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Mafia 147.5: The Office

#81 User is offline   Skintick 

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:40 AM

Right, i'm here for a bit reading up. Switching alts often is grating.

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:52 AM

View PostAy Estos, on 20 June 2018 - 10:59 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 20 June 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 19 June 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 04:10 PM, said:

And if we're lucky, we hit scum.


Really?

I'm voting for Fanderay just to be absolutely 100% certain of his CF. The chances of him being a killer and not noticing game started are very slim. I'm aiming to eliminate WIFOM speculation over a null CF in later days.

You actually think there's a chance he might be scum. That's... scummy.


I'm just saying there's a chance. Slight as it may be. As I said in the previous post though, I do think he's town and lynching him today helps prevent us from lynching another (potentially productive) member of town. This way we only lose two town on d1 instead of three due to a modkill. It's just plain numbers.


Wow.

Am I reading this right? You think he's town but you're voting him anyway?

Aranatha made sense but you don't.


How did Ara make sense but Thyr not?

Thyr says they think Fande is town, but there's a chance they're scum

Ara says there's basically no chance of Fande being scum

You criticise Thyr for voting someone who they think is town, while saying that Aranatha, who voted Fande believing he's nearly 100% town, makes sense


View PostAranatha, on 19 June 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

Vote Fanderay

If we're potentially getting a non-posting modkill I'd rather know for sure who they were with a full CF.



View PostAranatha, on 19 June 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 04:10 PM, said:

And if we're lucky, we hit scum.


Really?

I'm voting for Fanderay just to be absolutely 100% certain of his CF. The chances of him being a killer and not noticing game started are very slim. I'm aiming to eliminate WIFOM speculation over a null CF in later days.

You actually think there's a chance he might be scum. That's... scummy.




Nah, there is a difference. Ara wants clarity of information which helps town in the long run and cuts out wifom.

I'm not saying it's great but there is a difference on why they voted, and their motivations.

#83 User is offline   Skintick 

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:53 AM

View PostRuse, on 21 June 2018 - 03:38 AM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 20 June 2018 - 10:59 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 20 June 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 19 June 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 04:10 PM, said:

And if we're lucky, we hit scum.


Really?

I'm voting for Fanderay just to be absolutely 100% certain of his CF. The chances of him being a killer and not noticing game started are very slim. I'm aiming to eliminate WIFOM speculation over a null CF in later days.

You actually think there's a chance he might be scum. That's... scummy.


I'm just saying there's a chance. Slight as it may be. As I said in the previous post though, I do think he's town and lynching him today helps prevent us from lynching another (potentially productive) member of town. This way we only lose two town on d1 instead of three due to a modkill. It's just plain numbers.


Wow.

Am I reading this right? You think he's town but you're voting him anyway?

Aranatha made sense but you don't.


How did Ara make sense but Thyr not?

Thyr says they think Fande is town, but there's a chance they're scum

Ara says there's basically no chance of Fande being scum

You criticise Thyr for voting someone who they think is town, while saying that Aranatha, who voted Fande believing he's nearly 100% town, makes sense


Yeah Skintick is jumping at the shadows of ants.

In fact his overly aggressive manuevring is definitely cause for concern.

Scum trying to steer the day 2 thread? Probably.


If I wanted to steer I'd be more active and involved in the discussion throughout the day, I've created talking points. They are being discussed. Job done.

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 09:02 AM

Okay the red flag for me today is people assuming scum will do something and going off that as concrete.

This one on and one off nonsense. Scum need to lynch as much as town do. A modkill lynch to see the CF with so little activity is the easiest lynch to get, you don't even need a proper excuse. For me, Aranatha could have done it to distract from Jalan who had 2 votes at the time, but I wouldn't stake my life on it.

It is funny though how the two people I find a little bit suspicious, Jalan and Thyrllan, are the first ones advocating that scum would be off the train.

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 09:27 AM

View PostSkintick, on 21 June 2018 - 09:02 AM, said:

Okay the red flag for me today is people assuming scum will do something and going off that as concrete.

This one on and one off nonsense. Scum need to lynch as much as town do. A modkill lynch to see the CF with so little activity is the easiest lynch to get, you don't even need a proper excuse. For me, Aranatha could have done it to distract from Jalan who had 2 votes at the time, but I wouldn't stake my life on it.

It is funny though how the two people I find a little bit suspicious, Jalan and Thyrllan, are the first ones advocating that scum would be off the train.



Confirmation bias?

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 09:43 AM

It does look like there may be some deflection off Jalan and Thyrllan at this point so I'm going to leave a vote on Jalan for now.
Vote Jalan

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 11:28 AM

PS is here, vote update will come when I get to work
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Posted 21 June 2018 - 11:49 AM

View PostSkintick, on 21 June 2018 - 08:52 AM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 20 June 2018 - 10:59 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 20 June 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 19 June 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 04:10 PM, said:

And if we're lucky, we hit scum.


Really?

I'm voting for Fanderay just to be absolutely 100% certain of his CF. The chances of him being a killer and not noticing game started are very slim. I'm aiming to eliminate WIFOM speculation over a null CF in later days.

You actually think there's a chance he might be scum. That's... scummy.


I'm just saying there's a chance. Slight as it may be. As I said in the previous post though, I do think he's town and lynching him today helps prevent us from lynching another (potentially productive) member of town. This way we only lose two town on d1 instead of three due to a modkill. It's just plain numbers.


Wow.

Am I reading this right? You think he's town but you're voting him anyway?

Aranatha made sense but you don't.


How did Ara make sense but Thyr not?

Thyr says they think Fande is town, but there's a chance they're scum

Ara says there's basically no chance of Fande being scum

You criticise Thyr for voting someone who they think is town, while saying that Aranatha, who voted Fande believing he's nearly 100% town, makes sense


View PostAranatha, on 19 June 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

Vote Fanderay

If we're potentially getting a non-posting modkill I'd rather know for sure who they were with a full CF.



View PostAranatha, on 19 June 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 04:10 PM, said:

And if we're lucky, we hit scum.


Really?

I'm voting for Fanderay just to be absolutely 100% certain of his CF. The chances of him being a killer and not noticing game started are very slim. I'm aiming to eliminate WIFOM speculation over a null CF in later days.

You actually think there's a chance he might be scum. That's... scummy.




Nah, there is a difference. Ara wants clarity of information which helps town in the long run and cuts out wifom.

I'm not saying it's great but there is a difference on why they voted, and their motivations.


Yeah, and Thyrlan is saying that + hoping there will be a fringe benefit of hitting scum.

Since when has hoping to lynch scum been suspicious?

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 12:06 PM

It is Day 2. 1 hour and 20 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 votes Jalan (Skintick, Okaros)
1 vote Thyrllan (Aranatha)

Players not voted: (Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Ruse, Thyrllan)
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#90 User is offline   Skintick 

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 12:43 PM

View PostRuse, on 21 June 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 21 June 2018 - 08:52 AM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 20 June 2018 - 10:59 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 20 June 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 19 June 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 04:10 PM, said:

And if we're lucky, we hit scum.


Really?

I'm voting for Fanderay just to be absolutely 100% certain of his CF. The chances of him being a killer and not noticing game started are very slim. I'm aiming to eliminate WIFOM speculation over a null CF in later days.

You actually think there's a chance he might be scum. That's... scummy.


I'm just saying there's a chance. Slight as it may be. As I said in the previous post though, I do think he's town and lynching him today helps prevent us from lynching another (potentially productive) member of town. This way we only lose two town on d1 instead of three due to a modkill. It's just plain numbers.


Wow.

Am I reading this right? You think he's town but you're voting him anyway?

Aranatha made sense but you don't.


How did Ara make sense but Thyr not?

Thyr says they think Fande is town, but there's a chance they're scum

Ara says there's basically no chance of Fande being scum

You criticise Thyr for voting someone who they think is town, while saying that Aranatha, who voted Fande believing he's nearly 100% town, makes sense


View PostAranatha, on 19 June 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

Vote Fanderay

If we're potentially getting a non-posting modkill I'd rather know for sure who they were with a full CF.



View PostAranatha, on 19 June 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 04:10 PM, said:

And if we're lucky, we hit scum.


Really?

I'm voting for Fanderay just to be absolutely 100% certain of his CF. The chances of him being a killer and not noticing game started are very slim. I'm aiming to eliminate WIFOM speculation over a null CF in later days.

You actually think there's a chance he might be scum. That's... scummy.




Nah, there is a difference. Ara wants clarity of information which helps town in the long run and cuts out wifom.

I'm not saying it's great but there is a difference on why they voted, and their motivations.


Yeah, and Thyrlan is saying that + hoping there will be a fringe benefit of hitting scum.

Since when has hoping to lynch scum been suspicious?


Using it to add flavour to your vote, more substance, rather than call a spade a spade. Let's lynch the modkill because it gives us info and stops wifom is valid enough without trying to make the vote sexier. Did it really need to be said they might be scum? Its like that extra justification to be less scrutinized when people look back. He was second on the vote too, so maybe he felt he needed that extra excuse.

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:08 PM

Seems a bit nitpicky to me. But we have precious little to go on.

Jalan or Thyrlan?

We need a lynch, so I think I will go with Thyrlan for now

Vote Thyrlan


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:20 PM

It is Day 2. 8 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 votes Jalan (Skintick, Okaros)
2 votes Thyrllan (Aranatha, Ruse)

Players not voted: (Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Thyrllan)
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:29 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 21 June 2018 - 01:20 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 8 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 votes Jalan (Skintick, Okaros)
2 votes Thyrllan (Aranatha, Ruse)

Players not voted: (Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Thyrllan)


Fuck this crept up on us!

Unless people are here, this is timing out.

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:31 PM

It is Day 2. 0 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 votes Jalan (Skintick, Okaros)
2 votes Thyrllan (Aranatha, Ruse)

Players not voted: (Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Thyrllan)

No one has been lynched. It is now night. Resolving now
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:43 PM

It is Night 2.

9 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan

Ay Estos is dead. He was Itwaes Nom and Kevin Malone. He was town
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Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:44 PM

It is Day 3. 36 Hours remaining

8 Players still alive: Aranatha, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan


5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: (Aranatha, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Ruse, Skintick, Thyrllan)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 June 2018 - 01:58 PM

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:54 PM

Well I have points down for now, i'll check back tomorrow to see what people are saying.

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 02:03 PM

View PostOkaros, on 19 June 2018 - 06:16 PM, said:

So, reading through, and this struck me

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 04:08 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 19 June 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

Vote FanderayIf we're potentially getting a non-posting modkill I'd rather know for sure who they were with a full CF.
I like this. It minimizes potential wcs damage to town with 2 losses instead of 3.Vote Fanderay
Will there be no CF with a modkill?I'm not cool with lynching someone before they post. Just not cricket.I have to leave, but I think I can get back before time out.



View PostOkaros, on 20 June 2018 - 09:35 AM, said:

Well Shin had plenty of time to come on and play, so I don't feel so bad about a "no post" lynch.


Directly contradicts himself. A bit suspicious that.

View PostOkaros, on 21 June 2018 - 09:43 AM, said:

It does look like there may be some deflection off Jalan and Thyrllan at this point so I'm going to leave a vote on Jalan for now.Vote Jalan



What deflection? The conversation was about Thyrlan and Aranatha, not Jalan at all. This seems like a way to just slip in a vote and feign participation.

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 02:13 PM

View PostRuse, on 21 June 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 19 June 2018 - 06:16 PM, said:

So, reading through, and this struck me

View PostThyrllan, on 19 June 2018 - 04:08 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 19 June 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

Vote FanderayIf we're potentially getting a non-posting modkill I'd rather know for sure who they were with a full CF.
I like this. It minimizes potential wcs damage to town with 2 losses instead of 3.Vote Fanderay
Will there be no CF with a modkill?I'm not cool with lynching someone before they post. Just not cricket.I have to leave, but I think I can get back before time out.



View PostOkaros, on 20 June 2018 - 09:35 AM, said:

Well Shin had plenty of time to come on and play, so I don't feel so bad about a "no post" lynch.


Directly contradicts himself. A bit suspicious that.

View PostOkaros, on 21 June 2018 - 09:43 AM, said:

It does look like there may be some deflection off Jalan and Thyrllan at this point so I'm going to leave a vote on Jalan for now.Vote Jalan



What deflection? The conversation was about Thyrlan and Aranatha, not Jalan at all. This seems like a way to just slip in a vote and feign participation.


From the guy who put up a derailment vote. Try cherry picking your quotes better.

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 02:41 PM

Wtf. I missed day 2? Let me get caught up.

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