

Re the construction rider and dreks construction ability... Would that mean that mean the space dock was placed in the agenda phase? So d'rek would exhaust planets in the agenda phase to build, then refresh all her planets? If so I think you've undersold yourself there Tapper
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 04:58 PM

So I'm looking for some advice. Trying to figure out what build would give me the best shot of making it through next round. Should I build my flagship and 4 fighters, 2 dreads and 4 fighters or something else?

The flagship with what I'm likely to face gives me 4 shots versus 2 for the two new dreads but the dreads hit 20% more often and it gives me 1 more hit to work with. So the age old question of quantity vs quality.
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 05:10 PM

I use this to work out odds:

http://alphamou.se/ti4calc/

Generally it's surprising how much difference an extra ship can make, but your flagship is probably more bang for your buck with your limited fleet capacity.
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 05:18 PM

I've got the best fleet capacity of any race at the moment. I could build 4 cruisers and 2 fighters if I want which is similar to what the flagship would give me in terms of firepower with a couple extra hits available. I'll try that link out when I get a chance.
I don't know what I'm doing but it sounds good.
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 06:49 PM

Looking over everyone's status posts, wow a lot of big fleet supplies! Tatts with 5, IH with 6?! Wow! But other than Morgoth and I everyone is at 2 or less strategy pool... and I promised not to play LEADERSHIP first turn. Twelve and Nom obviously won't play their strategy cards right away, but everyone else could and the secondaries would be miserable. I'm guessing Khell definitely will (PDSs to Bereg and Mecatol?) and no reason for Morgoth, Tapper or IH not to, either. Tatts could ruin a lot of people's days by playing right away Trade and giving no free refreshes. Yikes.

You should totally all do this ;)

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 06:51 PM

And on that note... I should point out that I'm still holding my racial PN, which gives you an extra strategy CT. Consider it for sale ;)

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:00 PM

View Posttwelve, on 29 August 2018 - 05:18 PM, said:

I've got the best fleet capacity of any race at the moment. I could build 4 cruisers and 2 fighters if I want which is similar to what the flagship would give me in terms of firepower with a couple extra hits available. I'll try that link out when I get a chance.


You didn't know about that battle calculator? I thought everybody's been using it! Don't forget to click on the options to bring up further customisations.
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:01 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 29 August 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 29 August 2018 - 05:18 PM, said:

I've got the best fleet capacity of any race at the moment. I could build 4 cruisers and 2 fighters if I want which is similar to what the flagship would give me in terms of firepower with a couple extra hits available. I'll try that link out when I get a chance.


You didn't know about that battle calculator? I thought everybody's been using it! Don't forget to click on the options to bring up further customisations.


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View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:07 PM

View PostD, on 29 August 2018 - 06:49 PM, said:

Looking over everyone's status posts, wow a lot of big fleet supplies! Tatts with 5, IH with 6?! Wow! But other than Morgoth and I everyone is at 2 or less strategy pool... and I promised not to play LEADERSHIP first turn. Twelve and Nom obviously won't play their strategy cards right away, but everyone else could and the secondaries would be miserable. I'm guessing Khell definitely will (PDSs to Bereg and Mecatol?) and no reason for Morgoth, Tapper or IH not to, either. Tatts could ruin a lot of people's days by playing right away Trade and giving no free refreshes. Yikes.

You should totally all do this ;)


You know d'rek it really is a pleasure watching you work. And I'll trade you my racial PN for yours if you use it first turn.
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:22 PM

Hmm interesting. According to that simulator having 5 dreads is better than 3 and my flagship. Though when I did some mock simulators on my own I got slightly better results with my Flagship. What to do? what to do?
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:55 PM

View PostD, on 29 August 2018 - 06:51 PM, said:

And on that note... I should point out that I'm still holding my racial PN, which gives you an extra strategy CT. Consider it for sale ;)


Or you could hand it to me in recompense for stealing Leadership. I'm not holding my breath however.

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 08:42 PM

Hey, so I must have a racial PN too right? What does it even do?
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 08:42 PM

Ooh, IH, it might be perfect for you! Take Bereg without casualties!
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 08:45 PM

Sorry for not being here today folks - it looks like all the strategy cards are chosen, so I'll put a custodian post in there just so that you guys can start playing, but that's all I have time to do for now.

Take 2 days sick from work and it seems like shit has gone down!!! I've been trying to just get through emails all day! I'll certainly do a proper map update later!
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 08:46 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 29 August 2018 - 08:42 PM, said:

Ooh, IH, it might be perfect for you! Take Bereg without casualties!


And also you don't take any casualties and get to move those infantry somewhere you might want them. I'll take your racial PN instead of the 1tg?
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