[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 28 August 2018 - 10:48 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 28 August 2018 - 10:40 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 August 2018 - 10:18 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 28 August 2018 - 10:01 PM, said:

Leave mansa 3 alone until I score the own 4 planets of one type objective and give me 1tg and I'll not attack bereg first turn and I won't attack mecatol rex this round. I think that's a fair trade.

Leave Bereg UNTIL I use it (might be second turn if I end up using whatever strategy card i get first turn) and you have a deal on the above.

I cannot stall more than one turn, so if you want me to wait longer than that you'll have to get something higher in the initiative than technology.

It'll be either first or second turn.

Well come back when you've picked. As I've said I can only stall one turn.

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 28 August 2018 - 11:01 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 August 2018 - 10:52 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 August 2018 - 09:51 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 August 2018 - 08:50 PM, said:

Well Khell I don't mind you getting what you need but Twelve screwed me out of commodities last turn and I appreciate the effort on his behalf but I'm not going to let him get extra tgs this round to rebuild after I attacked him.

No problem then. What I need is a refresh for me, Gnaw, Morgoth, and Twelve.

Alternatively, you play Trade first turn (if you weren't already intending to), and you give refreshes to Twelve, Gnaw, and Morgoth, and no free refresh for D'rek, Nom, and IH.

Alternatively alternatively, the above (Trade first turn, free refresh for Twelve, Gnaw, and Morgoth) but you can also refresh for anyone whose Trade PN you hold, and you pay me 3TGs.

You need free refreshes for Gnaw, Morgoth and Twelve? How many TGs is that? 12 or something?

Now the alternative is what? You come say hello into my systems?

You, D'rek or IH are the only directions for me to go in. When you think about it, I'm not actually asking you to pay anything to me (unless your preference is option 3).

I feel like there are other directions you could go...

Alas I don't have any of Tatts' magic to offer you away from myself.


@Nom - if Khell moves to Tura Nora and you use Experimental Battlestation on him I'll pay you 3 TG and I won't fire my PDS on you when you go for MR. No need to accept/decline now, you can decide if/when that time comes.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 28 August 2018 - 11:02 PM, said:

How about this Khell?

We'll keep our earlier agreement were you leave me alone unless provoked.

I'll give the free refreshes to Gnaw, Morgoth and Twelve and you give me 5 trade goods for my 6 commodities.

IH and Tapper will both get free refreshes as I have their trade Pns.

Also a question as to why you do not want Nom or D'rek receiving a free refresh? Nom isn't getting one as Twelve has his PN I think. So that leaves D'rek who's commodities are only 2 and she'll have no one to trade them with.

If you agree then I will throw my votes behind an agenda of your choice too as long as it benefits you and doesn't screw me.

Because they're hanging around Mecatol so any fewer resources they get I like.

That's 2 TGs lower than I asked for so no. You have hardly any votes so that's not particularly appealing, and neither can you guarantee how many extra votes you might be able to get with the Bribery AC. You said I would get what I needed and I need to be compensated for the upset of not giving Twelve 3TGs like I wanted.

I will swap you 5 TGs for 8 of your commodities/TGs, plus refreshes for Twelve, Gnaw, and Morgoth. No refresh for D'rek. You use Trade turn 1.

Or you play Trade first turn, refresh for Twelve, Gnaw, Morgoth, don't refresh for Nom, D'rek, and IH, and I will swap you 6TGs for 6 commodities.

Or you refresh for Twelve, Gnaw, Morgoth, and me. I will trade TGs for commodities should you need it.


Edit: Corrected a mistake.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 29 August 2018 - 12:09 AM

[Gnaw]

Tatts, can you delay Trade until turn 3?

Edit: Oh. NVM. That’s why Twelve took Diplomacy.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 29 August 2018 - 12:50 AM

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 28 August 2018 - 11:59 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 August 2018 - 11:02 PM, said:

How about this Khell?

We'll keep our earlier agreement were you leave me alone unless provoked.

I'll give the free refreshes to Gnaw, Morgoth and Twelve and you give me 5 trade goods for my 6 commodities.

IH and Tapper will both get free refreshes as I have their trade Pns.

Also a question as to why you do not want Nom or D'rek receiving a free refresh? Nom isn't getting one as Twelve has his PN I think. So that leaves D'rek who's commodities are only 2 and she'll have no one to trade them with.

If you agree then I will throw my votes behind an agenda of your choice too as long as it benefits you and doesn't screw me.

Because they're hanging around Mecatol so any fewer resources they get I like.

That's 2 TGs lower than I asked for so no. You have hardly any votes so that's not particularly appealing, and neither can you guarantee how many extra votes you might be able to get with the Bribery AC. You said I would get what I needed and I need to be compensated for the upset of not giving Twelve 3TGs like I wanted.

I will swap you 5 TGs for 8 of your commodities/TGs, plus refreshes for Twelve, Gnaw, and Morgoth. No refresh for D'rek. You use Trade turn 1.

Or you play Trade first turn, refresh for Twelve, Gnaw, Morgoth, don't refresh for Nom, D'rek, and IH, and I will swap you 6TGs for 6 commodities.

Or you refresh for Twelve, Gnaw, Morgoth, and me. I will trade TGs for commodities should you need it.


Edit: Corrected a mistake.

Come on now khell, let's not deny me a free refresh in your blackmailing of tatts, I'm trying to let bygones be bygones after your hijacking of bereg lirta. Do you not want there to be peace and harmony in the galaxy?

Tatts if it's any help khells bark is worse than his bite, he'll generally go away of his own accord if you ignore him and show him the big stick which is coming. I would appreciate a free refresh in order to pay what I owe.

[twelve]

Gnaw, on 29 August 2018 - 12:47 AM, said:

Tatts, can you delay Trade until turn 3?

Edit: Oh. NVM. That’s why Twelve took Diplomacy.

[Morgoth]

Imperial Historian, on 28 August 2018 - 09:45 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 28 August 2018 - 07:47 PM, said:

D, on 28 August 2018 - 07:41 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 28 August 2018 - 07:35 PM, said:

D, on 28 August 2018 - 07:33 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 28 August 2018 - 07:27 PM, said:

D'rek, I'd be happy to move my fleet away from your systems.

How do you propose to do that...?

Hey IH, I'll make you speaker if you leave Leadership for me and give me your racial PN.

Well, I'm alright with that I guess. But {a} it has to be on your first turn, and {b} I pick whether it's the alpha or beta wormhole token moved. (I'm not sure which I actually want... but probably beta... 2 adjacent wormholes seems silly)

That's fine by me.

Ok if I give you my racial PN and you make me speaker I'm ok with that if you use the wormhole ability this turn, but where are you planning to move your ships? Nearly all of your options seem to involve attacking someone, and half of those options would mean attacking me.

So I'm not going to agree to a deal until we establish that my systems aren't going to be attacked, and if you move into one of my systems that I am compensated for any inconvenience.

I’m moving where I should have retreated if it had occured to me. To Mallice. I wont take the planet, and you’ll get free protection.

I’ll do it first turn and i’ll make you speaker, if you confirm that you’ll leave Leadership for me.

[Imperial Historian]

Ok if you'll leave me the planet, deal.

[Morgoth]

Glad to hear it!

Now, are we waiting for D'rek to take her first turn?

edit: oh, right, several players haven't picked yet.

This post has been edited by Morgoth: 29 August 2018 - 06:26 AM

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 29 August 2018 - 02:40 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 August 2018 - 11:59 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 August 2018 - 11:02 PM, said:

How about this Khell?

We'll keep our earlier agreement were you leave me alone unless provoked.

I'll give the free refreshes to Gnaw, Morgoth and Twelve and you give me 5 trade goods for my 6 commodities.

IH and Tapper will both get free refreshes as I have their trade Pns.

Also a question as to why you do not want Nom or D'rek receiving a free refresh? Nom isn't getting one as Twelve has his PN I think. So that leaves D'rek who's commodities are only 2 and she'll have no one to trade them with.

If you agree then I will throw my votes behind an agenda of your choice too as long as it benefits you and doesn't screw me.

Because they're hanging around Mecatol so any fewer resources they get I like.

That's 2 TGs lower than I asked for so no. You have hardly any votes so that's not particularly appealing, and neither can you guarantee how many extra votes you might be able to get with the Bribery AC. You said I would get what I needed and I need to be compensated for the upset of not giving Twelve 3TGs like I wanted.

I will swap you 5 TGs for 8 of your commodities/TGs, plus refreshes for Twelve, Gnaw, and Morgoth. No refresh for D'rek. You use Trade turn 1.

Or you play Trade first turn, refresh for Twelve, Gnaw, Morgoth, don't refresh for Nom, D'rek, and IH, and I will swap you 6TGs for 6 commodities.

Or you refresh for Twelve, Gnaw, Morgoth, and me. I will trade TGs for commodities should you need it.


Edit: Corrected a mistake.

Come on now khell, let's not deny me a free refresh in your blackmailing of tatts, I'm trying to let bygones be bygones after your hijacking of bereg lirta. Do you not want there to be peace and harmony in the galaxy?

Tatts if it's any help khells bark is worse than his bite, he'll generally go away of his own accord if you ignore him and show him the big stick which is coming. I would appreciate a free refresh in order to pay what I owe.

Please, IH, there was nothing you could have thrown at me which I couldn't have beaten away That I keep on moving is purely my choice of how to play this game. I'd say you should consider it fortunate that I struck a deal with your neighbours, otherwise you wouldn't have a homeworld right now.

In any case, why do you care about refreshes when Tatts holds your Trade PN? And anyway, that was only one of three options I gave.

[Khellendros]

I'll tell you what, I'll settle for your suggestion Tatts, and trade you an equal amount of TGs for commodities, if you play it first turn and give me an AC of your choice (other than Bribery).

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 29 August 2018 - 07:18 AM

[Morgoth]

Giving up your home systems like you did wasn't the best strategy, Khell, but I sure enjoy the level of chaos you bring to the galaxy.

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 29 August 2018 - 06:58 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 29 August 2018 - 02:40 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 August 2018 - 11:59 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 August 2018 - 11:02 PM, said:

How about this Khell?

We'll keep our earlier agreement were you leave me alone unless provoked.

I'll give the free refreshes to Gnaw, Morgoth and Twelve and you give me 5 trade goods for my 6 commodities.

IH and Tapper will both get free refreshes as I have their trade Pns.

Also a question as to why you do not want Nom or D'rek receiving a free refresh? Nom isn't getting one as Twelve has his PN I think. So that leaves D'rek who's commodities are only 2 and she'll have no one to trade them with.

If you agree then I will throw my votes behind an agenda of your choice too as long as it benefits you and doesn't screw me.

Because they're hanging around Mecatol so any fewer resources they get I like.

That's 2 TGs lower than I asked for so no. You have hardly any votes so that's not particularly appealing, and neither can you guarantee how many extra votes you might be able to get with the Bribery AC. You said I would get what I needed and I need to be compensated for the upset of not giving Twelve 3TGs like I wanted.

I will swap you 5 TGs for 8 of your commodities/TGs, plus refreshes for Twelve, Gnaw, and Morgoth. No refresh for D'rek. You use Trade turn 1.

Or you play Trade first turn, refresh for Twelve, Gnaw, Morgoth, don't refresh for Nom, D'rek, and IH, and I will swap you 6TGs for 6 commodities.

Or you refresh for Twelve, Gnaw, Morgoth, and me. I will trade TGs for commodities should you need it.


Edit: Corrected a mistake.

Come on now khell, let's not deny me a free refresh in your blackmailing of tatts, I'm trying to let bygones be bygones after your hijacking of bereg lirta. Do you not want there to be peace and harmony in the galaxy?

Tatts if it's any help khells bark is worse than his bite, he'll generally go away of his own accord if you ignore him and show him the big stick which is coming. I would appreciate a free refresh in order to pay what I owe.

Please, IH, there was nothing you could have thrown at me which I couldn't have beaten away That I keep on moving is purely my choice of how to play this game. I'd say you should consider it fortunate that I struck a deal with your neighbours, otherwise you wouldn't have a homeworld right now.

In any case, why do you care about refreshes when Tatts holds your Trade PN? And anyway, that was only one of three options I gave.

I have thought about this on the way to work and those that do not have their trade agreements have less bargaining power for future deals. IH would want his back so he can deal again. I am considering both options at the moment Khell. I am going to work out what it will cost you not to have any refreshes at all, what you could do and if that would also be within your benefit against what I am going to do this round.

I don't see how you need to be compensated for not giving Twelve trade goods, as he can cash them in the round after just like I had to do. If you mean compensated so that you give him trade goods and he give your trade PN back then that defeats the purpose of me not giving him a free refresh in the first place.

I want an amicable relationship with you so I'm going to see how a deal can be struck.

[Tapper]

For sale

- 1 Construction Rider. Ideal for players who placed docks in Sakulag when they hope to control Winnu, or to offer to travelling Greghs, Ghary's and Ghuillaume's.

- 1 Support for the Throne. Need an additional point that no-one else can also obtain? Come get it while it is hot.

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 29 August 2018 - 07:18 AM, said:

I'll tell you what, I'll settle for your suggestion Tatts, and trade you an equal amount of TGs for commodities, if you play it first turn and give me an AC of your choice (other than Bribery).

So;

Quote

We'll keep our earlier agreement were you leave me alone unless provoked.

I'll pop trade turn one


I'll give the free refreshes to Gnaw, Morgoth and Twelve and you give me 6 trade goods for my 6 commodities

IH and Tapper will both get free refreshes as I have their trade PNs

If you agree then I will throw my votes behind an agenda of your choice too as long as it benefits you and doesn't screw me.

In addition you will receive one action card of my choice that is not Bribery.

This post has been edited by Tattersail_: 29 August 2018 - 07:32 AM

[Khellendros]

@ Tatts:

Seems right.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 29 August 2018 - 07:37 AM

[Tattersail_]

Tapper, on 29 August 2018 - 07:23 AM, said:

For sale

- 1 Construction Rider. Ideal for players who placed docks in Sakulag when they hope to control Winnu, or to offer to travelling Greghs, Ghary's and Ghuillaume's.

- 1 Support for the Throne. Need an additional point that no-one else can also obtain? Come get it while it is hot.

What would you like for either?

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 29 August 2018 - 07:36 AM, said:

Seems right.

I'm not lawyering you here, anything seem amiss?

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 29 August 2018 - 07:38 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 29 August 2018 - 07:36 AM, said:

Seems right.

I'm not lawyering you here, anything seem amiss?

No, I think it should suffice.

[Morgoth]

Tapper, on 29 August 2018 - 07:23 AM, said:

For sale

- 1 Construction Rider. Ideal for players who placed docks in Sakulag when they hope to control Winnu, or to offer to travelling Greghs, Ghary's and Ghuillaume's.

- 1 Support for the Throne. Need an additional point that no-one else can also obtain? Come get it while it is hot.

I don't have all that much, but I can offer my trade and vote PN